Multiverse or some other physical reality outside the Universe: Why Not?

[Lucretius]

It seems that that is one option. But I just can’t get my head around it. It doesn’t seem possible. But then the more we learn, the less sense it makes to those who can’t change the clock on the microwave without help.

To be clear, a truly infinite universe means that anything that is not impossible (no matter how obscure) will happen, must happen and must happen, weirdly, an infinite number of times. An infinite universe goes on forever, not only generating uncountable variations, but also requiring each of the uncountable variations to occur an infinite number of times. That’s the strange nature of a true infinity. - See more at: space.com/31465-is-our-universe-just-one-of-many-in-a-multiverse.html#sthash.T2yIoRxz.dpuf

I agree that infinity would make universes where every real possibility occurs, but what I’m distinguishing between is real possibility and imagined possibility. Just because we imagine something is possible, doesn’t mean it is really possible (This is actually the basic mistake of idealism).

Christi pax,

Lucretius

 

[yppop]

The newly discovered gravity waves appear to confirm the the universe went through an inflationary period. If that is true, then…

“It’s hard to build models of inflation that don’t lead to a multiverse,” Alan Guth, an MIT theoretical physicist unaffiliated with the new study, said during a news conference Monday. “It’s not impossible, so I think there’s still certainly research that needs to be done. But most models of inflation do lead to a multiverse, and evidence for inflation will be pushing us in the direction of taking [the idea of a] multiverse seriously.” - See more at: space.com/25100-multiverse-cosmic-inflation-gravitational-waves.html#sthash.wIfLVbke.dpuf

Bradski
I must have missed something. I thought that this (there were a couple other discoveries which couldn’t be duplicated) discovery of the gravity wave, (that’s singular because as I understand there was a single beep), confirmed Einstein’s general relativity not Inflation. Can you cite the confirmation of inflation or describe the connection between general relativity and inflation?
Thanks
Yppop

 

[LethalMouse]

True. But I think there’s a reaction against it in some people because it completely dismantles the fine-tuning argument.

If there are an infinity of universes (which is what most multiverse models propose), then it becomes a certainty that we’d be in one of them. That we are nothing special. That, in fact, there are countless universes with countless worlds with countless civilisations with belief systems entirely different to anything we have but all equally valid. Or invalid as the case may be.

Kinda hard to get one’s head around and all supposition in any case. Nice to think about late at night around the camp fire sharing a bottle of something but nothing over which to lose any sleep.

Well,if God created all of this it is logical we would find similair religions.

It is also logical that the other creations might have different paths… maybe not fall from their eden? Maybe not need “Jews” like if they fell from eden, they stopped defying God at that point and didnt need a chosen people. And all the way up to not needing Jesus to come and die. Maybe they were all like “Jesus! Great ideas! We are listening now”

So they would perhaps not really need to be exactly Catholic. Or even Jewish… they may have never needed something like Mosaic Law…

It is logical that God would not go into details on aliens and alternate universes to humans until or unless it was relevant and comprehensible.

It is also logical that we are still just as important to God as if we were sole creation… he is infinite so he could put all sentient beings as said importance. I think it is substantial human arrogance to need to be one and only…and to assume God literally loves his angels less than us…

I think people miss our presented religion in its current form from God was based on our failure to live up to His original ideal for us. Like a parent who keeps giving a child an alternate way to not get in trouble:

Go to college…errrr okay then join the military…okay get a job… okay not that job so get this one…now go to community college at night…ughhhh okay, I got you an interview… omg you are killing me kid…

Angels as we have seen them could be “saints” from other species from other Earths.

Lets say a species succeeded at the garden of eden before us and Satan could have been one of the first of creation species wise. Etc… he could have eaten from the second tree? Ohh so much we dont know.