multicultured lands, the chrisianity's doom?

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I finished reading a book by Mark Steyn - “American Alone” and his main point is that Europe is in trouble due to demographics. Their birth rate is so low that it will not be able to sustain all the social programs in place. Therefore, in order to maintain them they are relying on the immigration of Muslims to those lands. You see evidence of it in France with the riots by “youths”. The media reference to youths should really be Muslim Youths. Instead of them assimilating into the cultures the are assimilating the native cultures. Canada is there also with their social programs. He goes on to state that these societies that are socialist leaves the population without the “will”. Which is why they (Europe) continue to sit back and watch while the U.S. has taken the offense against the Islamic Relgion. The Religion has no moderates because the religion itself is not moderate. It’s a good read and supports all of what we see today with Islam. There is outrage when it comes to cartoons but no outrage when it comes to lopping heads off for their cause. It’s hipocracy. We’re not there yet but you do see the potential is there for us if we lose our will.
 
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my land, norway, was a normal christian land, but now because of vast numbers of islamic outlanders the christianity have fallen greatly in many difrent ways, like lazyness rediscovered paganbelives (viking myth) to much erotic on internett children with bad language islamic threats (outside trough media) and extremely undisiplined youth on schools.

what happned? is god planing a new main religion? have he abandoned scandinavia? is islam really the main threat agains christianity and catholics alike? why wont the lord almighty save hes belivers by new miracles or a new messiah? (we could really need jesus today), what does it really takes to make the people visit the churches again?! its only almost old people visiting the church these days and when they go to heaven then what? will they maybe rebuild the “useless” churces into museums or something? just admitt it, the fait in europe is sinking fast and what will then happen to us when people start fearing death and only belives in imortallity trough science like improving their bodys all the time, will armaggeddon soon be upon us? ive heard it will be on 2029, cause of a meteor on mars size will collide with us, if that so then im pleased to NOT experience the slow rotting feeling inside me that the faith in the creater that we all owe our loyalty too will perish as nothing more than a fairytale in a book!
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Blaming this soley on Islam is exactly what earlier christians did blaming the Plague on the Jews.

If it is at all a factor, it is mineut at best. A better reason may be becaue many see the church as a monolithic entity that relies to heavy on unchanging deated practises.
It could also be societal factors that ppl simply have had a change in priorities.

Pick and choose w/e you like but keep in mind there isnt one solitary reason
 
Hey Nils,

Well for one thing if it makes you feel any better. Christians outnumber Muslims by almost 2 to 1 and Catholicism alone is larger than Islam and to my understanding is still growing.

I’m sympathetic to your concerns though about the state of the Church. In the West our prosperity I think has affected our devotion and we just see the reason to “waste” time praying when there is so much to do and experience around us.

However, keep in mind that the the Church is growing in other parts of the world and they are very devout. The African Church is growing rapidly and many believe that it will soon be larger than Islam on that continent. Also I heard yesterday that some believe that there are actually more Christians in China than in the US. Of course that would be almost impossible to to confirm but if it is true then that’s pretty amazing.

So my fears are not for the future of the Church as Our Lord does not accept defeat. I do however fear for our nations in the West as seem to have forgotten who feeds us.
 
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Blaming this soley on Islam is exactly what earlier christians did blaming the Plague on the Jews.

If it is at all a factor, it is mineut at best. A better reason may be becaue many see the church as a monolithic entity that relies to heavy on unchanging deated practises.
It could also be societal factors that ppl simply have had a change in priorities.

Pick and choose w/e you like but keep in mind there isnt one solitary reason
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Are you playing “devil’s” advocate? I see you list your “location” as “in your nose”??? 😃

Vickie
 
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