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Okay, since the other song list forum was closed, I thought of starting a new one, because I really like posting there.

By the way, please keep any criticism at a low-level.
 
I have finally finished choosing the music for my cousin’s wedding (which will take place on Friday evening). These are the readings that I chose:

Song of Songs
Revelation
St. John’s Gospel Account of the Wedding at Cana

This is the music:

Prelude: Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence (instrumental)

Entrance Processional: Jesu, Jesu Joy of Man’s Desring

Psalm: Spanish - Dichoso el que teme al Senor y sigue sus caminos. (Manuel Garcia) Groom’s family does not understand English.

Alleuia setting from the Installation Mass for Pope Benedict XVI

Offertory: Panis Angelicus

Sanctus, Memorial and Great Amen: A Community Mass Setting by Richard Proulx (with When we eat this bread… Memorial Acclamation option)

Agnus Dei: Chant

Communion: Donde Hay Caridad (J. Madrugas)

Presentation of bouquet to BVM: Ave Maria

Recessonal: Ode to Joy

I have also been asked to assist in the planning of someone else’s wedding. As his wedding is in December, I will be choosing Advent music for a good part.

The best advice that I can give to anyone involved in selecting music for the Mass, whether it’s Sunday or for some sacramental liturgy, is to not follow what the publishers suggest. Often, they will push their product as opposed to the Church’s rich repository of Sacred Music. A lot of the times, the songs are feel-good ditties that have no depth, no richness, no sacredness, no majesty, no beauty, no transcendence and no dignity. You can never go wrong tapping into truly sacred music.

Another thing to consider is using the Church’s authoritative documents (those promulgated by the Holy See) as your guide when selecting what you will use for the liturgy. The writings of Pope Benedict XVI and, even Pope John Paul II, are effective tools in helping you make wise choices in selecting music.

Finally, the older, more venerable hymns are neither scary nor dated. They are timeless and do not sound like some 1960s-70s hippy folk pieces, the sappy 1980s songs or the rock anthems currently pushed by Time-Life’s Protestant Praise and Worship collections. They are also very easy to sing and easy enough to remember.

This process does not come via osmosis. I have had a lot of hard knocks along the way, learning some painful lessons in my early years. But, we learn by reading, by studying and by doing.
 
That thread was interesting but to make this thread a little more interesting, could you identify the songs that probably will be scrapped after the new prayers are installed in the OF? That would be very helpful.
 
That thread was interesting but to make this thread a little more interesting, could you identify the songs that probably will be scrapped after the new prayers are installed in the OF? That would be very helpful.
Rather than violate the congeniality of this thread, let me share some insight that I gained this weekend.

On Friday, I begrudgingly contacted OCP to secure the licensing rights to the Spanish psalm and hymn for my cousin’s wedding. During the ordering process, I mentioned to the CS representative that there were some serious issues of licitness with eight of OCP’s versions of the Spanish translation of the Gloria. After my purchases, she transferred my call to one of the editors of their song books.

I told the editor that there were some grave problems and that these paraticular versions violated both Liturgiam Authenticam and Redemptionis Sacramentum. He was not at all receptive to my bringing up this particular problem and he grew rather defensive. He told me that he reads and teaches the subject of music in the Mass. I told him that, with all due respect, he needed to re-read the authoritative documents of the Church since his publishing house seems to routinely ignore them, especially in this case. He then told me that the USCCB approves what OCP does. I told him that I would contact them to ascertain for myself, something else that rather bothered him.

After we hung up, I called the USCCB. After getting the customary runaround from the staff secretary, I was able to finally speak to the Secretary to the Bishops’ Committee on Liturgy. The priest told me that he is pretty much a two-man operation and that it is hard for them to thoroughly look at everything that comes their way, especially if it is in a language other than English. At least that is the impression he gave me. I told him that I understdood. Nonetheless, he thanked me for bringing this matter to his attention and his office told me to reduce my remarks to writing so that they can further research the matter. I also wrote to Bishop Seratelli, the chair of the BCW.

