Muhammad rejected Christianity/Jesus

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From a quotation of Muhammad in an online article, that it is blasphemy indeed to call Allah Christ the Son of Mary, it would seem to me that Muhammad had been exposed to Christianity and rejected it.

Any thoughts on this?

This does NOT mean that I’m against dialogue with Muslims: I’m just conjecturing that Muhammad had directly rejected Christ.
 
From a quotation of Muhammad in an online article, that it is blasphemy indeed to call Allah Christ the Son of Mary, it would seem to me that Muhammad had been exposed to Christianity and rejected it.

Any thoughts on this?

This does NOT mean that I’m against dialogue with Muslims: I’m just conjecturing that Muhammad had directly rejected Christ.
He must have had some contact with Christianity given the monotheistic nature of Islam and the mention of Jesus as a Prophet.
 
From a quotation of Muhammad in an online article, that it is blasphemy indeed to call Allah Christ the Son of Mary, it would seem to me that Muhammad had been exposed to Christianity and rejected it.

Any thoughts on this?

This does NOT mean that I’m against dialogue with Muslims: I’m just conjecturing that Muhammad had directly rejected Christ.
I opened your link but the blog font is so tiny, even my eye glass I can’t read it.

Perhaps you can post some items from the article you wish to discuss.
 
It ia a historical fact that Nestorian Chrisians lived in Mecca and elsewhere in Saidi Arabia long before the birth of Muhammad. Indeed Christianity spread all the way to China.
 
I opened your link but the blog font is so tiny, even my eye glass I can’t read it.

Perhaps you can post some items from the article you wish to discuss.
Sure, here’s the quote I found: Some teachings are crystal clear in the Qur’an such as, “If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of thosewho have been lost,” (Sura 3:85) or the decree to pray three times daily (Sura 11:114), or, “In blasphemy indeed are those that say Allah is Christ the Son of Mary.”
Also, the remark earlier about Jesus being a prophet also evidences Muhammad rejecting
the Divinity of Jesus.
 
Also, the remark earlier about Jesus being a prophet also evidences Muhammad rejecting
the Divinity of Jesus.
We know Mohammad / Islam / Muslims rejects the Divinity of Jesus.

They deny His Crucifixion & His Resurrection.
 
Mohammad;s uncle was Christian, according to one story. Mohammad was supposedly close to this uncle and got a number of ideas from him.
 
OK. Maybe I’m bringing up a dead thread/subject, but I wasn’t aware that Muhammad actually rejected Jesus’ s Divinity personally, although I knew that Islam rejected Jesus’
Divinity on principle.

It makes it harder to dialogue with the Muslims about Christ and the Church when Muhammad himself rejected Jesus, even though he accepted him as a prophet, I guess.

I guess to say, “Jesus is God,” or “Jesus is Lord” is punishable by death in Islam.

Too bad.
 
It makes it harder to dialogue with the Muslims about Christ and the Church when Muhammad himself rejected Jesus, even though he accepted him as a prophet, I guess.
I think dialog has to include our differences, and so one of the things we dialog about has to be the divinity of Jesus. I think there’s plenty of reasons to talk to them about it and, when appropriate, to try to convince them of Jesus’ divinity.

An important consideration is that Mohammed was familiar with Nestorian Christianity, and so the presentation of Jesus’ divinity that he got was widely off the mark. The Nestorians had a wrong idea of the union between Christ’s divine and human natures, which would make it easy for a non-Christian like Mohammed to deny one or the other of them. Perhaps that helps put his “rejection” in a different light: he was rejecting the wrong thing.
 
Mohammad;s uncle was Christian, according to one story. Mohammad was supposedly close to this uncle and got a number of ideas from him.
wrong…by a mile :eek: His uncle abu Talib was a pagan and ,despite being Muhammad’s most loyal supporter, he rejected Islam because he was the head of a tribe and was worried about what other members of the tribe would say if he left the religion of his forefathers.

Actually at the age of nine, Muhammad went to Syria with his uncle and had interactions with Christians. One important contact was with the Nestorian monk Bahira in Bosra, modern Syria who foretold to the adolescent Muhammad his future prophetic career

It would also be interesting to note that this monk actually possessed some of the original gospels which talked about Muhammad. Though you lot may not agree we believe that references of Muhammad have been removed
 
Here’s a short summary of what I had posted in the Mohammad thread:

Here’s how I see things:

During Mohammads time, there were Christians & Jews living in Medina.

The Jews had their own scriptures, prophets, religion and practices

The Christians had their own scriptures, prophets, religion and practices

The pagans had their religion & practices, perhaps scriptures and prophets.

The native Arabs had nothing like this.

The Arabs had no prophets, no religion, no scripture to call their own

Great opportunity for Mohammad to create a prophet to represent the Arabs and create his own religious book.

Now, the Arabs were merchants, goat/animal herders, poets and perhaps other types of business existed.

But education was not on their list. Most of them could not read/write.

Mohammad disliked the Pagans very much. They worshiped way too many idols.

The Jews however worshiped one God

The Christians worshiped one God, but believed in The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit.

Although Mohammad was fond to learn about Jesus Christ, elevated him to a great prophet from stories he heard from the Christians, but could not stand the fact that He was the Son of God.

Why ~ because Mohammad believed that would be in believing in 2 Gods and that is what he was trying to avoid.

