Music: "I, myself, am the bread of life"?

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It’s an abomination to sing that as Christ transforms us through Eucharist, we transform the world doing his work as a consequence?

I sure hope not - because that’s actually what the song is saying.
There is/was no need to rephrase it, Christ is the Bread of Life not us, it’s no wonder people leave the Catholic Church.

All those good-bodys mincing the words when the other words did just fine, it’s no wonder the Orthodox have a field day with us, and I can’t say sometimes I would blame them.
 
It’s an abomination to sing that as Christ transforms us through Eucharist, we transform the world doing his work as a consequence?

I sure hope not - because that’s actually what the song is saying.
Like I said earlier, why don’t we just stop beating around the bush and sing out that we are God. After all, we seek to do his will in the world. I guarantee that some people would defend that one too.

Are we the Bread of Life? Why or why not?

Are we the Lamb of God? Why or why not?

Are we the way, the truth and the life? Why or why not?

Are we the Alpha and the Omega? Why or why not?

Are we I am who am? Why or why not?
 
It helps if you stay with the hymn I was refering to, “I Am The Bread of Life,” not I Myself Am The Bread of Life.

Jim

This hymn is the topic of this thread. But if the “I Am The Bread of Life” hymn fits the shoe — let it wear it.

REFRAIN:
I myself am the bread of life.
You and I are the bread of life
Taken and blessed, broken and shared by Christ,
that the world might live

VERSE 1:
This bread is spirit,
gift of the Maker’s love,
and we who share it
know that we can be one:
A Living sign of God in Christ.

VERSE 2:
Here is God’s kingdom,
given to us as food.
This is our body, this is our blood:
A living sign of God in Christ.

VERSE 3:
Lives broken open,
stories shared aloud,
become a banquet,
A shelter for the world:
A living sign of God in Christ
 
Like I said earlier, why don’t we just stop beating around the bush and sing out that we are God. After all, we seek to do his will in the world. I guarantee that some people would defend that one too.

Are we the Bread of Life? Why or why not?

Are we the Lamb of God? Why or why not?

Are we the way, the truth and the life? Why or why not?

Are we the Alpha and the Omega? Why or why not?

Are we I am who am? Why or why not?
If you can’t understand the difference - and what’s being said in the song in question - then there is nothing else I can say.

I think back to another thread where someone said “Why is it that ministers feel the need to treat the laity as stupid and reinforce things - preferably using a microphone?”

This thread is why.
 
All those good-bodys mincing the words when the other words did just fine, it’s no wonder the Orthodox have a field day with us, and I can’t say sometimes I would blame them.
I totally agree! This hymn is just the tip of the iceberg, of course. An example - just this week I sent an email to my own pastor asking him why it is that we chose to sing the famous Shaker hymn “The Dance” at last Sunday’s liturgy. Of course, it’s in our parish purchased GIA hymn book printed with the “…approval of the Committee on the Liturgy, USCCB…” - with whatever “authority” it is that that subgroup is supposed to wield. (Some of you know this tune with other similar lyrics as “The Lord of the Dance”).
I pointed out to my pastor that it was the Shakers who recognized that the second coming of “the Christ” has already happened - in the form of their “Mother Ann” 200 years ago. (Jesus had only been the “masculine” coming of “the Christ”, of course). So, of course, my question to him was exactly why St. Mary’s Catholic Church sang their song at last Sunday’s 9:00 liturgy. Awaiting his response.
September 14 can’t come soon enough! (Of course, we’ve yet to see what the American Bishops with that as well).
 
If you can’t understand the difference - and what’s being said in the song in question - then there is nothing else I can say.

I think back to another thread where someone said “Why is it that ministers feel the need to treat the laity as stupid and reinforce things - preferably using a microphone?”

This thread is why.
No, I can’t understand the difference. Therefore, please answer my questions which I will post again:

Are we the Bread of Life? Why or why not?

Are we the Lamb of God? Why or why not?