Thus, if the USCCB cannot be expected to review just about anything that crosses its threshhold, I suspect that it is the same for the bishops. Just because a song book happens to be in use at a particular parish, that does not necessarily mean that the bishop has seen it. Most of the time (if not all of the time), the bishop will entrust his diocesan liturgical commission to go over everything. I know, I spent three years doing that, and solo, serving on the committee, going through stuff and planning liturgies for the Cathedral and another parish. The bishop, at least mine, will take a hands-off approach and let someone else go through the motions.

That is why I cannot stress how important it is for anyone engaged in planning liturgies to make himself familiar with the authortative documents of the Holy See on the Mass and Sacred Music. Often, even the pastors will take a similar approach and leave everything to the director of music, the choir director, the cantor and the musicians. For lack of time or effort, these folks will simply use whatever the publisher mandates (I know, I have seen this ad nauseum in my present parish).

All of this reminds me of the line that Robin Hood (Errol Flynn) spoke to King Richard the Lionheart when he found the king (paraphrase, but, it’s close enough): “You go off and you fight in crusades and leave the defense of England to rogues and thieves like me.” That is the same concept. Granted, we are not rogues and thieves, but, if the lot falls to us, then we are just as obliged to educate ourselves on what the Church requires.
 
I forgot to mention something very important. Archbishop Burke, while he was still Metropolitan of St. Louis, did something very astounding and forward-thinking. He instituted an Office of Sacred Music for his archdiocese and placed a very talented and able composesr, Fr. Sam Weber, as its head. Having met Fr. Weber and heard some of his settings for the propers, I was most impressed. Would that every diocese had this kind of a resource. I hope that St. Louis is making good use of him.
 
Evensong for All Saints’ Day:

Praise Ye the Lord, William Billings
Preces and Responses, Henry Lowe
Psalm setting by Ivor Algernon Jenkins
Magnificat & Nunc Dimittis, George Dyson
Hymn: Christ Mighty Savior, Innisfree Farm tune
Anthems:
Sanctus from the Durufle Requiem
Sing Me To Heaven, Gawthrop
My Soul There Is a Country, C. Hubert H. Parry
Te Deum, Collegium Regale, Herbert Howells
And I Saw a New Heaven, Edgar Bainton
Sanctus from the Rutter Requiem

Two more hymns lost to me, since I did not bring home a program, and my brain was fried by the time we finished all that. It was lovely.

Betsy
 
This is what I planned for the upcoming Sunday:

Sunday, November 8th, 2009 - 32nd Sunday in Ordinary Time - Year B

Processional Hymn:
#220 Come, Ye Thankful People, Come
Gloria: Melodic Gloria
Responorial Psalm: Respond and Acclaim page 148 “Praise the Lord, my soul!”
Gospel Acclamation: page 149 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.”
Preparation of the Gifts: #425 Christians Let Us Love One Another
Holy, Holy, Holy: Heritage Mass
Memorial Acclamation: Acclamation A - Heritage Mass
Great Amen: Heritage Mass
Communion Hymn: #619 Blest Are They
Recessional Hymn: #409 Church of God, Elect and Glorious
 
The wedding music has changed. My parochial vicar called and nixed my choice for cantor, so, I had to find a back-up in a hurry.

The only things that have changed are the offertory and communion. The new cantor does not know Panis Angelicus, so I am moving Donde Hay Caridad to the offertory and am putting in I Received the Living God for Communion.

My aunt wanted to have a music teacher sing at the Mass; however, I told her that this is more than merely singing the Ave Maria. Whoever cantors a wedding Mass needs to know the parts of the Mass as these are more important than the Ave Maria. While the Ave Maria is beautiful, we need to focus on the parts of the Mass in the first degree. My aunt finally understood. She was not even sure if the music teacher even knew the parts of the Mass, let alone the psalm. Luckily, I have worked with this cantor before and she is in synch with the organist.
 
I’m not a music leader or even in the choir…but I just love the song called “Sacred Silence”…it is so beautiful it makes me teary eyed.
 
The wedding music has changed. My parochial vicar called and nixed my choice for cantor, so, I had to find a back-up in a hurry.

The only things that have changed are the offertory and communion. The new cantor does not know Panis Angelicus, so I am moving Donde Hay Caridad to the offertory and am putting in I Received the Living God for Communion.

