Muslim friends... We will NOT convert...

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Paarsurrey,
You definantly do have a lot of energy…
But for your benefit, and Ham’s and any other muslim here…
I will share something with you…

NICENE CREED

We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
**We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, **eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: **by the power of the Holy Spirit **he was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and he became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried.
**On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; **he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.

Now I hope after reading this, you will get the jist of what im trying to do…
We love being catholics, and that will NEVER change!
Amen!
 
Why are muslims foolish enough to worship a guy who raped kids?
 
dolphinlove said:
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
**We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, **eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: **by the power of the Holy Spirit **he was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and he became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong, that is your right, no compulsion. You need not convert if you don’t understand.
Nevertheless I have told you, that to me with reasonable and rational arguments:
  1. Jesus did not die on cross.
    2.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his resurrrection from the dead.
    3.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his being God or Son of God.
    4.He never ascended to heavens, or sat on the right hand of God.
    5.He died a natural and respectful death in Siringagr,Kashmir, India where he lived among lost tribes of the House Of Israel.
    This is very reasonable.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
    The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
    GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
dolphinlove said:
We believe in one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is seen and unseen.
**We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, **eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father. Through him all things were made.
For us and for our salvation he came down from heaven: **by the power of the Holy Spirit **he was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, and he became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate; he suffered death and was buried.
On the third day he rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; he ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.
We believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father and the Son.
With the Father and the Son he is worshipped and glorified.
He has spoken through the Prophets.
We believe in one holy catholic and apostolic Church.
We acknowledge one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.
We look for the resurrection of the dead, and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong, that is your right, no compulsion. You need not convert if you don’t understand.
Nevertheless I have told you, that to me with reasonable and rational arguments:
  1. Jesus did not die on cross.
    2.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his resurrrection from the dead.
    3.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his being God or Son of God.
    4.He never ascended to heavens, or sat on the right hand of God.
    5.He died a natural and respectful death in Siringagr,Kashmir, India where he lived among lost tribes of the House Of Israel.
    This is very reasonable.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
    The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
    GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong, that is your right, no compulsion. You need not convert if you don’t understand.
Nevertheless I have told you, that to me with reasonable and rational arguments:
  1. Jesus did not die on cross.
    2.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his resurrrection from the dead.
    3.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his being God or Son of God.
    4.He never ascended to heavens, or sat on the right hand of God.
    5.He died a natural and respectful death in Siringagr,Kashmir, India where he lived among lost tribes of the House Of Israel.
    This is very reasonable.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
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Records outside our Bible show that Jesus DID, indeed, die at the hands of the Romans. He was crucified.
Records outside our Bible show that Jesus WAS SEEN by hundreds of MEN (not counting women and children) AFTER He died and was buried. The Romans knew what they was doing. They killed Him.

I have to ask you, is Jesus a prophet to you?
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kujo313 said:
I have to ask you, is Jesus a prophet to you?
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Hi
Yes, he was a truthful ProphetMessenger of God, neither a literal Son of God nor God. This is why I believe that he did not and could not die a cursed death on Cross. He was delivered from cross in a neardead position, laid in a tomb ( not buried in a grave) for treatment of his injuries, when he gained consciousness he came out of the tomb. From Galilee alongwith his mother Mary he went in search of the lost tribes of house of Israel who were living in the East. He died a peaceful and respectful death in Sirinagar, Kashmir, India and is buried there. To have a glimpse of all these things kindly view the following:
tombofjesus.com/

Did Jesus die on the Cross? A BBC documentary
video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669658378154953060&q
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong, that is your right, no compulsion. You need not convert if you don’t understand.
Nevertheless I have told you, that to me with reasonable and rational arguments:
  1. Jesus did not die on cross.
    2.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his resurrrection from the dead.
    3.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his being God or Son of God.
    4.He never ascended to heavens, or sat on the right hand of God.
    5.He died a natural and respectful death in Siringagr,Kashmir, India where he lived among lost tribes of the House Of Israel.
    This is very reasonable.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
    The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
    GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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As a catholic I beleive that;
  1. Mohammed was a false prophet, fullfilling Jesus’s own revelation. “BEWARE OF THE FALSE PROPHETS”
  2. Muslims are no closer to God then athiests or communists
  3. Since islam rejects Jesus as being the Son of God, they are considered anti-christs, because the death and resurrection of Jesus gives true meaning to the catholic church and our existence.
This i consider to be very reasonable
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong, that is your right, no compulsion.You need not convert if you don’t understand.
No compulsion???Come on!! You’re having a laugh.You are surely not saying that catholics are not discriminated against in Islamic countries.Just watch them rampage around the public squares in my country when there has been any slight against Islam.They wouldn’t do that in their country of origin,in case they get a few hundred lashes.
If i visit one of these countries,i cannot drink alcohol,even though i am not encouraging any of the locals to do so.In the UK i notice
Asian shops selling alcohol and they don’t close their shops to run to the mosque.I wonder,if Islamists ever become the majority in the UK,will these Asians be able to think for themselves and
not be compelled to refrain from selling alcohol,even to those amongst us who only have a problem with drunkenness,not the alcohol itself.After all,you do not ban food because some people
are greedy.
I have read books which were not catholic orientated,but i doubt very much if people in Islamic countries would be allowed to read
a book which taught anything other than Islam.People who persist
in following christianity could be killed.Or,is it a case of being ostracised?
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paarsurrey said:
Hi
He was delivered from cross in a neardead position, laid in a tomb ( not buried in a grave) for treatment of his injuries, when he gained consciousness he came out of the tomb.
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Let’s put it in today’s terms:

Jesus was beaten near death. He was nailed to a cross with nails through his wrists and feet. His legs didn’t need to be broken, as to bring death faster, because the guards said he was already dead…

IF Jesus survived the beatings and crucification, HOW many days would it take for him to recover and come out of the tomb? In today’s terms, Jesus would be in an “intensive care unit” for weeks and hospitalized for months even with today’s advanced medicines and technology.

