Multiple Marriage Ceremonies

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Catholic2003:
Is it known that the bishop is aware of the other ceremonies? It seems possible that the priest did not inform the bishop about the other ceremonies.
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The general rule followed by priests in my diocese is “It’s easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.” One CANNOT assume in this day and age that proper forms are being observed or that the bishop is aware of what his priests are doing.
 
Andreas Hofer:
The general rule followed by priests in my diocese is “It’s easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.” One CANNOT assume in this day and age that proper forms are being observed or that the bishop is aware of what his priests are doing.
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Nor can one assume that any given marriage will be valid, especially considering how many annulments there are… 😦

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Nor can one assume that any given marriage will be valid, especially considering how many annulments there are… 😦

Alan
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Um, the position of the Church is that all marriages are valid if they follow the proper form; it is only after proof of an impediment existing at the time of the ceremnoy that one id declared invalid.

And given the number of marriages, and the nuymber of divorces, and the fact that a goodly number of tribunal cases arise from the marriage of a non-Catholic to another non-Catholic individual with a subsequent divorce and a desire of one of those parties to marry a Catholic, the actual number of tribunal cases is not that high.

What is surprising is that there are not more cases taken to a tribunal. And what is sad is the number of people who get married a second time without an annulment and drop out of the Church, or continue going and ignore the need to rectify their situation in some manner.
 
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Um, the position of the Church is that all marriages are valid if they follow the proper form; it is only after proof of an impediment existing at the time of the ceremnoy that one id declared invalid.

And given the number of marriages, and the nuymber of divorces, and the fact that a goodly number of tribunal cases arise from the marriage of a non-Catholic to another non-Catholic individual with a subsequent divorce and a desire of one of those parties to marry a Catholic, the actual number of tribunal cases is not that high.

What is surprising is that there are not more cases taken to a tribunal. And what is sad is the number of people who get married a second time without an annulment and drop out of the Church, or continue going and ignore the need to rectify their situation in some manner.
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So, if they get married in the Catholic Church, and then go and get married in a Muslim Mosque, the marriage will still be valid, and the multiple ceremony will just be redundant…right?

What would be the consequences for breaking Canon law?
 
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Superstar905:
So, if they get married in the Catholic Church, and then go and get married in a Muslim Mosque, the marriage will still be valid, and the multiple ceremony will just be redundant…right?

What would be the consequences for breaking Canon law?
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I would seek more expert advice on the matter, but I’d say that as long as they follow proper form in their Catholic wedding and intend to do what the Church teaches (basically being aware of the commitment they’re making and being open to life) it would be valid. But I could imagine a more remote possibility that having the intent all along to disobey the Church with the other religious ceremony could have some effect - like I said, I don’t think it would, but could understand the line of reasoning that would make it do so.
 
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Superstar905:
So, if they get married in the Catholic Church, and then go and get married in a Muslim Mosque, the marriage will still be valid, and the multiple ceremony will just be redundant…right?

What would be the consequences for breaking Canon law?
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with many laws, not a whole lot in terms of the Church actually doing something.

It may well be that the effect would be similar to being re-baptized. If one is baptized a Catholic, and one subsequently is baptized again in another Christian denomination, that is objectively a sacrilege, and generally, a sacrilege is objectively a mortal sin.

I use the term “objectively” because from the appearance, she may not know enough to qualify for commiting a mortal sin subjectively.

Yes, the ceremony would be redundant. And yes, the marriage would be valid on its face. I do, however, wonder about her intent…
 
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