My aunt wanted to have a music teacher sing at the Mass; however, I told her that this is more than merely singing the Ave Maria. Whoever cantors a wedding Mass needs to know the parts of the Mass as these are more important than the Ave Maria. While the Ave Maria is beautiful, we need to focus on the parts of the Mass in the first degree. My aunt finally understood. She was not even sure if the music teacher even knew the parts of the Mass, let alone the psalm. Luckily, I have worked with this cantor before and she is in synch with the organist.
It’s a shame the new cantor didn’t know the “Panis Angelicus” and that it’s too close to the wedding for her to learn it. BUT I love “I Received the Living God”.

Why did your parochial vicar nix your original choice for cantor?
 
Evensong for All Saints’ Day:

Praise Ye the Lord, William Billings
Preces and Responses, Henry Lowe
Psalm setting by Ivor Algernon Jenkins
Magnificat & Nunc Dimittis, George Dyson
Hymn: Christ Mighty Savior, Innisfree Farm tune
Anthems:
Sanctus from the Durufle Requiem
Sing Me To Heaven, Gawthrop
My Soul There Is a Country, C. Hubert H. Parry
Te Deum, Collegium Regale, Herbert Howells
And I Saw a New Heaven, Edgar Bainton
Sanctus from the Rutter Requiem

Two more hymns lost to me, since I did not bring home a program, and my brain was fried by the time we finished all that. It was lovely.

Betsy
This sounds beautiful!!!
 
Evensong for All Saints’ Day:

Praise Ye the Lord, William Billings
Preces and Responses, Henry Lowe
Psalm setting by Ivor Algernon Jenkins
Magnificat & Nunc Dimittis, George Dyson
Hymn: Christ Mighty Savior, Innisfree Farm tune
Anthems:
Sanctus from the Durufle Requiem
Sing Me To Heaven, Gawthrop
My Soul There Is a Country, C. Hubert H. Parry
Te Deum, Collegium Regale, Herbert Howells
And I Saw a New Heaven, Edgar Bainton
Sanctus from the Rutter Requiem

Two more hymns lost to me, since I did not bring home a program, and my brain was fried by the time we finished all that. It was lovely.

Betsy
Hi Betsy!
It’s good to hear from you again. That is one elegant choir you are blessed with.

Here’s my pics:
Entrance: Lead me, Lord (oldie but a goodie)
Response: Happy the poor in spirit from Gather #34
Offertory: Your mercy like rain (one of our favorite Cooney tunes)
Communion: Panis Angelicus Holy and living bread. Beautiful adaptation by Owen Alstott. Here’s a link to the sheet music cdn.ocp.org/shared/pdf/preview/22391z4.pdf
and Come to the feast
closing: Sing of the Lord’s goodness

Peace to all,
Hosea
 
It’s a shame the new cantor didn’t know the “Panis Angelicus” and that it’s too close to the wedding for her to learn it. BUT I love “I Received the Living God”.

Why did your parochial vicar nix your original choice for cantor?
He did not think that she could sing, even though she has cantored at several weddings (just a bit rusty). The upshot is that we have worked together before and she knows my parochial vicar from his days at the Cathedral. Her learning curve (at least for most of the pieces) is short. It’s just the Panis Angelicus that she can’t do. 😦

The organist was a little miffed that I chose Ode to Joy as the recessional, but, I told him that we were going to have a liturgically correct wedding. I also told him no double offertory songs (he has a nasty habit of doing that). He also needs to play something while my PV is incensing the gifts and the couple. My only fear is that he will play something that sounds like the theme from Gunsmoke. I am calling him tonight.
 
Hi Betsy!
It’s good to hear from you again. That is one elegant choir you are blessed with.

Here’s my pics:
Entrance: Lead me, Lord (oldie but a goodie)
Response: Happy the poor in spirit from Gather #34
Offertory: Your mercy like rain (one of our favorite Cooney tunes)
Communion: Panis Angelicus Holy and living bread. Beautiful adaptation by Owen Alstott. Here’s a link to the sheet music cdn.ocp.org/shared/pdf/preview/22391z4.pdf
and Come to the feast
closing: Sing of the Lord’s goodness

Peace to all,
Hosea
HOSEA! I am so happy you’re posting. I thought you weren’t going to anymore.

