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[pnewton]

This week I played:

All are Welcome
Here I Am
Take and Eat
God It Was
City of God

Oh, and:

*1 Cor 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building.

10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.

11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

12 Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble;

13 Every man’s work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man’s work of what sort it is.

 

[TheMc]

Great, that’s really convenient; so I guess we can all just sit on our duffs while he does the heavy lifting.

Seriously, though, the song is doctrinally just fine. As Ven. John Paul II remarked in 2002:
The twentieth century often tried to do without that cornerstone [sc. Christ], and attempted to build the city of man without reference to Him. It ended by actually building that city against man! Christians know that it is not possible to reject or ignore God without demeaning man.

The aspiration that humanity nurtures, amid countless injustices and sufferings, is the hope of a new civilization marked by freedom and peace. But for such an undertaking, a new generation of builders is needed. Moved not by fear or violence but by the urgency of genuine love, they must learn to build, brick by brick, the city of God within the city of man.

Allow me, dear young people, to consign this hope of mine to you: you must be those “builders”! You are the men and women of tomorrow. The future is in your hearts and in your hands. God is entrusting to you the task, at once difficult and uplifting, of working with him in the building of the civilization of love.
(Italics in original).

Thanks for the quote!

I should have said this in the beginning, but I honestly don’t understand this either, but this came from a very orthodox that I would trust with my life (liturgically and doctrinally speaking ), so I’ll have to trust him, until I have a chance to ask him about it.

His explanation might have been a slightly different point, or I might not remembered the other part of it, but it was clear that this song is wrong. He also said the same thing about All Are Welcome, for a similar reason (“Let us build… Let us build… Let us build”), plus something else (again, can’t remember why, but it is wrong, I know that much. I’ll also ask him if I can). Maybe I’ll try and ask him when he gets back in February, and post it here when I find out the whole scoop.

I hope this post isn’t too rambling for ya’ll …

edit:
Now that I think about it, another major problem that (I think) he said was that they all focus on us

 

[Justin1224]

here are some hymns that I might suggest for the Sundays in winter Ordinary Time
I choose these solely on the particular readings of each Sunday and did not refer to
OCP’s Today’s Liturgy Publication for any ideas.

I haven’t been able to find anything for the 9th Sunday of OT. anyone have any ideas? We use OCPs Today Missal & Music issue in our parish.

3rd Sunday in Ordinary Time
You Are The Light
Gather Us In
Servant Song
City of God
The Summons
This Alone
Pescador de Hombres

4th Sunday in Ordinary Time
Earthen Vessels
Blest Are They
Lead Me Lord
Seek The Lord

5th Sunday in Ordinary Time
Christ Be Our Light
We Are The Light Of The World
We Are Called

6th Sunday in Ordinary Time
Eye Has Not Seen

7th Sunday in Ordinary Time
Rain Down
Loving and Forgiving

8th Sunday in Ordinary Time
Age to Age
Isaiah 49
Seek Ye First
Though The Mountains May Fall

9th Sunday in Ordinary Time

 

[CatholicZ09]

I believe the Ninth Sunday in Ordinary Time is the final Sunday in Ordinary Time before Lent. What I like to do is throw in all the “Alleluia-oriented” songs/hymns since we will not hear “Alleluia” until the Easter Vigil. It’s weird, it feels like Easter was not that long ago.

Here’s what I suggest:

Processional Hymn: Alleluia! Sing to Jesus HYFRYDOL
Preparation of the Gifts: Come, Christians, Join to Sing MADRID
Communion Hymn: Taste and See (I know this is not Alleluia-oriented) Moore
Recessional Hymn: Celtic Alleluia Walker

Here’s a little synopsis of the readings for the Ninth Sunday in Ordinary Time (March 6, 2011):

First Reading: Moses told the people that they would be blessed for obeying
the LORD’S commandments and cursed for disobeying them. He
urged them to take care in observing all the statutes and decrees he
gave them.

Second Reading: All have been redeemed in Christ Jesus, justified by faith and not
by lawful works.

Gospel Reading: Jesus calls on his disciples to listen to his words and act upon them.
By doing so, they are like the wise one who built his house on solid
rock rather than on sand.

