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[benedictgal]

May 8/9, 2010

Gathering: Cone Holy Ghost
Psalm: Psalm 66: Let All The Earth
Preparation: I Want To Walk As A Child of The Light
Communion: Take And Eat
Closing: City Of God

My assoc. pastor (who will be the celebrant this weekend) likes to do something for mothers, so he has all the men come up and sing “You Are So Beautiful” by Joe Cocker after the Post-communion prayer.

Oh, I forgot to mention April 17 I had the first Mass with the Youth Choir. They did great The next Mass for them will be combined with the Chancel Choir at the graduation Mass in June.

Secular music shold not be used within the context of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is a big no-no. He can do a blessing for the mothers, though, and, after Mass, give each mother a carnation or some other gift from the parish. But, the secular music is not allowed.

Also, why are you doing Come Holy Ghost so early? We have not even reached the Ascension yet. You could still use Easter hymns like Alleluia, the Strife is O’er, Now the Green Blade Rises, or At the Lamb’s High Feast.

 

[CatholicZ09]

Also, why are you doing Come Holy Ghost so early? We have not even reached the Ascension yet. You could still use Easter hymns like Alleluia, the Strife is O’er, Now the Green Blade Rises, or At the Lamb’s High Feast.

This is something I’ve asked myself a lot. The past few years the OCP planner has suggested Pentecost hymns within the last few weeks of Easter. I don’t get it. Why can’t they just wait until Pentecost? It’s still Easter.

 

[CatholicZ09]

I have an idea of why “Come, Holy Ghost” would be used next weekend.

Here’s the Gospel for Sunday, May 9:

Jesus said to his disciples: "Whoever loves me will keep my word, and my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our dwelling with him. Whoever does not love me does not keep my words; yet the word you hear is not mine but that of the Father who sent me.
"I have told you this while I am with you. The Advocate, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you everything and remind you of all that I told you. Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. Not as the world gives do I give it to you. Do not let you hearts be troubled or afraid. You heard me tell you, ‘I am going away and I will come back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father; for the Father is greater than I. And now I have told you this before it happens, that when it happens you may believe.

 

[benedictgal]

This is something I’ve asked myself a lot. The past few years the OCP planner has suggested Pentecost hymns within the last few weeks of Easter. I don’t get it. Why can’t they just wait until Pentecost? It’s still Easter.

This is the problem when publishing houses think that they can dictate to parishes what should and should not be sung especially when they have no real authority. I just wish that parishes, including my own, could break free from OCP and start thinking for themselves. OCP does not have any ecclesial authority whatsoever to dictate just what should be sung when.

 

[benedictgal]

I have an idea of why “Come, Holy Ghost” would be used next weekend.

Here’s the Gospel for Sunday, May 9:

Yes, but, it is still too soon. We need to respect the seasons. Inasmuch as Pentecost concludes the Easter Season, we are not there yet. OCP really stretches things quite a bit.

 

[CatholicZ09]

Yes, but, it is still too soon. We need to respect the seasons. Inasmuch as Pentecost concludes the Easter Season, we are not there yet. OCP really stretches things quite a bit.

I agree. Easter hymns should be used for Easter and Pentecost hymns should be used for Pentecost.

I just looked through the planner and was shocked to see so many Pentecost hymns suggested for the Seventh Sunday of Easter. Are they confused?

 

[benedictgal]

I agree. Easter hymns should be used for Easter and Pentecost hymns should be used for Pentecost.

I just looked through the planner and was shocked to see so many Pentecost hymns suggested for the Seventh Sunday of Easter. Are they confused?

No. They are merely trying to promote their own stuff. At least the Worship III (older version) from GIA was not as problematic and, it preserved all of the verses of Alleluia, Sing to Jesus.

 

[pianomany2k]

I used NPM Planner

 

[benedictgal]

I used NPM Planner

Unfortunately, that is just as problematic. I think at some point, we need to wean from planners offered by publishing houses and special interests groups and simply go with the liturgical season and the readings. A lot of times, the NPM stuff and the OCP stuff are interchangeable. Each of them has an agenda, and, as I have experienced it, it’s not necessarily a good one.

 

[agp2176]

I rely on a combination of things. First is that I review the readings and get ideas there. I check my copy of AIM from WLP/ J S Paluch. Finally I check out the website for a parish that kindly has it choices posted on line. Taking all those suggestions in hand, I make my choices on what I know that the congregation will join in with. We are a simple parish, and as such, I keep it simple and traditional.

As needed and available, I will also introduce the Croatian language version of hymns that people will know in English (Amazing Grace, Hail Holy Queen, Lord When Came to the Seashore, Holy God We Praise They Name, etc). This is good for continuity of ethnic traditions amongst the younger members of the Parish. The exception here being the singing of a Croatian language Marian hymn called ‘Lijepa si Lijepa’ which loosely means ‘Beautiful Lady’. More often than not everyone knew this one as they grew up learning it although it has no English equivalent.

At one time, my choices were dictated by a ‘professional musician’ from the other parish administered by our pastoral administrator. This man fancied himself to our pastoral administrator as music director. Half the time no one knew the hymns he chose, as he had no insight into the people of the parish ofr the ethnic traditions. The one time I attended a Mass that he cantored at it was obvious that it was Mass was his “stage”. . I am so happy that he is gone, and with him the deer in the headlights yawning and thumbing of Rosaries by the assembly during the hymns.

God bless

Tony

 

[agp2176]

My assoc. pastor (who will be the celebrant this weekend) likes to do something for mothers, so he has all the men come up and sing “You Are So Beautiful” by Joe Cocker after the Post-communion prayer.

