Muslim converts to Christianity, Father kills Mother

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Frankly, I don’t see any change except that they are changing for the worse. If you visit www.persecution.org you will see that if anything persecution and violence are increasing in Islam. Muslims need to face this problem rather then blaming the messengers.
 
I_question_God said:
yea and you said it…Riyadah or Cairo however they are trying to change that and note its not everywhere.

Muslims duty is to serve God and only God and to try to get into heaven, and no not for the virgins for all the blessings. Along that cultural background and old habits get stuck in which we tend to think of as part of the religion when they arent part of their religion, but culture s you stated above.

Yes it is sad, but it happens, just like we have other issues of our own.

Not a whole religion is evil based on certain peoples actions
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But in the case of Islam it was the founder himself who was evil and violent so how can you expect followers to be different?
 
Yes, howevr he was violent because they were persecuting him for his Religion.

There are books on him if you’d like to discuss the issue more.

As far as his followers being evil, well my best friend is Muslim and she is more giving than anyone I know. Her whole family. Due to these stereotypes (not entirely your fault, all of ours as we keep them going) I was scared of even meeting her husband (an Arab man, oh my, the shock, lord forbid) he turned out respectful, nice, sits next to his wife she doesn’t have to follow behind him when they walk, or none of that stuff.

Go figure this one out she just started covering with her head scarf too! wow the shock. She is 26 years old, married, and with 4 beautiful children. She has committed mistakes even left her religion for a while when she was younger, however on her trip to her homelaND SHE DIDNT DIE, NOR DID HER FATHER KILL HER, NOR HER HUSBAND.

She is happy where she is at now in her life.

That is one example I know a few other muslims, and they are all alive, nice, and great people.

My point is NOT everyone is how we imagine them. Just like not all Jehovah witness are only always talking about god, not all jehovah witnesses joke at the catholic religion, not all catholic priests are “weird”, not all mormons are strange, not all muslims are terrorists.
 
I_question_God said:
Yes, howevr he was violent because they were persecuting him for his Religion.
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So you say Mohammed was violent because people persecuted him. What does that say about him?? Brutal, intolerant, vengeful, unforgiving, lacking in mercy!
Jesus was persecuted, beaten, whipped and crucified but even on the cross he forgave everyone.
Also he told his followers to love their enemies and pray for them.
Now spot the difference between the two religions.
 
thistle said:
So you say Mohammed was violent because people persecuted him. What does that say about him?? Brutal, intolerant, vengeful, unforgiving, lacking in mercy!
Jesus was persecuted, beaten, whipped and crucified but even on the cross he forgave everyone.
Also he told his followers to love their enemies and pray for them.
Now spot the difference between the two religions.
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I never said their wasn’t a difference. Besides Jesus was made to be perfect and even he told people off what do we expect from mere humans and other prophets?

No one can take Jesus’s spot I did not imply that. I answered your question about the followers. Good day
 
Valke2 said:
you don’t think there are plenty of jewish and catholic families that disown children who marry outside the faith?
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If I can use an analogy.

Your son decides to join a neo-Nazi Party. He becomes a skin-head and goes around beating up Asians. You disown him.

Your neighbour is a neo-Nazi. His daughter leaves this life and becomes a Buddhist monk. They disown her.

Both have been disowned. But the paths they have chosen are entirely different. One is moving from violence. One is moving to violence.

And disowning a child is different from killing him/her. In Islam Apostasy is punishable by death.
 
LilyM said:
I was about to ask for a source.

Mind you, don’t believe everything you read in newspapers. I know from personal experience that they get even the most basic of facts wrong many time.
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In this case :

In the morning I read the article in the Daily Telegraph (I’m from Sydney too). In the afternoon, the link had died, and I watched the news on channels Ten and Nine that night to see if it was in the news, and it wasn’t.

The story has vanished.

Unfortunatley some will take this as proof that this sort of thing (the violent reaction) never happens.
 
I don’t think anyone with a brain would take this as evidence that it never happens, I certainly don’t. Simply that this particular incident was reported wrongly.

Of course the Telegraph had a duty to remove the story from their website if they were wrong, and it sounds like they were, and the television channels have a duty not to spread an inaccurate story any further.
 
Stories like this tend to “disappear” quickly from our media. It hurts the pc image of Islam. Can’t have people waking up.
 
I have seen no story recanting it, so I go with the info we do have. It isn’t like this is unusual. Converts get killed all the time.
 
LilyM said:
I don’t think anyone with a brain would take this as evidence that it never happens, I certainly don’t. Simply that this particular incident was reported wrongly.

Of course the Telegraph had a duty to remove the story from their website if they were wrong, and it sounds like they were, and the television channels have a duty not to spread an inaccurate story any further.
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I recall a book by a woman claiming to have known a girl (a friend of hers) who was killed by her parents for dating a Christian boy.

It turned out the book was made up.

Keysar Trad, mouth-piece for Sydney’s own Iman went to town with this revelation as if it prooved that this sort of thing never happened
 
If the story is recanted please post the recantation. Otherwise it stands.
 
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