If you do not wish to use “Alleluia-oriented” hymns/songs, here are some suggestions:

Praise to the Lord
Holy, Holy, Holy
Blessed by Your Sacrifice
We Walk by Faith
Now We Remain
Only This I Want
Gift of Finest Wheat
Go Make of All Disciples
The Spirit Sends Us Forth
Sent Forth by God’s Blessing
Be Thou My Vision

 

[itsmaura]

WOW! I love your song selection. I especially like the song** Breathe. **Try it in combination with Draw Me Close to You. I also love Christ Be Our Light. My band recorded a 4/4 re-write of it that has a faster, more joyous tone. The congregation loves it also. And please don’t shy away from City of God because of those who would overanalyze it. “Let us build a City of God. May our tears be turned into dancing.” What a message! If you are looking for more like these, I suggest the Spirit & Song hymnal. It is one of the primarily music sources for the Lifeteen masses. One of the most notable songs is Matt Maher’s version of Come to the Water. God Bless you. Keep listening to your heart.

I totally love his version of Come To The Water, he nailed it. I also love how he did Adoration. I bought the music for that, That’s a perfect example of how he took an old hymn, made it his own, modernized it, and the message is still so powerful. I totally love that. You can take an old hymn and make it a fit for whatever group you play with, sacred choir, contemporary, or praise band, or whatever. , if the message is powerful, go for it.
I have a Spirit and Song book, I “borrowed” it from St. Pat’s church. (God knows, though and he says they have plenty more so don’t worry) And I have Choose Christ with guitar chords and stuff.

We do a lot of contemporary, Breathe, The Prayer, You Raise Me Up, Shout To The Lord, Jesus My Everything, Be With Me Lord, etc. but we do Be Not Afraid and City of God too, they all work with my church.

I’d love to do Draw Me Close To You, it’s perfect for lent too.

 

[Mathias64]

dear itsmaura

We are definitely kindred worship spirits. Feel free to communicate with me off line. I know lots of P&W stuff that works really well without sullying the message of the mass.
mcraet@comcast.com

 

[agapewolf]

Check out hillsong and Passion for good new P&W songs

 

[Mathias64]

Hillsong & Passion absolutely! Chris Tomlin’s I Will Rise is a masterpiece.

 

[agapewolf]

Hillsong & Passion absolutely! Chris Tomlin’s I Will Rise is a masterpiece.

Although art and artists tend to use hyperbole, I think its important to be a little more accurate objectively describing music and its quality.

While “I will rise” is a nice song, it does not qualify as a masterpiece, but this is another discussion.

 

[benedictgal]

Hillsong & Passion absolutely! Chris Tomlin’s I Will Rise is a masterpiece.

While I understand that there is a huge following and appreciation of this particular style, part of the problem with the Praise and Worship genre is that it was never meant (and, it still is not) for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The music used for the Mass needs to have a degree of the sacred and it needs to be consistent with Church teaching (including theological, sacramental and liturgical).

About five years ago, the USCCB had released a power point presentation that included some very helpful suggestions on selecting music. Since this thread treats the matter of musical selections, perhaps these items might be helpful:

**Individual songs should be consonant with Catholic teaching and free from theological error

The repertoire of liturgical songs in any given setting should not manifest a collective bias against Catholic theological elements.**

Is there a sufficient attention to the Trinity and to the Trinitarian structure of Catholic beliefs and teachings? Do our liturgical songs fail at times to present the Trinity as the central mystery of the Christian faith? Does the language used in referring to the Persons of the Trinity contribute at times to a lack of clarity? Is there a reluctance to use “Father” for the first person of the Blessed Trinity? Is the relationship between Jesus and the Father stressed sufficiently? Are there times when the word “God” is placed in a sentence where one would expect to find “Father” or “God the Father” since the reference is precisely to the relationship between the first and second persons of the Trinity?

Is there an obscured presentation of the centrality of Christ in salvation history and an insufficient emphasis on the divinity of Christ? Do our liturgical songs present Jesus as the culmination of the Old Testament and the fulfillment of God’s plan for our salvation? Is the indispensable place of the incarnation in the plan of salvation sufficiently presented? Is Jesus the Savior often overshadowed by Jesus the teacher, model, friend, and brother? Is there an appropriate balance? Is there an imbalance in our emphasis on the humanity or divinity of Jesus Christ? At times, can we detect a negative undertone in speaking of the divine nature of Christ, as if divinity is equated with being “distant and unreal.”

An indistinct treatment of the ecclesial context of Catholic beliefs and magisterial teachings?

Do the texts give insufficient emphasis to God’s initiative in the world with a corresponding overemphasis on human action?

Is there a sufficient recognition of the transforming effects of grace?

According to Liturgiam Authenticam, hymns used for the Mass:

Three Characteristics of Liturgical Songs:
Must Be Doctrinally Correct
Chiefly Based in Liturgy and Scripture
Relatively Fixed in Number

These are things that, I believe, should be considered when selecting music that is appropriate for use in the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.