Muslim converts to Christianity

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Zlatan said:
I read somethign once that said that Mohammed’s family disowned him when his father died because they thought he was iligitimate. I read that his name before his prophethood was qthem meaning rottern food. I actually read an artivle by an islamic scholar claiming that. I also read elsewhere that mohammed as a youth might have been molested by family memebers. i dont know where they got that from but i wonder if you could shine any light on any of these subjects concerning mohammed’s early life and family?😃
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To Zlatan and inJesus, it is necessary to tell that illegitimate birth of your Jesus is well known from the bible. that is because Joseph was only his namely father. And Mary was found pregnant before her marriage, before she was taken away by Joseph the Carpentar. That is a sure cae of illegitimate birth.of your Jesus.
 
planten said:
To Zlatan and inJesus, it is necessary to tell that illegitimate birth of your Jesus is well known from the bible. that is because Joseph was only his namely father. And Mary was found pregnant before her marriage, before she was taken away by Joseph the Carpentar. That is a sure cae of illegitimate birth.of your Jesus.
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I’m sure my dear Planten that you are familiar with the great prophet Isaias? Who spoke foretelling the Savior that He will be born of a virgin.
 
SimonArizona said:
I’m sure my dear Planten that you are familiar with the great prophet Isaias? Who spoke foretelling the Savior that He will be born of a virgin.
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Simon, you are right. But presently I am dealing with some nasty fellows. So pleae allow me to respond to them in kind with love…
 
He is the first pope to visit a muslim country i believe…

i heard he was greeted warmly when he spoke, he talked about something that most christians dont ever say… that muslims and christians all believe in the same god.
 
planten said:
To Zlatan and inJesus, it is necessary to tell that illegitimate birth of your Jesus is well known from the bible. that is because Joseph was only his namely father. And Mary was found pregnant before her marriage, before she was taken away by Joseph the Carpentar. That is a sure cae of illegitimate birth.of your Jesus.
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the books of Muhammad’s life history mentioned that the father of Muhammad Abdullah married his mother in the same day as his father Abdul-Mutaleb , as he and his father married two sisters on the same day, Abdullah the father of Muhammad died after few months of marriage leaving Amina pregnant, and his grand father Abdul Mutaleb had a child from his wife who was Hamza, the uncle of the prophet, he was killed during the incursion of O’hud, and they said that he was four years older than Muhammad as all the books affirmed , so the only solution for this, is that Muhammad stayed inside the womb of his mother for four years.

check out the dates and chronology of the events…hopefully you can find them in your language…so its not about being nasty, but about reading what your literature says.
 
inJESUS said:
the books of Muhammad’s life history mentioned that the father of Muhammad Abdullah married his mother in the same day as his father Abdul-Mutaleb , as he and his father married two sisters on the same day, Abdullah the father of Muhammad died after few months of marriage leaving Amina pregnant, and his grand father Abdul Mutaleb had a child from his wife who was Hamza, the uncle of the prophet, he was killed during the incursion of O’hud, and they said that he was four years older than Muhammad as all the books affirmed , so the only solution for this, is that Muhammad stayed inside the womb of his mother for four years.

check out the dates and chronology of the events…hopefully you can find them in your language…so its not about being nasty, but about reading what your literature says.
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**inJesus, Since Mary was pregnant before meeting her husband, did you calculate in which month of pregnancy she was when she was handed over to her husband? How swollen was her belly when she came out of the temple? And how many days after coming out of temple did she deliver the child (Jesus)? Did you calculate all that too?

If you did not then it is bad. That was your prime duty to work out why she was pregnant at all. And how long had she been pregnant in the temple? Kindly do some research about all these things too.**
 
Actually, even from an Islamic point of view, i do not have to do a reasearch on this…things are clear who is the mother and Father of Jesus, but when it comes to my previous claim, which isn’t mine actually, it’s there in Islamic literature…but if you are not willing to do a research to check if the claim is right or no, then i’ll refrain from continuing to answer you.
 
inJESUS said:
Actually, even from an Islamic point of view, i do not have to do a reasearch on this…things are clear who is the mother and Father of Jesus, but when it comes to my previous claim, which isn’t mine actually, it’s there in Islamic literature…but if you are not willing to do a research to check if the claim is right or no, then i’ll refrain from continuing to answer you.
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You were talikng from the Islamic point of view. I was talking from the bible point of view (Pregnancy of Mary). You could not find anything better from the Islamic books. I could not find anything better in the bible. Do you have any complaint now?
 
planten said:
You were talikng from the Islamic point of view. I was talking from the bible point of view (Pregnancy of Mary). You could not find anything better from the Islamic books. I could not find anything better in the bible. Do you have any complaint now?
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I am really upset planten with your comments in red texts.Thousand times we showed the violence and errors of your scriptures but nothing can convince you.OK be at peace.
 
inJESUS said:
Actually, even from an Islamic point of view, i do not have to do a reasearch on this…things are clear who is the mother and Father of Jesus, but when it comes to my previous claim, which isn’t mine actually, it’s there in Islamic literature…but if you are not willing to do a research to check if the claim is right or no, then i’ll refrain from continuing to answer you.
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Can you please reference your so called research on the biography on Muhammad.

I can find books that bash Christianity or Jesus… but it doesn’t mean that its from a reliable source.

reference your points before you state stupid things that don’t even make sense.
 
SunfromtheWest said:
Can you please reference your so called research on the biography on Muhammad.

I can find books that bash Christianity or Jesus… but it doesn’t mean that its from a reliable source.

reference your points before you state stupid things that don’t even make sense.
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I have requested the christian friends to post from Quran. But they run to the Hadith. then I run to the Da vinci Code, naturally. It is a bad idea to start the bad topics. But Catholics seem to enjoy such things. They are more like the protestants here.
 
planten said:
I have requested the christian friends to post from Quran. But they run to the Hadith. then I run to the Da vinci Code, naturally. It is a bad idea to start the bad topics. But Catholics seem to enjoy such things. They are more like the protestants here.
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platen the problem is this:

Hadith (الحديث transliteration: al-ḥadīth, pl. aḥadīth; lit. “narrative”) are oral traditions relating to the words and deeds of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Hadith collections are regarded as important tools for determining the Sunnah, or Muslim way of life, by all traditional schools of jurisprudence.

The Da Vinci Code is a controversial mystery/detective novel by American author Dan Brown, published in 2003 by Doubleday. It follows symbologist Robert Langdon as he investigates a murder in the Louvre, and discovers a battle between the Priory of Sion and Opus Dei over the possibility of Jesus having been married to and fathering a child with Mary Magdalene.

The Da Vinci Code is a novel (fictional work). So are you saying the Hadith is a work of fiction? Or on the same level of importance as any other fictional book. If that is the case one can then possibly think perhaps you view the Quran as fiction as well?
 
SunfromtheWest said:
Can you please reference your so called research on the biography on Muhammad.

I can find books that bash Christianity or Jesus… but it doesn’t mean that its from a reliable source.

reference your points before you state stupid things that don’t even make sense.
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my references are in Arabic since they are taken from Islamic sources and if you are interested about it but don’t know Arabic, you can check the points raised in my other post to Planten and assess for yourself…do not attack the messenger.
 
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