Secular music shold not be used within the context of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. This is a big no-no. He can do a blessing for the mothers, though, and, after Mass, give each mother a carnation or some other gift from the parish. But, the secular music is not allowed.

Absolutely 100% in agreement withe Benedictgal. This would have me out the door and on the phone to the pastor and the bishop in a heartbeat. I may be pretty and it may be nice but at Mass it isn’t pretty nice! This is the Mass and not Queen for a Day.

As I have said in other places, at one parish I attended about 15 years ago, they had a young boy sing Danny Boy after communion and before the final blessing. And everyone applauded when he was done!

This is the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass – not an entertainment spectacle!

God bless

Tony

 

[pnewton]

For this weekend

Hail Holy Queen Enthroned Above
Hail Mary? Gentle Woman
We Come to Your Feast
O Sanctissima
Sing to the Mountains

 

[pianomany2k]

Absolutely 100% in agreement withe Benedictgal. This would have me out the door and on the phone to the pastor and the bishop in a heartbeat. I may be pretty and it may be nice but at Mass it isn’t pretty nice! This is the Mass and not Queen for a Day.

I am in complete agreement as well. At any rate, plans changed, and we ended up with a visiting priest. Needless to say, I didn’t have to do the song.

 

[CatholicZ09]

This is what I suggest for the upcoming week:

Ascension Thursday - Thursday, May 13, 2010 - Year C

Processional Hymn: #188 Hail the Day that Sees Him Rise
Preparation of the Gifts: #178 At the Lamb’s High Feast
Communion Hymn: #535 We Remember
Recessional Hymn: #379 The Spirit Sends Us Forth

Seventh Sunday of Easter - Sunday, May 16, 2010 - Year C

Processional Hymn: #621 I Know that My Redeemer Lives
Preparation of the Gifts: #639 Isaiah 49
Communion Hymn: #319 One Love Released
Recessional Hymn: #733 Lift High the Cross

 

[CatholicZ09]

This is what my music director chose for this Sunday:

Sixth Sunday of Easter - Sunday, May 9, 2010

Processional Hymn: #569 Come, Christians, Join to Sing
Preparation of the Gifts: #178 At the Lamb’s High Feast
Communion Hymn: #362 I Received the Living God
Recessional Hymn: #169 Be Joyful, Mary

 

[agapewolf]

I agree. Easter hymns should be used for Easter and Pentecost hymns should be used for Pentecost.

I just looked through the planner and was shocked to see so many Pentecost hymns suggested for the Seventh Sunday of Easter. Are they confused?

After hearing the 2 homilies today, both about the Holy Spirit, and going over the readings once again, I think Holy Spirit songs are very appropriate for today. It’s mentioned in the first reading and the Gospel. We should keep songs within the season, but we should also put songs appropriate to the readings, and today is a Holy Spirit day. I don’t think there is “confusion” when its mentioned in 2 different readings. We are also looking forward to the coming of the Holy spirit on Pentacost, so calling upon it is appropriate.

 

[benedictgal]

I just looked at the dreadful United in Christ book that we use and A Hymn of Glory Let Us Sing is not even in there, nor is Go Make of All Disciples.

So, this is what I will suggest to the music director:

Entrance: Hail the Day that Sees Him Rise
Offertory: At the Lamb’s High Feast
Communion: Alleluia, Sing to Jesus
Recessional: To Jesus, Christ our Sovereign King

I am hoping that we will eventually be able to get rid of United in Christ now that it has been hinted that we are going to be purchasing new song books. But, unless I win the lottery and donate some sound hymnals, I am afraid we are stuck with OCP.

 

[CatholicZ09]

I just looked at the dreadful United in Christ book that we use and A Hymn of Glory Let Us Sing is not even in there, nor is Go Make of All Disciples.

So, this is what I will suggest to the music director:

Entrance: Hail the Day that Sees Him Rise
Offertory: At the Lamb’s High Feast
Communion: Alleluia, Sing to Jesus
Recessional: To Jesus, Christ our Sovereign King

I am hoping that we will eventually be able to get rid of United in Christ now that it has been hinted that we are going to be purchasing new song books. But, unless I win the lottery and donate some sound hymnals, I am afraid we are stuck with OCP.

“A Hymn of Glory Let Us Sing” is not included in my Breaking Bread Hymnal either. However, “Go Make of All Disciples” is, just added about two years ago to the Breaking Bread line of OCP hymnals.

It’s sad that some good hymns are not put in the newer missals/hymnals and replaced with contemporary music. I sure hope that in the next generation to come, all the good old hymns aren’t replaced with the contemporary stuff. Ugh, that’s my worst nightmare!

With all that said, out of all the OCP missals/hymnals, I think Breaking Bread is one the the hymnals that has more traditional stuff. Yet, there is a mix between the two. Each year when it goes for revision however, they have parishes take a survery and check off which songs they use and don’t use. It seems like some parishes love the OCP stuff, and so they take that information and add in new stuff each and every year. With the 2010 issue, they removed some hymns that needed to be removed. Now, I can only hope they get rid of “Gather Us In”.

 

[pianomany2k]

Now, I can only hope they get rid of “Gather Us In”.

Don’t count on it. A lot of people like that song.
I like it in moderation. That said, I rarely use it.

 

[benedictgal]

Don’t count on it. A lot of people like that song.
I like it in moderation. That said, I rarely use it.

In my much younger years (when I didn’t know any better), I liked it. However, I came to realize that Haugen does not even mention God by name, and, he really reduced what the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass means. Looking at the lyrics now, the song just seems pointless and is more of a glorification of ourselves than of God, who is the real actor in the Liturgy.