I love “Panis Angelicus” and “Sing of the Lord’s Goodness.” Nice picks!
 
HOSEA! I am so happy you’re posting. I thought you weren’t going to anymore.

I love “Panis Angelicus” and “Sing of the Lord’s Goodness.” Nice picks!
Thank you.
Just another opportunity to show grace.

Don’t cha just love our ministry?!
I really need to revisit the Heritage Mass. I see it in many lists and it seems to get lots of praise.
peace,
H
 
So far all I have decided on is All That We Have for the offertory. I will have to get it together tonight. I have three Masses this weekend.
 
So far all I have decided on is All That We Have for the offertory. I will have to get it together tonight. I have three Masses this weekend.
How about:

Where Temple Offerings are Made (sung to the tune of Let Saints on Earth in Concert Sing)
God is My Great Desire
O Jesus Joy of Loving Hearts (Communion)
I Received the Living God (Communion option)
Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence (Communion option)

These are found in the older version of the GIA Worship III book.
 
How about:

Where Temple Offerings are Made (sung to the tune of Let Saints on Earth in Concert Sing)
God is My Great Desire
O Jesus Joy of Loving Hearts (Communion)
I Received the Living God (Communion option)
Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silence (Communion option)

These are found in the older version of the GIA Worship III book.
I only know the last one. I do not introduce more than a handful of new songs every year. My next one for this occasion will be something that I think that is missing for such occasions, but I may have to write one. Something to do with Pharisees, vipers and dirty dishes. I think I will call it “Woe.” 😃
 
I only know the last one. I do not introduce more than a handful of new songs every year. My next one for this occasion will be something that I think that is missing for such occasions, but I may have to write one. Something to do with Pharisees, vipers and dirty dishes. I think I will call it “Woe.” 😃
These are the suggestions my planning magazine had:

Processional Hymn:

All Are Welcome
Come, Ye Thankful People, Come
Gather the People
Our God Is Here
Ven al Banquete/Come to the Feast
Table of Plenty
Praise to the Lord, the Almighty
Praise My Soul, The King of Heaven
Lift Up Your Hearts

Communion Hymn:

Blest Are They
Shepherd Me, O God
In the Breaking of the Bread
Christ, Be Our Light
God’s Love Is Everlasting
The Cry of the Poor
Be Not Afraid/No Te Mas
Bread for the World
That There May Be Bread
Whatsoever You Do

Recessional Hymn:

We Ever Will Praise You
Church of God, Elect and Glorious
We Are the Light of the World
Lead Me, Lord
Sing of the Lord’s Goodness
In the Day of the Lord
We Are Called
God of the Hungry
The Charity of Christ
Beatitudes

A lot of this is the OCP drek, as you can see I picked mostly traditional stuff as you can see when I posted what I was planning for this Sunday.

Some Traditional suggestions:

Holy God, We Praise Thy Name
Now Thank We All Our God
The Church’s One Foundation
How Firm A Foundation
All Praise and Glad Thanksgiving
 
This is what they did at my parish today:

Prelude: “Recit de Nazard” by Louis-Nicolas Clerambault

Entrance Antiphon: “Intret oratio mea” set to Festal Song melody (sung in English)

Kyrie & Gloria: “Missa Aeterna Christi Munera” by Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina

Psalm 146: “Praise the Lord, my soul” setting by Michel Guimont

Offertory: Motet - “Keep Me Faithfully” by G.F. Handel

Sanctus: chant from Mass XVIII

Memorial Acclamation: in English from the Sacramentary

Amen: chant from Mass XI

Agnus Dei: “Missa Aeterna Christi Munera” by G.P. Palestrina

Communion Antiphon: Psalm 23 setting by Joseph Gelineau

Communion Motet: “Loving Shepherd of Thy Sheep” by John Rutter

Recessional Hymn: “God, Whose Giving Knows No Ending” set to Ode to Joy melody

Postlude: “Caprice sur les grands Jeux” by L.N. Clerambault
 
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