Muslim flight attendant says she was suspended for refusing to serve alcohol

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Can I convert to something different every year and sue my employer regularly when I find out it is against my religion?

Technically, if she wants to get ‘real religious’, it is ‘haram’ (forbidden) in the strictest Islamic interpretations to “sit at a table” where alcohol is served, it is also forbidden to be involved in ‘haram’ activities - of course, haram includes pork, shellfish, etc… so the entire plane would be forbidden if she goes all the way. Why stop at booze?
 
tamedlion said:
About that county clerk, was she wrong for refusing the license? I’m trying to get this straight in my mind where is humanity standing today. For example, if my job description today involves killing cows, but tomorrow the law changes and says that I also have to kill human beings together with the cows. Should I comply then with the law or find myself another job? In the flight attendant case, I already know that serving alcohol is part of the job description but for the county clerk, the law change on her. Should she then perform the new part of the job which is issuing licenses to homosexuals or stand for what is right since no one else seems to want to do it?
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Your argument is an Appeal to Extremes

Description: Erroneously attempting to make a reasonable argument into an absurd one, by taking the argument to the extremes.

Logical Form:

If X is true, then Y must also be true (where Y -killing people- is the extreme of X -doing one’s job.)
 
frobert said:
Your argument is an Appeal to Extremes

Description: Erroneously attempting to make a reasonable argument into an absurd one, by taking the argument to the extremes.

Logical Form:

If X (change in job description) is true, then Y (killing people) must also be true (where Y - killing people is the extreme of X - doing one’s job)
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Sometime you must use the absurd to point out the absurd.
 
twopekinguys said:
Some things people seem to be missing here is that she converted to Islam approximately 1 year after she became a flight attendant, so she knew she would have to serve alcohol.

She states that she only realized in June, that serving alcohol was against her religion.

Instead of going to her employer, she worked out an “arrangement” with other employees, so she wouldn’t have to serve alcohol.

A coworker complained, and she got suspended.

Read it here.
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3223926/Muslim-flight-attendant-files-discrimination-complaint-against-employer-claiming-suspended-refusing-serve-alcohol.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3223926/Muslim-flight-attendant-files-discrimination-complaint-against-employer-claiming-suspended-refusing-serve-alcohol.html
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Posters have bypassed your post.

The facts to this case are as follows:

She got this job 3 years ago. She was NOT a muslim then

She converted to Islam 2 years ago. She continued to serve alcohol because she was not aware of all the do’s & dont’s of her new faith.

When she realized this business with the alcohol is against her new religion, she passed that job on to other flight crew.

They complained and the rest you know.
 
I have never heard of this before. lolol
the off-licences in the UK are mainly run by muslims. that’s all they sell, nearly 24/7 aswel as cigarettes. they don’t say its against there religion. why should this woman?
 
Doormouse said:
I have never heard of this before. lolol
the off-licences in the UK are mainly run by muslims. that’s all they sell, nearly 24/7 aswel as cigarettes. they don’t say its against there religion. why should this woman?
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For the benefit of the Yanks on the thread, “off-license” is Britspeak for “liquor store.” 😃
 
DaveBj said:
For the benefit of the Yanks on the thread, “off-license” is Britspeak for “liquor store.” 😃
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Yeah - many muslims here in the US own gas stations which in turn also sell beer.

And many other muslims here own just liquor stores.
 
Neofight said:
So I guess we all agree that the county clerk in Kentucky was not being punished for her religious convictions, but for failure to do her job…I’m glad we’re consistent in thought!🙂
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The clerk in Kentucky evidently did her job and well as she has been there for years. She probably couldn’t have imagined and immoral law against her faith would have ever been passed. I find it hard to believe the flight attendant didn’t known serving alcohol was part of the job before applying for it. If she converted after the fact that would be a different story.

Didn’t the President willfully decide not to enforce Federal law on immigration? Aren’t sanctuary cities choosing not to enforce Federal law?
 
jlhargus said:
The clerk in Kentucky evidently did her job and well as she has been there for years. She probably couldn’t have imagined and immoral law against her faith would have ever been passed. I find it hard to believe the flight attendant didn’t known serving alcohol was part of the job before applying for it. If she converted after the fact that would be a different story.

Didn’t the President willfully decide not to enforce Federal law on immigration? Aren’t sanctuary cities choosing not to enforce Federal law?
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Just a point of clarification.

Kim Davis’ mother was the clerk for over 20 years. Kim was elected this past November.

She did however serve as a “deputy” clerk in the office under her mother for several years prior to being elected.

With all of this gay marriage stuff in the news, she could have/should have seen the possibility of it passing, and weighed her options a little better.
 
twopekinguys said:
Just a point of clarification.

Kim Davis’ mother was the clerk for over 20 years. Kim was elected this past November.

She did however serve as a “deputy” clerk in the office under her mother for several years prior to being elected.

With all of this gay marriage stuff in the news, she could have/should have seen the possibility of it passing, and weighed her options a little better.
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More like 24 years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Davis_(county_clerk
 
twopekinguys said:
So, she should have seen this coming before running for election. Right?
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Not necessarily. I only meant to show that she had a lot more experience in the job than your post indicated. But even so, she would have been dealing only with local issues. The SCOTUS case was a national issue, and that case didn’t go to the court until after she had won the election. She would have had to be a pretty good prophet to have predicted the outcome of a case that wasn’t even in the court yet.

And we’re off-topic. Back to the flight attendant.
 
DaveBj said:
Not necessarily. I only meant to show that she had a lot more experience in the job than your post indicated. But even so, she would have been dealing only with local issues. The SCOTUS case was a national issue, and that case didn’t go to the court until after she had won the election. She would have had to be a pretty good prophet to have predicted the outcome of a case that wasn’t even in the court yet.

And we’re off-topic. Back to the flight attendant.
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and the flight attendant is still wrong. 😛
 
twopekinguys said:
and the flight attendant is still wrong. 😛
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As far as I’m concerned, if her conversion to Islam meant that she could no longer do the job for which she was hired, then she needs to resign and get another job. She had a work-around for a while with her colleagues, and that was okay, as long as it was okay with those colleagues. Apparently, it wasn’t okay.
 
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