Muslim propaganda event at my school

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Well, this just kind of struck my fancy and I wanted to make some points about these kind of events… so here goes. This is being hosted at my school. Certain names were omitted to protect the “innocent”, and all that…
Hello Everyone ,
The MSA is hosting a Q&A session With Sheik xxxx as the Speaker.
The topic is: ISLAM and its misconceptions.
This EVENT is primarily geared toward people of other faith who have question about ISLAM.
Please try to bring as many people as possible to this event. This is a rare opportunity for those who have questions.
And it is our Job to expose ISLAM to WHO is looking for it!!!
Also we will be advertising for this event outside the xxxx on xxxx From xxxx.
Please come out between classes and hang out with us.
(-:JUST FOR SUPPORT:-)
REMEMBER we are having a MOVIE event in the xxxx next xxxx and we need to fill up 400 seats, so the more people you bring to this event the more we can advertise for the movie 😦 Muhammad: Legacy of a Prophet)
Thank you
-The MSA Council
TIME: xxxx
Location: xxxx
MESSAGE FOR PEOPLE OF OTHER FAITHS:
Come and ask questions from a Qualified personality who
actually knows something about ISLAM!!
Sheik xxxx is well known Scholar who has written many articles and published many writings. He has studied Religion in the East as well as the West.
This is a Special MSA EVENT Designed for people who are wondering what Exactly ISLAM is about. NO question is too harsh as long as it is asked in a politefull manner.
Thank you
-The MSA Council
 
Well, this just kind of struck my fancy and I wanted to make some points about these kind of events… so here goes. This is being hosted at my school. Certain names were omitted to protect the “innocent”, and all that…
Hi

The dialogue between the Muslims and the Catholics is always welcome. Let us pray that the event produces harmony and peace between both the communities. I think you should attend the event if convenient.

Thanks
 
LOL that sad face you see just happened to emerge from the characters they used… hilarious…

Anyway, the first thing I notice is the terrible grammar and frequent mis-spellings. Whoever wrote this thing is probably a foreigner, and the tone of the whole thing sounds like one of the long-winded monologues we sometimes see from certain Islamic apologists even on this forum. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Here, for example:

Come and ask questions from a Qualified personality who
actually knows something about ISLAM!!


The guy actually knows something about Islam! A rare gem indeed! :rolleyes: The typical “all you stupid kafirs are so ignorant about Islam… because we SAID SO” mentality quickly rears its ugly head.

Then there’s this… You’d think a solid defense of what they sincerely believe to be a logical belief system would be enough “support”, but noo… as always Muslims have to find their strength in potential use of peer pressure:

Please come out between classes and hang out with us.
(-:JUST FOR SUPPORT:-)


Below are the only concrete (albeit vague) qualifications that are mentioned… they’re trying to build up the guy’s image already, but what’s the point. Anyone who looks at this objectively would realize that someone with these exact same qualifications and yet was anti-Islam would get looked down upon by these people as “ignorant” or “hateful”:

Sheik xxxx is well known Scholar who has written many articles and published many writings. He has studied Religion in the East as well as the West.

And yeah, we’ve all seen this before. “politefull” must mean you can’t ask a question that they don’t want to answer, even if it’s a perfectly legitimate question. If you do, they will quickly brand you a “liar” or a “racist” (even though Islam isn’t a race at all, beats me why they always do this). What do you think this guy’s going to answer when somebody asks whether or not Islam proscribes the execution of apostates? hmmm

This is a Special MSA EVENT Designed for people who are wondering what Exactly ISLAM is about. NO question is too harsh as long as it is asked in a politefull manner.

Okay I’ve blown off a little frustration here… but seriously, what do you guys think? I’m wondering specifically if you think propaganda events like this actually manage to convince or even lightly sway anyone who was previously ignorant about Islam. It all seemed pretty transparent to me, even when I didn’t know too much about Islam. But I don’t know if that’s the typical impression people get. Maybe this is all harmless in the long-run (and I hope so) but could events like this possibly have an effect if those who know better continue to see them as a joke and look the other way?
 
paarsurrey,

I haven’t decided for sure -not- to go, but I will have to admit it doesn’t seem very likely that I would. What would be the major opportunity for me in hearing this?
 
Hi

The dialogue between the Muslims and the Catholics is always welcome. Let us pray that the event produces harmony and peace between both the communities. I think you should attend the event if convenient.

Thanks
By harmony you mean you guys speak and we guys agree.
 
paarsurrey,

I haven’t decided for sure -not- to go, but I will have to admit it doesn’t seem very likely that I would. What would be the major opportunity for me in hearing this?
We had a woman’s advocacy group come to our workplace on lunchtime - they were two Moslem women who wanted to speak about all the misconceptions about being a woman in Islam.

