Muslim friend...need some advice!

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Me and my muslim friend we’re talking tonight. He’s a practicing muslim but he is open to other things and to the possibility of Christianity being true.
He said that he was interested and wanted to read about Catholicism…however, there was one stipulation, he wanted me to read 2 small books about the basic beliefs of Islam, I have no desire to do this but should I do it anyways so he’ll read the Catholic books I give him??

Also, what would be the best Catholicism books for a muslim to read?

Thanks!
 
That he wants you to read these books on the basis of a friendship, shows he isn’t serious about researching Christianity, but simply wants to begin your conversion and planting doubts in your mind. He is bound to try to convert you and expressing interest in Christianity while obliging you to read Muslim books is a clever strategy.
It is wrong to endanger our faith in this way.

However persuasive he is, you would be wise to drop the matter completely. If he wants to research Christianity he can find books and teaching online, in bookstores, and many documents like the Bible and the Catechism of the Catholic Church are available online.
He can find out about Christianity without any help from you if he has a true inclination, but you do realize that Muslims do want to evangelize others to their beliefs. Their book The Qur’an: permits deception and lying as a means to an end and their belief is very sincere. They are of course good people but to deceive is not seen in the same way according to passages in the Qur’an, as a Christian sees it
I hope you are strong enough to resist whatever tactics, and see through them.

May God bless you, and protect and strengthen your faith…
 
It’s a trap!
But sometimes God let’s us fall into the lions’ den to show His glory to those that do not believe.

Pray about it! Let the Bible guide you, too.
 
NorthTexan88,

I agree with Trishie & willofgods, I was thinking of a workaround for that, so start by showing your Muslim friend this documentary film about Jesus and see his reaction then we according to that you can plan your next step:

youtube.com/watch?v=EWYuIe8ftHA

P.S., Probably if you show it on a large TV set, it would be better than the computer.
 
Me and my muslim friend we’re talking tonight. He’s a practicing muslim but he is open to other things and to the possibility of Christianity being true.
He said that he was interested and wanted to read about Catholicism…however, there was one stipulation, he wanted me to read 2 small books about the basic beliefs of Islam, I have no desire to do this but should I do it anyways so he’ll read the Catholic books I give him??

Also, what would be the best Catholicism books for a muslim to read?

Thanks!
Without discounting the advice given by the posters above, I’m not entirely convinced it is a “trap”. Would need more information than is given here to make that determination.
You say, “he … wanted to read about Catholicism”. How did this come up? His suggestion or yours? If yours then I would say that it is not unreasonable for him to wish you, his friend, to know more about where he is coming from. However, if he broached the subject without your bringing it up…that would be different.
That said - the most important - bottom line - is that you are have no desire to read these books and therefore you should not. So be honest with your friend.
I imagine this will lead you into a conversation about why you do not desire to read them…Is your faith weak? Are you afraid, insecure? Or is it possibly that you simply don’t like to feel "pressured?
Do consider this aspect before talking with him so that you might be clear without being offensive.

Peace
James
 
If you aren’t willing to read some of his books, why should he read some of yours?
 
Without discounting the advice given by the posters above, I’m not entirely convinced it is a “trap”. Would need more information than is given here to make that determination.
You say, “he … wanted to read about Catholicism”. How did this come up? His suggestion or yours? If yours then I would say that it is not unreasonable for him to wish you, his friend, to know more about where he is coming from. However, if he broached the subject without your bringing it up…that would be different.
That said - the most important - bottom line - is that you are have no desire to read these books and therefore you should not. So be honest with your friend.
I imagine this will lead you into a conversation about why you do not desire to read them…Is your faith weak? Are you afraid, insecure? Or is it possibly that you simply don’t like to feel "pressured?
Do consider this aspect before talking with him so that you might be clear without being offensive.

Peace
James
He’s the one who brought up reading about Catholicism. I have already told him that I have no real desire to read about Islam and that I already have a basic knowledge of it. Me and him are pretty close friends, I told him that I believed that Islam is a false religion and then explained to him why and this eventually led him to want to read about Catholicism. I think that I am pretty strong in my faith and fairly knowledgable about church history and teachings…one thing though, was muhammad’s family Nestorian? It strange how somewhat simar Islam is to Christianity except it seems distorted I.e their honor of Mary, Gabriel visiting Mary, disbelief of the Trinity. I would like to learn more about this.
 