Are we the way, the truth and the life? Why or why not?

Are we the Alpha and the Omega? Why or why not?

Are we I am who am? Why or why not?

It should not take any Catholic more than 30 seconds to answer all of these questions.
 
Correction to my post #85. The Shaker song is “Simple Gifts” - not The Dance as I stated.
 
VociMike

Les see if I can help! 🙂
Are we the Bread of Life? Why or why not?
Are we the Lamb of God? Why or why not?
Are we the way, the truth and the life? Why or why not?
Are we the Alpha and the Omega? Why or why not?
Are we I am who am? Why or why not?
As members of Christ Body, yes to the above.

Do you have a problem with the hymn which has the words, “Christ Has No Body Now But Yours?”
It should not take any Catholic more than 30 seconds to answer all of these questions.
Took me a little longer, but it had more to do with navigation the text to make it readable. 🙂

Hope this helps!

Jim
 
VociMike

Les see if I can help! 🙂

As members of Christ Body, yes to the above.
Well at least you have the courage of your (incorrect) convictions.
Do you have a problem with the hymn which has the words, “Christ Has No Body Now But Yours?”
Yes, that is a total denial of the Incarnation and thus heretical.
Took me a little longer, but it had more to do with navigation the text to make it readable. 🙂
Hope this helps!
🙂
 
VociMike
Yes, that is a total denial of the Incarnation and thus heretical.
Then contact the Vatican and tell them to remove St. Teresa of Avila’s doctorate and declare her a heretic. :rolleyes:

Its from her prayer.
"Christ has no body now but yours
No hands, no feet on earth but yours
Yours are the eyes through which He looks compassion on this world Christ has no body now on earth but yours.”
Jim
 
VociMike

Then contact the Vatican and tell them to remove St. Teresa of Avila’s doctorate and declare her a heretic. :rolleyes:

Its from her prayer.

Jim
“No body now on earth.” That changes everything. She doesn’t deny that His glorified body is in heaven.
 
“No body now on earth.” That changes everything. She doesn’t deny that His glorified body is in heaven.
Neither does the song, but in fact, even though I have not heard the song, nor am I familiar with its origins, it seems from what I’ve read of the words, its the same theology that St. Teresa based her prayer on.

Jim
 
Neither does the song, but in fact, even though I have not heard the song, nor am I familiar with its origins, it seems from what I’ve read of the words, its the same theology that St. Teresa based her prayer on.

Jim
You didn’t ask me about a song or a theology. You asked me about this statement: “Christ Has No Body Now But Yours”. And I told you it is a denial of the Incarnation and thus heretical.
 
You didn’t ask me about a song or a theology. You asked me about this statement: “Christ Has No Body Now But Yours”. And I told you it is a denial of the Incarnation and thus heretical.
The words come from the prayer which are in the song which is based on the theology.

You said they are heretical.

It doesn’t matter whether the words are spoken or sung, they are either theologically sound or they’re not.

They of course are not heretical.

Jim
 
I understand that the intent of this song is to underscore the fact that we, as Church, are the Body of Christ, but to imply (as the words to this song seemingly do) that Christ has no body (indicating that the resurrected body of Christ is not a real body), and that Christ’s immortal resurrected body compares to our mortal physical bodies is a bit much.
 
I understand that the intent of this song is to underscore the fact that we, as Church, are the Body of Christ, but to imply (as the words to this song seemingly do) that Christ has no body (indicating that the resurrected body of Christ is not a real body), and that Christ’s immortal resurrected body compares to our mortal physical bodies is a bit much.
Not to mention the little matter of Christ’s body which is present at each and every Mass.
 
The words come from the prayer which are in the song which is based on the theology.

You said they are heretical.

It doesn’t matter whether the words are spoken or sung, they are either theologically sound or they’re not.

They of course are not heretical.
The statement “Christ has no body but yours” is most certainly incorrect (theologically unsound in the extreme) and heretical. I am astonished beyond belief that a Christian would argue otherwise.
 
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