Muslim Followers of Jesus?

[Siddhartha]

Can one be a Muslim and a follower of Jesus? Tens of thousands believe so, and in this third installment of the Global Conversation, Yale University scholar Joseph Cumming describes the furious debate their example has fueled. The question of following Jesus while remaining within a practicing community of Muslims has great importance in regions where the two faiths contend. It also serves as an important example of a wider challenge. As the gospel moves across cultural boundaries, those who respond will answer its call in different ways. As missions historian Andrew Walls has written, “Conversion to Christ does not produce a bland universal citizenship; it produces distinctive discipleships, as diverse and variegated as human life itself.” The gospel must be contextualized, but how far can contextualization go without violating the gospel? And who sets the boundaries? – The Editors
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In 1979 my best friend decided he saw himself not as a “Christian,” but as a “Messianic Jew.” John had come from a secular Jewish background and was actually a practicing Hindu before he met Jesus. Then, for three years he was active in a Bible-believing Christian church. But now John felt called to reconnect with his Jewish roots, join a Messianic synagogue, keep a kosher home, and raise his children Jewish. He saw no contradiction between following Jesus as Messiah and identifying—ethnically and religiously—as Jewish.
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In the 1980s a similar movement began among Muslims who had come to faith in Christ. These were Muslims who trusted Jesus as Lord and divine Savior, believed Jesus died for their sins and rose again, and insisted this did not make them ex-Muslims or converts to the Christian religion. They wanted to remain within their Muslim community, honoring Jesus in that context.

 

[dzheremi]

Syncretism is a horrible sin. These Muslims are deluding themselves if they think they can remain in Islam and believe the things they do, or become Christians and believe as Muslims do about Jesus Christ.

 

[jakasaki]

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In the 1980s a similar movement began among Muslims who had come to faith in Christ.

These were Muslims who trusted Jesus as Lord and divine Savior, believed Jesus died for their sins and rose again, and insisted this did not make them ex-Muslims or converts to the Christian religion.

They wanted to remain within their Muslim community, honoring Jesus in that context.

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The above belief goes against their koran and muslims will see these people described above as NON-muslims. ~ kafir ~ kafur!

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They wanted to remain within their Muslim community, honoring Jesus in that context.

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If they are remaining in their muslim community with the belief as stated above, they are doing it quietly and silently, otherwise there are consequences for them.

If this article you posted is true, I wish these people well and for them to permanently leave islam, the koran and their false prophet

 

[Nine_Two]

While there are no real issues with the Jewish man - Christianity teaches that becoming Christian does not mean giving up your ethnic roots and allows the contiued practice of religious laws (specifically Jewish) that don’t contradict the message of Christ, the “Muslims” are going to have issues within their own community as what they are professing does violate the teachings of the Koran.

 

[seraphime2008]

I think there could be lots of motives of doing so:

1. The threat of killing the apostasy.
2. Feeling that being Christian means being westernized, now this is cultural identity matter
3. They are absorbed with the habit of some rituals of muslims that by not doing so they would feel loosing something they had hold dearly
4. Taking advantages from both side of the communities.

But still I don’t think that by being muslim they don’t find contradictions with being a follower of Jesus, after all Christian is what we call people who follow Christ.Will they coin a word for that stand as Christlam perhaps…? whoa…whoa…they should better have their own creed, otherwise I don’t think that a creed of islam could describe enough of their faith.

I really really wanted to say that they are coward but who am I to judge people…

 

[Larryx]

The so-called “teachings” of Jesus Christ kept/followed by peopel who call themselves Christians/Christ followers are not reliable. They are subjective, as the historical chain of those so-called “teachings, such as of 4 Canonical Gospels” does not go all the way back to the period/lifetime of Jesus Christ.

As such, Christians ( especially of our era who are divided into countless sects and denominations ) are not really true followers of Christ due to the non-existance of the true/reliable teachings of Jesus Christ. In fact they are followers of UNRELIABLE STORIES/narrations, that are narrated mostly by unknown people.

In this, the question, whether a person can be a Muslim yet a follower of Christ shouldn’t even arise.

Rather the question should be asked: Are Christians ( of any sect or denomination) of our era, true followers of Christ? The answers is : No.

 

[Nine_Two]

The so-called “teachings” of Jesus Christ kept/followed by peopel who call themselves Christians/Christ followers are not reliable. They are subjective, as the historical chain of those so-called “teachings, such as of 4 Canonical Gospels” does not go all the way back to the period/lifetime of Jesus Christ.

As such, Christians ( especially of our era who are divided into countless sects and denominations ) are not really true followers of Christ due to the non-existance of the true/reliable teachings of Jesus Christ. In fact they are followers of UNRELIABLE STORIES/narrations, that are narrated mostly by unknown people.

In this, the question, whether a person can be a Muslim yet a follower of Christ shouldn’t even arise.

Rather the question should be asked: Are Christians ( of any sect or denomination) of our era, true followers of Christ? The answers is : No.

So what’s your source on all this?

And what does “etc” mean?

 

[seraphime2008]

The so-called “teachings” of Jesus Christ kept/followed by peopel who call themselves Christians/Christ followers are not reliable. They are subjective, as the historical chain of those so-called “teachings, such as of 4 Canonical Gospels” does not go all the way back to the period/lifetime of Jesus Christ.

As such, Christians ( especially of our era who are divided into countless sects and denominations ) are not really true followers of Christ due to the non-existance of the true/reliable teachings of Jesus Christ. In fact they are followers of UNRELIABLE STORIES/narrations, that are narrated mostly by unknown people.