The book of Islam is not a book inspired or revealed by God.

Gabriel has never been sent by God to contradict God’s prior message(s)

Gabriel said to Mary in Luke 1:

31And, behold, you shall conceive in your womb, and bring forth a son, and shall call his name JESUS.

32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give to him the throne of his father David:

33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.

And in Luke 8: Demons cast into the pigs:

28When he saw Jesus, he cried out, and fell down before him, and with a loud voice said, What have I to do with you, Jesus, you Son of God most high? I beseech you, torment me not.

The Gabriel Islam speaks of is not God’s Archangel Gabriel.

Also, when you read the stories about the Biblical prophets, the majority of the stories are twisted and not found in the OT.

Mohammad got pieces of info from here & there and that is what he taught his Arab followers. Why question him. Mohammad was a clever man.

Everyone was amazed by him. Islam is born

What we don’t have today are the writings from the early scribes of Mohammad. The bones, parchment, stones, the skins in which parts of his sayings were written on.
 
Mohammad;s uncle was Christian, according to one story. Mohammad was supposedly close to this uncle and got a number of ideas from him.
wrong…by a mile :eek:

… snip
Did Muhammad learn from his Christian uncle-in-law?

Waraqah, who was the uncle of Muhammad’s wife Khadija, was Christian and he was with Muhammad all along for at least 15 years before he announced he was a prophet. So, Muhammad learned all about Christianity and used it to form Islam.

islamicanswer.org/wordpress/?p=124
 
It would also be interesting to note that this monk actually possessed some of the original gospels which talked about Muhammad. Though you lot may not agree we believe that references of Muhammad have been removed
The “original” Gospels were written about 500-600 years before Muhammad was born. And they did not prophecy anyone coming in the future specifically, except Jesus coming again
to collect the Believers.
 
The “original” Gospels were written about 500-600 years before Muhammad was born. And they did not prophecy anyone coming in the future specifically, except Jesus coming again
to collect the Believers.
I said you’d disagree so i’m not going to develop this

@jakasaki

islamicanswer.org/wordpress/?p=124
If that was the case then why did Waraqa tell Khadeeja and Muhammad, peace be upon them, that Muhammad was a true prophet and was THE prophet foretold in the Torah and the Gospel?
And if Muhammad (PBUH) learned from the Jews and the Christians then why did he change their teachings? He changed the Jewish teaching about Jesus being a heretic and changed the Christian teaching about Jesus being divine.
Muhammad (PBUH) was known, even to his enemies, to be “the trustworthy one”. Then why would he lie about where from he got the teachings of Islam? And would he start lying by lying against God? Muhammad (PBUH) and his followers spent 13 years in non-stop torment and harassment by the Meccan pagans, why would he hold on to a falsehood in such a situation?
What if we applied the same logic to Jesus, peace be upon him? We all know that Jesus lived among the Jews (in fact most Christians believe he was a Jew), spoke Hebrew fluently and was a recognized scholar of the Torah. Thus, applying your logic, Jesus must have learned all from the Jews and used it to form Christianity! God forbid.
The bottom line is this: The message of God is spelled out in the Quran. I invite you to read the Quran, if you haven’t done so already, then decide for yourself if it came from other than God.
 
We Christians know that there is no other Gospel than the one we’ve been preached, as it says in St. Paul’s writings. So, if Muhammad is preaching things which contradict the Gospel, his teachings must be false or contain error.

I say this not to argue with you, expounder, but to help you make a choice of faith.
You ask me to read the Quran. I ask you to read the Gospel, any one of the four or all of them if you wish. But, in the end, you will be making the choice to believe that Jesus is
the “I Am” that He says He is or not.
 
We Christians know that there is no other Gospel than the one we’ve been preached, as it says in St. Paul’s writings. So, if Muhammad is preaching things which contradict the Gospel, his teachings must be false or contain error.

I say this not to argue with you, expounder, but to help you make a choice of faith.
You ask me to read the Quran. I ask you to read the Gospel, any one of the four or all of them if you wish. But, in the end, you will be making the choice to believe that Jesus is
the “I Am” that He says He is or not.
Sorry, the link i posted asked you to read the Qur’an, not me 🤷
But it doesn’t mean i’m not reading or looking at the bible, because believe me i am
but a lot of things don’t make sense to me, which is worrying :ehh:
Then again there a lot of topics in the bible which i could relate to or agree with
 
Sorry, the link i posted asked you to read the Qur’an, not me 🤷
But it doesn’t mean i’m not reading or looking at the bible, because believe me i am
but a lot of things don’t make sense to me, which is worrying :ehh:
Then again there a lot of topics in the bible which i could relate to or agree with
It would probably help you a WHOLE LOT to get a Catechism of the Catholic Church.
It’s cheap and MUCH easier to read than the Bible. Use both the Bible and It to get
a good grounding.

Also, when they don’t make sense, use a Biblical Commentary, such as this online one:
catholic.org/bible/
 
It would probably help you a WHOLE LOT to get a Catechism of the Catholic Church.
It’s cheap and MUCH easier to read than the Bible. Use both the Bible and It to get
a good grounding.
ty for that.
I have quite a few other books which can said to be like Catechisms but it also includes the views of the other sects like Quakers, anglicans, methodists etc and i have other books which compare different religions
 
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