For Jesus to be in a tomb until he recovered would be very unlikely.
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paarsurrey said:
Hi
You may continue believing the above, even if it is proved wrong,
that is your right, no compulsion. You need not convert if you don’t understand.
Nevertheless I have told you, that to me with reasonable and rational arguments:
  1. Jesus did not die on cross.
    2.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his resurrrection from the dead.
    3.Since he did not die on Cross so there is no question of his being God or Son of God.
    4.He never ascended to heavens, or sat on the right hand of God.
    5.He died a natural and respectful death in Siringagr,Kashmir, India where he lived among lost tribes of the House Of Israel.
    This is very reasonable.
    Thanks
    I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
    The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
    GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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My one answer to this is…
Your so wrong!!! I hope you have fun explaining to Jesus why you think of him as a mere prophet!!
God Bless you Paasurrey and may he lead you to the TRUTH and help this veil of lies you currently believe in be removed from your life.
 
dolphinlove said:
God Bless you Paasurrey .
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Hi
May GodAllahYHWH bless you also.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
kujo313 said:
Let’s put it in today’s terms:

Jesus was beaten near death. He was nailed to a cross with nails through his wrists and feet. His legs didn’t need to be broken, as to bring death faster, because the guards said he was already dead…

IF Jesus survived the beatings and crucification, HOW many days would it take for him to recover and come out of the tomb? In today’s terms, Jesus would be in an “intensive care unit” for weeks and hospitalized for months even with today’s advanced medicines and technology.

For Jesus to be in a tomb until he recovered would be very unlikely.
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Dont forget, he apparently went all the way to India and ‘supposedly’ died of natural causes.
I wonder how a man could possibly get all the way there from Israel after being lashed, beaten and stabbed (mind you, he was stabbed to prove he was DEAD) all the way to India??? and then die AGAIN of natural causes???
Gosh, I better now go on, the writers of Days of our lives will be lapping this up!!!
In all seriousness though, Muslims totally miss the point of why Jesus died on the cross for us and why God sacrificed his only son for us, if they did, they will quickly convert to Catholicism.
I pray for them.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
May GodAllahYHWH bless you also.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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It is so easy to see through the lies of Islam,
Jesus said it the best, “they look like sheep on the outside, but on the inside they are realy like wolves”.
 
pawel15 said:
Jesus said it the best, “they look like sheep on the outside, but on the inside they are realy like wolves”.
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Hi
May GodAllahYHWH bless you also!
You might like to read
alislam.org/books/
Introduction to the Study of The Holy Quran (English)
This might remove all you misgivings about peaceful Muhammad/Quran/Islam. No compulsion.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
May GodAllahYHWH bless you also!
You might like to read
alislam.org/books/
Introduction to the Study of The Holy Quran (English)
This might remove all you misgivings about peaceful Muhammad/Quran/Islam. No compulsion.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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Paarsurrey,
Im not mocking you here, but i want to know, have you read the bible?
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
May GodAllahYHWH bless you also!
You might like to read
alislam.org/books/
Introduction to the Study of The Holy Quran (English)
This might remove all you misgivings about peaceful Muhammad/Quran/Islam. No compulsion.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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Why would i want to go onto a website that is obviously biased.
 
paarsurrey is incapable of debate and unable to defend his/her own beliefs.

You still haven’t told me why muhammed needed to act like a marauding thug and take 13 year old kids as wives paarsurrey…
 
JW_Annihilator said:
paarsurrey is incapable of debate and unable to defend his/her own beliefs.

You still haven’t told me why muhammed needed to act like a marauding thug and take 13 year old kids as wives paarsurrey…
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Umm. thats a 6 year old bride and consummed the marriage at 9.
 
pawel15 said:
Why would i want to go onto a website that is obviously biased.
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Hi
How could you say about a source that you have never been to as a biased website?
Kindly read the book suggested by me and then prove that it is biased one. You may select anyone point/event mentioned in it ’ giving the full quote’ as a test and prove it wrong or biased on reasonable , rational and logical arguments, however no compulsion.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
 
paarsurrey said:
Hi
How could you say about a source that you have never been to as a biased website?
Kindly read the book suggested by me and then prove that it is biased one. You may select anyone point/event mentioned in it ’ giving the full quote’ as a test and prove it wrong or biased on reasonable , rational and logical arguments, however no compulsion.
Thanks
I am an Ahmadi – a peaceful faith in Islam bridging gaps between faiths/denominations/religions/agnostics
The West, as I understand, due to certain disinformation has seen only MullahIslam or MullahShariah; the true face of Muhammad’sIslam and PromisedMessiahImamMahdi’sIslam is yet hidden from their eyes, which is truly speaking only peaceful.
GodAllahYHWH is All-Knowing; one should invariably give Claim and Reason on all important issues from one’s Revealed Book; one shouldn’t try putting one’s own words into God’s mouth.
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Paarsurrey,
The devil tried to test Jesus with several things, we dont need to be tested. We trust in Jesus the SON of God and believe everything he shown us.
Peace be with you Paarsurrey
 
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