He’s the one who brought up reading about Catholicism. I have already told him that I have no real desire to read about Islam and that I already have a basic knowledge of it.
This being the case, you are under no obligation to read his books on Islam.
Me and him are pretty close friends, I told him that I believed that Islam is a false religion and then explained to him why and this eventually led him to want to read about Catholicism.
This sounds as though he feels that you both would benefit from reading more about the others faith…
I think that I am pretty strong in my faith and fairly knowledgeable about church history and teachings…
this is good to hear.
one thing though, was muhammad’s family Nestorian? It strange how somewhat simar Islam is to Christianity except it seems distorted I.e their honor of Mary, Gabriel visiting Mary, disbelief of the Trinity. I would like to learn more about this.
Sounds like maybe you need to do some “independent” investigating. 👍

Peace
James
 
Coming from a Mormon background, I always get a little peeved when someone strongly advises against reading about other religions. Have a little faith that your own faith tradition is substantial enough to hold up against a couple Muslim books. If I had maintained a “don’t even take a peek” attitude I would still be Mormon.

If you read these books on Islam and find them convincing then isn’t the worst case scenario that you find a higher truth? Note: I don’t think this will happen as I have read the Koran and other books about Islam and wasn’t convinced.

We should not be so afraid that we refuse to question.
 
Me and my muslim friend we’re talking tonight. He’s a practicing muslim but he is open to other things and to the possibility of Christianity being true.
He said that he was interested and wanted to read about Catholicism…however, there was one stipulation, he wanted me to read 2 small books about the basic beliefs of Islam, I have no desire to do this but should I do it anyways so he’ll read the Catholic books I give him??

Also, what would be the best Catholicism books for a muslim to read?

Thanks!
I think it may be his way of converting you.
 
There are so many resources available that if he is serious he can and will find them without requiring his friend to study his religion. If one is genuine, one does the research. 🙂
And if he is genuine he doesn’t make it a condition for the friend to study his religion.
To ask for reading material and guidance is one thing.
To make it a condition that the other must study his religion speaks of another agenda…
 
Coming from a Mormon background, I always get a little peeved when someone strongly advises against reading about other religions. Have a little faith that your own faith tradition is substantial enough to hold up against a couple Muslim books. If I had maintained a “don’t even take a peek” attitude I would still be Mormon.

If you read these books on Islam and find them convincing then isn’t the worst case scenario that you find a higher truth? Note: I don’t think this will happen as I have read the Koran and other books about Islam and wasn’t convinced.

We should not be so afraid that we refuse to question.
I agree with this…IF the person is so inclined. I’m not crazy about the, “I’ll read yours if you’ll read mine”, type of exchange.

Peace
James
 
Interestingly my Muslim friend of 10 years also requested me to learn about Islam but via a youtube video (this was 2 years ago). Out of the blue today he again asked me to watch it (12 parts including a talk with Karen Armstrong), he forgot that Ive already went through it.

But he’s never asked me about Catholicism.

My feeling is that Muslims are quite proud of their faith and their prophet. .

Anyway, I told him ive already seen it. He didn’t pursue further and Im sure that is because he respects me. Ive gone to his wedding and always open to hear what he has to say.

Funnily it was he who inadvertently made me realize that Catholicism is the one True Faith. 😃

MJ
 
My feeling is that Muslims are quite proud of their faith and their prophet. .
It’s my understanding that they are all supposed to evangelize the message of their prophet, so I’m not terribly surprised. I wouldn’t expect many Christians that come to me to evangelize to be at all interested in what I had to say, why should he be any different?
 
I think it depends on your understanding of your Faith. If you are pretty well versed in Catholicism then i would say sure.

They are pretty sensitive to any criticism of their “prophet” so I would stay clear of anything polemic.

I gave a Protestant friend a copy of “the Following of Christ” by Gerard Groot. It is a devotional book but he loved it!

Something simple but profound would be nice.