In this, the question, whether a person can be a Muslim yet a follower of Christ shouldn’t even arise.

Rather the question should be asked: Are Christians ( of any sect or denomination) of our era, true followers of Christ? The answers is : No.

Ehm…how do you know that all christians of our era are not the true follower of Christ?
Are u the judge of their souls?

 

[Sam_777]

What about being a Muslim but adoring Jesus, believing Jesus, and respecting Jesus more than Muhammed…

 

[Nine_Two]

What about being a Muslim but adoring Jesus, believing Jesus, and respecting Jesus more than Muhammed…

If you don’t believe in the resurection Christians won’t accept you as Christian, if you do, Muslims won’t accept you as part of theirs. Mutually exclusive theology means only one group will identify with you.
Whether you want to try to identify with multiple groups is your business.

 

[swariffin]

What about being a Muslim but adoring Jesus, believing Jesus, and respecting Jesus more than Muhammed…

If you believe in Jesus, follow His teaching, do what He tells you to do, then at the judgement day, Jesus will take you with Him, Sam. See Mat 25:35-40. It does not say anything of having to be a Christian first or being baptised first.

 

[seraphime2008]

What about being a Muslim but adoring Jesus, believing Jesus, and respecting Jesus more than Muhammed…

But when a muslim asks you who you think Jesus is to you? Will you answer to that respected muslim that Jesus is your saviour and your Lord ? or you will keep yourself silent? or you will play taqkiya for the sake of your comfort?
I believe there are verses in the bible said that whoever doesn’t proclaim that Jesus is his savior and Lord, he is not the real follower of Jesus ( I know it doens’t mean proclaiming your self of being christian if christian is only a term of certain sects or denomination of church).

 

[Sam_777]

But when a muslim asks you who you think Jesus is to you? Will you answer to that respected muslim that Jesus is your saviour and your Lord ? or you will keep yourself silent? or you will play taqkiya for the sake of your comfort?

Firstly, no Muslim here in Saudi Arabia would ask me such question, Jesus for them is a prophet of the past.

Secondly, I said, I adore Him, I believe Him, and I respect Him, and I believe that Jesus is GOD’s Word.

Thirdly, until now I pray for God The Most High to show me His true path (directly or indirectly), once that happens, I will convert to Christianity and I might even leave Saudi Arabia altogether.

 

[hamba2han]

If being a Christian means to faithfully follow the teachings of Jesus Christ (pbuh), then there is little doubt that Muslims are indeed the best “Christians” in the world.

To see how Muslims faithfully follow the teachings of Jesus (pbuh), have a look at this thread and all of the related posts as follows:

1, 2, 4, 5, 14, 60, 76, 101, 129, 153, 154

 

[grace_singh]

but the teachings of Jesus in the Quran are really not spelled out at all.

the Isa of the Quran enjoins people to worship Allah, but there is no detail about ethical or spiritual teachings, and no historical context for who Isa was, at least not within the Quran.

i have heard of some converts to Christian faith continuing to live as Muslims. for example, going to the masjid to pray daily, yet praying to God the Father or to Jesus during salah, and reading the Bible at home privately.

 

[schaick]

but the teachings of Jesus in the Quran are really not spelled out at all.

the Isa of the Quran enjoins people to worship Allah, but there is no detail about ethical or spiritual teachings, and no historical context for who Isa was, at least not within the Quran.

i have heard of some converts to Christian faith continuing to live as Muslims. for example, going to the masjid to pray daily, yet praying to God the Father or to Jesus during salah, and reading the Bible at home privately.

Sam_777 has to have the outward appearance of a muslim-his life depends on it. There are underground home churches and Christians in Saudi Arabia. Please be careful and stay safe.

Sam_777 It would be best if you could leave Saudi Arabia. Does your family know about your apostasy from Islam?

 

[Larryx]

Ehm…how do you know that all christians of our era are not the true follower of Christ?

How do I know?
By reading “Holy” books of Christiandom, without preconcieved ideas.

Are u the judge of their souls??

This question arises if today true/reliable teachings of Jesus were indeed in existance. If you have them, produce them to intellectual/critical study/analysis/scrutiny.

 

[dzheremi]

Oh, you mean like we’ve been doing for the past 1000 or so years while Muslims today cannot handle anybody treating the Qur’an with anything other than the greatest of care and deference? Clean your OWN DAMN HOUSE before you dare tell us what to do with our texts, you snake in the grass.

Sorry for all the angries, regular viewers, but I gotta give this one a million thumbs down. I’ve had it up to here with Muslims demanding this or that from others while not following their own advice. Enough already.

 

[seraphime2008]

Firstly, no Muslim here in Saudi Arabia would ask me such question, Jesus for them is a prophet of the past.

Secondly, I said, I adore Him, I believe Him, and I respect Him, and I believe that Jesus is GOD’s Word.

Thirdly, until now I pray for God The Most High to show me His true path (directly or indirectly), once that happens, I will convert to Christianity and I might even leave Saudi Arabia altogether.

I’ll pray for you…Usually the thirstiest one is, the most fulfilled he would get his thirst quenched.

 

[seraphime2008]

How do I know?
By reading “Holy” books of Christiandom, without preconcieved ideas.

This question arises if today true/reliable teachings of Jesus were indeed in existance. If you have them, produce them to intellectual/critical study/analysis/scrutiny.

I am sorry Larryx, but to me you sound…blah…blah…blah…
don’t just jump into the water if you don’t know how to swim!