Jesus is Lord, God.And everyday I’m in this world I’m given more reasons to distrust man and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ!
Well, no offence; but I thin you’re completely wrong.
flea the room. And I don’t think this is any sort of “guilt trip.” Those guys will slaughter you thinking they’re doing good to benefit Allah’s kingdom. It was probably seen as an honor.No offense taken.Well, no offence; but I thin you’re completely wrong.
I do not accept the ‘testimony’ and you are free to accept it.Oh, my mistake!He didn’t say he “didn’t know the color of the robe,” he said he was being choked out by a demon (which I hear in multiple demonic situations from several people) and a voice told him to call on the name of Jesus. He said he didn’t know why he did call on Jesus, but just did out of impulse. And he compared it to drowning, when someone tosses you a rope, you don’t pay attention to “the color of the ROPE” (not ROBE) “you just grab on.” He was comparing the situation to drowning. I hear people who suffer from “sleep paralasys,” which I am convinced is demonic presence call onthe name of Jesus, and the demons “or holusinations”
I obviously had a little problem understanding him. Ooooh, he said ROPE and not ROBE. Yes, you are correct. I went back and watched the video. Okay, well that is clarified.Those are some nice biblical references. I can’t argue with that. So, it is possible that a person may experience fear. Of course, just because this possible problem is eliminated does not necessarily mean that it is a true testimony.
Well, what is he saying? He said that he heard a voice say: I am Jesus ________ fill in the blank if you please. I can’t figure out what he is saying.I don’t think he said Jesus said “the God head.”
You are correct. I misunderstood the part where he started to speak about the worst sin a Muslim can commit being to question Allah. I thought he questioned Allah before his second experience which would put him in a bind. However, just because a person kills another person under a situation that is socially or religiosly justified does not mean there is no psychological effects. Even when these acts are considered by the society or religion as honorable there can be some serious psychological effects. There are many veterans who have to live with flashbacks etc…
Not long ago, there was a lady on EWTN who shared her conversion story which involved an apparition of Jesus. I had no problems with what she shared and found it inspiring. After her experience, she converted from Judaism to the Catholic Church and married and had two children. She said that her children consider themselves Jewish Catholics and as a family they have kept some Jewish traditions which compliments their christianity. But, a lot of information was given sufficient to answers the questions that naturally arise.Hmmmm…No offense taken.
…I would for instance, want to know what christian church he belongs to. If I invite a new person to my home, I make sure to give him the correct address.
…Not long ago, there was a lady on EWTN who shared her conversion story which involved an apparition of Jesus. I had no problems with what she shared and found it inspiring. After her experience, she converted from Judaism to the Catholic Church
You think maybe you don’t accept his testemony because he didn’t convert to CATHOLOSISM. Bah… I have to go back and watch it…Well, what is he saying? He said that he heard a voice say: I am Jesus ________ fill in the blank if you please. I can’t figure out what he is saying.
Well, yes. But in my opinion, this testemony really did sound along the lines of God’s presence and a typical demonic presence. Nothing at all like the symptoms I’ve heard about war veterans in documentories. I mean, Moses killed a guy right before he met God. Was HE dealing with bad psychological effects of that experience? Is he just out of a cool state-of-mind?
This testamony just sounds too different from war shock. I had a grandfather-in-law who was a war vet who suffered from some sort of scitsifrinia (however u spell that) and it wasn’t anything like this. (He broke a dude’s neck with his fist.)Why not? Look at what satan did to Job and how he suffered. God is omnipotant, He could have called off the bet anytime. Perhaps it’s because God is omnipotant that He allowed this. As he said, Jesus needed to use him to spread the gospel. What if he wasn’t driven bonkers enough by that demon and when the voice said “call on Jesus” he’d think it was a CHRISTIAN DEMON! -Lol. He would have certainly been more motivated to wipe our “obviously evil” religion off the map, one be-heading at a time. Jesus needed him to be desperate to not let him “question the color of the rope he was grabbing.”
Hmmmm…
, I would want to know if he is contradicting in his real life Catholic teachings and if he is living a devout life. This information is not given, so how can one run to accept such claims? What criteria are you using that have made you conclude instantly that this is a legitimate claim and guarantees that this person will not theologically or physically do something contrary to the teachings of Jesus?Exactly, you said it.
A TYPICAL demonic presence and apparition. People just need to devote a little time in the internet and conduct some research and easily quote John 14:6 and put up a show. I am careful as to not under estimate the intelligence of people. Why should I assume that he never heard of Jesus nor John 14:6? I am Catholic but I have read about other religions and am familiar with the names and claims of key figures of other religions.I am sure you do not mean to compare the presence of Satan with the presence of Jesus.
Pardon? I do not understand that Jesus NEEDS him in order to get something done.
Jesus does not NEED for this individual to be DESPERATE in order for this person to follow him. Jesus does not need to have a person in a position where this person will not question him. You see, Mr. Zetterlund, in the presence of Jesus the soul understands immediately that Jesus is the origin of his existence and that Jesus is God and that God is LOVE and WISDOM and is MERCIFUL. [The young man got this down right but, there are problems he did not forsee or investigated enough at least not for me to file it as a possible legitimate apparition. And, again there is lack of information about him and his life etc…]The soul recognizes that God loves him and that God knows him more than he knows himself. In this presence of the Kings of King and the Just Judge, and GOD, why would a soul indulge for TWO HOURS in darkness in the actual presence of GOD while GOD stands by? Mind you I am not a theologian but with my limited knowledge I have serious problems with this person’s claim.
Hello rikkk1958,
In my opinion, I think I made a much better argument than you. I don’t think the Catholic Church is necessary for salvation, or for divine intervention. I believe the man because he was a hard-core Muslim who repented with tears, who still cries when thinking about his encounter, and remains completely consistant with every other divine intervention testamony I’ve ever heard. I’m not showing this to you as a confirmation of our faith, I just thought this would make you as happy as it did me. By the way, his testamony is just like Saul’s when he changed his name to Paul. So the fact that you’re placing more skepticism towards him is a little double-standardish.
You are also entitled to your opinion.Well Abba, you’re entitled to your opinion I suppose.
I am surprised that you are referring to the topic of salvation after it was introduced by
Theatrics are not enough for me.
I do not follow the person, I follow God. A lot of people have converted to sects because of the charisma of some so-called ministers etc… This is sad. There are also people, including Catholics, who are mislead from the faith or to incorrect understandings of the faith by charismatic (and I am not using the word Charismatic) people within the Church. If we allow ourselves to be lead by people and nice words and emotions some will end up worshiping the sun and others the moon and even cows and who knows, I haven’t heard of this one but why not grasshoppers?Really?
Let’s not compare apples with oranges and conclude that they are the same. Paul is an apostle of Christ and his story is in Holy Scripture. If the young man’s testimony was part of scripture I would not question it or place it in the condition that it needs to be evaluated. I am simply using my mind and thinking as we all should and the claim does not pass my criteria.By the way, his testamony is just like Saul’s when he changed his name to Paul. So the fact that you’re placing more skepticism towards him is a little double-standardish.