“Radio Replies” books might be good even though they are in 3 volumes they answer almost all the question and makes it easy and fun–although they are polemic

Maybe “Life of Christ” by Fulton sheen
 
Me and my muslim friend we’re talking tonight. He’s a practicing muslim but he is open to other things and to the possibility of Christianity being true.
He said that he was interested and wanted to read about Catholicism…however, there was one stipulation, he wanted me to read 2 small books about the basic beliefs of Islam, I have no desire to do this but should I do it anyways so he’ll read the Catholic books I give him??

Also, what would be the best Catholicism books for a muslim to read?

Thanks!
Its only fair that you take his faith seriously if you want him to take your faith seriously, otherwise it will appear as if you are insecure about something. Not only that, it will also appear a bit disrespectful. You can say that you are not interested, but then you are giving him an excuse not to be interested in what you have to say about your beliefs.

Other than that I cannot answer your Questions directly. However I created the following argument after reading your post…
  1. God alone necessarily exists and thus creation is entirely dependent on the existence of God, for there is no other way for creation to exist by itself.
  2. An act of creation is an act sharing, and an act of sharing is fundamentally an act of love, for there is no other good reason for God to create anything other than himself. If God were to create for selfish reasons, then this would contradict the idea that God is good and would mean that God is not perfect.
  3. Since God cannot be imperfect, it therefore follows that God cannot be potentially other than what he fundamentally is. Therefore to love is Gods nature, and never changes. We know this to be true because God cannot be the antithesis of love, since any action that is not love is selfish and therefore an imperfection.
  4. God does everything that is good and thus everything that is possible in the context of goodness. The good that he does is only divided or delayed by context and content.
  5. The act of creation (sharing existence) is only one core aspect of love. If God is love, than he does everything that is true of love in respect of his nature.
  6. Sacrifice is another core aspect of love.
  7. Therefore in some way shape or form the act of sacrifice will necessarily become actual when the opportunity presents itself.
  8. For God, a true sacrifice can only become actual if he is giving up something of himself for the greater good of another person or persons.
  9. In a world full of sin the opportunity for sacrifice arises.
  10. Perfection in and of itself and by itself has nothing to give up. The greatest sacrifice is giving up your life for the greater good of your friends. But for God, it is metaphysically impossible for him to give up his life because God is a non-physical perfect being. If it were possible, God would cease to exist, which would mean that God is not a perfect being.
  11. However, human-beings can perform the greatest sacrifice because they can lose the good that is their physical form.
  12. This would suggest that we have a dilemma insofar as Gods nature is concerned. Nevertheless, if we accept that God is good and therefore loving, it follows logically that we cannot speak of God as being unable to make sacrifices for his friends when such a good is needed and is necessary; since this would imply that God has an imperfection (a contingent limit to how much he can love us); and thus his creative act of love is imperfect and even less perfect than the human ability to love!!!
  13. It therefore cannot be the case that humans can love more than God, and it cannot be the case that God cannot sacrifice his life for the good of his creation.
  14. The only way out of this dilemma is to suggest that God can be born a human without contradicting Gods intrinsic nature. While difficulty will arise in trying to understand how such a thing is possible, this nevertheless must be the case; otherwise, insofar as God is love, God would be imperfect and therefore a perfectly good God would not exist. As far as I understand an imperfection in God is unacceptable for both Christian and Muslims.
  15. New American Standard Bible John 1:14
And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us, and we saw His glory, glory as of the only begotten from the Father, full of grace and truth.

Conclusion: The above argument is not direct evidence that Jesus Christ of the apostles is the true word made flesh. However it does seem to prove by reductio ad absurdum that Gods love has or will become flesh through necessity of the fact that God is love when given the context of sin.

Also the fact that it is logically in Gods nature to become incarnate for the sake of a great sacrifice, and the fact that Christians by faith report this to have already happened according to the apostles, is not something to be scoffed at. It is something that a Muslim should take very seriously because it contradicts the belief that God has no Son or that it is not possible for a human-being to be both a physical person and divine at the same time.

Sacrifice in the form of Jesus Christ is greater than any human sacrifice in the sense that the loving holy and divine being we call Jesus allowed himself to be humiliated, beaten, and killed by his enemies so that we could all be saved from sin.

Nuff said.
 
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