Muslim article attacking the Isaiah 9:6 prophecy?

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Why would you listen to Muslims propaganda that attempts to discredit the trinity
 
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We can get all bent out of shape and concerned about everything on the internet, or we can place our faith like a house on a rock, where these waves won’t knock it down.

And there are some chatters here with OCD who do just that. Think of the person first, Rather then the answer to the question,
 
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Here’s what happened , Jesus was crucified and rose from the dead.

Isaiah 53 and psalm 22 were looked at with fresh eyes after this. When the Apostles were making sense of this. Here Jesus as the suffering servant is described.

We must also make the distinction that Isaiah is written by 2 different people and 2 centuries apart

So any scholarship of Isaiah must include these important points.
 
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I probably shouldn’t but I was raised Muslim so I have a natural interest in it. Muslims tend to poof text quotes from the bible. Since they view the bible like the Quran which doesn’t really have a clear narrative style in the of the bible. It doesn’t necessarily proceed in an chronological order per se but really shifts topic to topic. It really lacks much context compared to the bible. It’s very ad-hoc. I’m not saying this inherently disproves the Quran. Just a different style from the biblical narrative.

Thanks to everyone for the answers.
 
The Bible has quite a few different genres,
narrative, poetic, legal, prose, parable, genealogy
 
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NT, like “mighty God”.
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They won’t understand the difference between the human Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, and the Divine Jesus.

In the New Testament one of the oldest references to the Divine Jesus is in the Marana that prayer, Come Lord Come, in Aramaic.

Paul wrote the Letters first, about 20 or 30 years after the death of Jesus and his letters focussed on the Divinity of Jesus.
Of course, Johns Gospel has many names for the Divine Jesus
 
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They won’t understand the difference between the human Jesus, Jesus of Nazareth, and the Divine Jesus.

In the New Testament one of the oldest references to the Divine Jesus is in the Marana that prayer, Come Lord Come, in Aramaic.

Paul wrote the Letters first, about 20 or 30 years after the death of Jesus and his letters focussed on the Divinity of Jesus.
Of course, Johns Gospel has many names for the Divine Jesus
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Jesus was a divine person just a prophet could be!
 
Jesus had two natures in one person, a fully human nature and a fully Divine nature. Jesus was fully human, just like us in all things besides sin
 
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Jesus had two natures in one person, a fully human nature and a fully Divine nature. Jesus was fully human, just like us in all things besides sin
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Divine Nature does not settle in matter. Divine Nature surround the all matter.

God is always God. Some part of God do not trnasform into matter. Or God do not incarnate into human. Well God do not incarnate. God is simple and infinite so if God is eternal but God is always eternal. Human nature cannot be eternal.

We know Jesus as a human and the beyond… conjectures just could be relied on mysteries.
 
Are you expecting the Muslims to concur this text proves the divinity of Christ or something? :roll_eyes:
 
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You are speaking from Muslim doctrine. I am speaking from Catholic Doctrine.
We are in Sacred Scripture.

Catholic Sacred Scripture. Where Jesus is true God and true Man
 
Yes! He is 100% human and 100% divine! What a beautiful mystery!

What greater love than to become one of us and suffer so much in His Passion.

Alleluia! He is Risen and still with us!
 
I think we can argue that for Gospels but Qur’an is direct words of God.
 
You look at Islam and Qur’an from very far away. By saying Islam and Qur’an or prophet Muhammad are false cannot change the fact that Islam and Qur’an is the unique pure revelation.
 
No. Qur’an is direct revelation. Bible is sourced from revelation so Bible is some like Qur’an. Muhammad could not read or write. When people heard revelation they were used to say that “we have not heard such thing”. Muhammad were not taught by any one. Well. You will say that Muhammad had met some monks. But Muhammad was very young and that meeting were very short. If Muhammad had taken something from Christians or Jews so it would be very easy to refute His prophethood but nobody could do that. Pagans were clever so they would realise such thing.

You said Muhammad propagated Islam by sword. That is not true. Muhammad saved Islam by sword. Muhammad preached with a very less power for a decade. People and Pagans became and converted to Islam by will. The first thousands got into Islam without sword. I do not mean later people came to Islam by sword but Islam got hearts of people and Muslims could sacrifice their life for Islam.

Christianity did not invaded by power of a state. So first followers of Jesus were persecuted very much. When Rome support Christianity so it became easy to invade. Islam in the beginning established a state to save faith. Sometimes that state made wars. But if you do not take hearts so you cannot take people for centuries.

Christianity is from God and that is certain. But that do not disregard that people added many things in religion after Jesus. For instance there is doctrines in Bible and Jesus and apostles never preached such thoughts.
 
The Faith and religion are directly must be established by God through a prophet. Nobody can claim to have authority to establish a new faith by other ways. Church should follow Jesus and teach what exactly Jesus taught. Prophets are chosen people and were supported by God as Jesus were given a great authority and were supported by Holy Spirit. Ofcourse there maybe many moraly high people as Fathers in Church but Fathers cannot make laws in religion as alternative of Jesus. And nobody can prove the claim that God had given Church the authority of making new laws or doctrines in faith. Jesus always preached God to be one in all attribution including personality. God is one with all existence.
 
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