Muhammad and Jesus Christ

[Sirach14]

Who do you chose to follow?

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[Karin]

Sirach14:

Who do you chose to follow?

thechristianexpositor.org/page108.html

Neither…I choose to follow GOD.

 

[RWBhbrws1]

the only way to follow God is to follow Jesus Christ( John 5:23, John 10:38) there are many more also

 

[timur]

Im a muslim but i love jesus pbuh and the last propht muhamed pbuh equaly ,but cristians not knowing what to do ,did what jews did.made their scriptures for them and as their own writing fell in in love in it.On the judgment day their hands will turn black for prescribing God things which doesnt belong to.sorry but you dont pray to God as you shoud becose it is easyer for you to ask a priest for forgivness. “Allah, there is no god save Him, The Living, The Eternal. Neither slumber nor sleep overtake Him. Unto Him belongs whatsoever is in the heavens and the earth. Who is he who intercedes with Him except by His permission? He knows that which is before them and that which is behind them, while they encompass nothing of His Knowledge except what He wills. His seat (kursi) contains the heavens and the earth, and He is never weary of preserving them. He is The Sublime, The Great.” (al-Baqarah 2/255)
The Creator must be of a different nature from the things created because if he is of the same nature as they are, he will be temporal and will therefore need a maker. It follows that nothing is like Him. If the maker is not temporal, then he must be eternal. But if he is eternal, he cannot be caused, and if nothing outside him causes him to continue to exist, which means that he must be self-sufficient. And if the does not depend on anything for the continuance of his own existence, then this existence can have no end. The Creator is therefore eternal and everlasting: “He is the First and the Last.”

 

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East:

The Creator is therefore eternal and everlasting: “He is the First and the Last.”

The first and the last: “I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord” (Revelation 1:8).

 

[timur]

“God has not taken to Himself any son, nor is there any god with Him: For then each god would have taken of that which he created and some of them would have risen up over others.” (23:91)
And Why, were there gods in earth and heaven other than God, they (heaven and earth) would surely go to ruin." (21:22)

This is Quran my lady. The Quran reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the worshippers of man-made objects, it asks:
“Do you worship what you have carved yourself?” (37:95)
“Or have you taken unto you others beside Him to be your protectors, even such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?” (13:16)

 

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“God has not taken to Himself any son, nor is there any god with Him: For then each god would have taken of that which he created and some of them would have risen up over others.” (23:91)
And Why, were there gods in earth and heaven other than God, they (heaven and earth) would surely go to ruin." (21:22)

This is Quran my lady. The Quran reminds us of the falsity of all alleged gods. To the worshippers of man-made objects, it asks:
“Do you worship what you have carved yourself?” (37:95)
“Or have you taken unto you others beside Him to be your protectors, even such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?” (13:16)

Only because the Quran say so? How do you know it is word of God not mohamit huh? any evidence?

 

[timur]

The Quran tries to promote this feeling of gratitude by repeating the attributes of God very frequently. We find most of these attributes mentioned together in the following verses of the Quran:

“He is God; there is no god but He, He is the Knower of the unseen and the visible; He is the All-Merciful, the All-Compassionate. He is God, there is no God but He. He is the King, the All-Holy, the All-Peace, the Guardian of Faith, the All-Preserver, the All-Mighty, the All-Compeller, the All-Sublime. Glory be to God, above that they associate! He is God the Creator, the Maker, the Shaper. To Him belong the Names Most Beautiful. All that is in the heavens and the earth magnifies Him; He is the All-Mighty, the All-Wise.” (59:22-24)
“There is no god but He, the Living, the Everlasting. Slumber seizes Him not, neither sleep; to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and the earth. Who is there that shall intercede with Him save by His leave? He knows what lies before them and what is after them, and they comprehend not anything of His knowledge save such as He wills. His throne comprises the heavens and earth; the preserving of them oppresses Him not; He is the All-High, the All-Glorious.” (2:255)

“People of the Book, go not beyond the bounds in your religion, and say not as to God but the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only the Messenger of God, and His Word that He committed to Mary, and a Spirit from Him. So believe in God and His Messengers, and say not, ‘Three.’ Refrain; better is it for you. God is only one God. Glory be to Him - (He is) above having a son.” (4:171
Is this evident proof ,does this look a word of a man who didnt know to read…a “simple” man who has a book which is the most read and most learnd and most memorised the book which is unchanged for 14 centuries .The quran is the last revealed book and islam is the last religon is there a religion of this scale ???no.

 

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timur:

Is this evident proof ,does this look a word of a man who didnt know to read…a “simple” man who has a book which is the most read and most learnd and most memorised the book which is unchanged for 14 centuries .The quran is the last revealed book and islam is the last religon is there a religion of this scale ???no.

prove me if your koran unchange for 14 centuries. prove me if your koran really preserved. prove me if mohamit illiterate. and prove me if your religion is the true and the last.

 

[timur]

The proof are the word of Quran which says:“Had We send down this Qur’an on to a mountain, verily you would have seen it humbled and rent asunder for fear of Allah.” (al-Hashr 59/21)
And He has said:

“When We substitute one Verse (Ayah) for another and Allah knows best what He reveals-they say: You are but a fabricator; But most of them know not. Say: The Trustworthy Spirit (i.e., Gabriel) has brought it (The Qur’an) from your Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as Guidance and Good Tidings for Muslims. We know well that they say: It is a man who teaches him; The language of him they falsely point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.” (an-Nahl 16/101-103)

 

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timur:

The proof are the word of Quran which says:“Had We send down this Qur’an on to a mountain, verily you would have seen it humbled and rent asunder for fear of Allah.” (al-Hashr 59/21)
And He has said:

“When We substitute one Verse (Ayah) for another and Allah knows best what He reveals-they say: You are but a fabricator; But most of them know not. Say: The Trustworthy Spirit (i.e., Gabriel) has brought it (The Qur’an) from your Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as Guidance and Good Tidings for Muslims. We know well that they say: It is a man who teaches him; The language of him they falsely point to is notably foreign, while this is Arabic, pure and clear.” (an-Nahl 16/101-103)

Errr… what about the abrogation?

 

[timur]

The answer to your question is given in the Holy Qur’an:

“None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?”
[Qur’an 2:106]

This verse indicates that none of the verses of the Qur’an are abrogated by God (Allah) but substituted with something better or similar. This means that certain verses of the Qur’an, that were revealed earlier were substituted by verses that were revealed later.
The famous examples of the so called “abrogation” are: “Produce a recital like the Qur’an” and “Gradual prohibition of intoxicants”. I can detail both and show you the wisdom behind it if you wish.

Suppose I say that I do not live in Dallas. Later I say that I do not live in Texas. Finally I say, I do not live in the US. This does not imply that these 3 statements contradict each other. Each statement gives more information than the previous statement. The third statement includes the information contained in the first two. Thus, only by saying that I do not live in the US, it is obvious, that I also do not live in Texas nor Dallas.
finaly quran was revealed to people who had no true knowlage of God and depending on the their situatin God plesed them with constantly giving them task as their spirit was becoming awere of Him He aknoleged His servent more information how to serve Him better.

 

[cute2904]

timur:

The answer to your question is given in the Holy Qur’an:
“None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten, but We substitute something better or similar: knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?”
[Qur’an 2:106]

How an eternal revelation of God could have been such time-bound revelation in it. It against the nature of Allah, all knowing, all wise, the creator, and sustainer of the universe, self existent one.