They were invited by an atheist woman who works where I work

I couldn’t go, 'cause it was only open for female employees.
 
We had a woman’s advocacy group come to our workplace on lunchtime - they were two Moslem women who wanted to speak about all the misconceptions about being a woman in Islam.

They were invited by an atheist woman who works where I work

I couldn’t go, 'cause it was only open for female employees.
Heck, you missed out a chance to ask one of the Muslim (Not Moslem) ladies out for diner, hey what is with this thread an way…Muslim propaganda sounds like the communist days all over here again…?
 
Heck, you missed out a chance to ask one of the Muslim (Not Moslem) ladies out for diner,
I’d hate to see her family accuse her of being a whore for doing so, or a fiance throwing acid on her face.
hey what is with this thread an way…Muslim propaganda sounds like the communist days all over here again…?
More like the Nazi days.
 
LOL that sad face you see just happened to emerge from the characters they used… hilarious…

Anyway, the first thing I notice is the terrible grammar and frequent mis-spellings. Whoever wrote this thing is probably a foreigner, and the tone of the whole thing sounds like one of the long-winded monologues we sometimes see from certain Islamic apologists even on this forum. The whole thing leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Here, for example:

***Come and ask questions from a Qualified personality who ***
actually knows something about ISLAM!!

The guy actually knows something about Islam! A rare gem indeed! :rolleyes: The typical “all you stupid kafirs are so ignorant about Islam… because we SAID SO” mentality quickly rears its ugly head.

Then there’s this… You’d think a solid defense of what they sincerely believe to be a logical belief system would be enough “support”, but noo… as always Muslims have to find their strength in potential use of peer pressure:

***Please come out between classes and hang out with us. ***
(-:JUST FOR SUPPORT:-)

Below are the only concrete (albeit vague) qualifications that are mentioned… they’re trying to build up the guy’s image already, but what’s the point. Anyone who looks at this objectively would realize that someone with these exact same qualifications and yet was anti-Islam would get looked down upon by these people as “ignorant” or “hateful”:

Sheik xxxx is well known Scholar who has written many articles and published many writings. He has studied Religion in the East as well as the West.

And yeah, we’ve all seen this before. “politefull” must mean you can’t ask a question that they don’t want to answer, even if it’s a perfectly legitimate question. If you do, they will quickly brand you a “liar” or a “racist” (even though Islam isn’t a race at all, beats me why they always do this). What do you think this guy’s going to answer when somebody asks whether or not Islam proscribes the execution of apostates? hmmm

This is a Special MSA EVENT Designed for people who are wondering what Exactly ISLAM is about. NO question is too harsh as long as it is asked in a politefull manner.

Okay I’ve blown off a little frustration here… but seriously, what do you guys think? I’m wondering specifically if you think propaganda events like this actually manage to convince or even lightly sway anyone who was previously ignorant about Islam. It all seemed pretty transparent to me, even when I didn’t know too much about Islam. But I don’t know if that’s the typical impression people get. Maybe this is all harmless in the long-run (and I hope so) but could events like this possibly have an effect if those who know better continue to see them as a joke and look the other way?
What they will do is paint a very pretty picture of Islam instead of the reality!

Vickie
 
I’d take the qu’ran and the specific part where it states it’s okay to beat one’s wife, and ask it in a “politefull” manner and see what he says.
 
hmm I see our anonymous one-star rating troll is still hard at work…
 
I think propaganda events like this are worrisome because people who don’t know any better will hear about it and assume that the speaker has some kind of legitimacy, but they won’t bother to investigate what they actually said. Not to mention the fact that exoflare is right, these things are moderated in such a way that doesn’t allow for any actual meaningful questions.
I couldn’t go, 'cause it was only open for female employees.
We had a similar event at the hospital I used to work at, except it was a racial tolerance seminar with mandatory attendance for all white employees. Non-white employees were not required to attend, and none did. It was two hours of some black woman telling us how innately racist we all were, and how guilty we should feel about it.
 
We had a similar event at the hospital I used to work at, except it was a racial tolerance seminar with mandatory attendance for all white employees. Non-white employees were not required to attend, and none did. It was two hours of some black woman telling us how innately racist we all were, and how guilty we should feel about it.
Right on… it’s the exact same thing. No meaningful discussion - only attempts to push one big collective guilt trip down the throats of anyone who (gasp) dares to question the supremacy of Islam.
 
Right on… it’s the exact same thing. No meaningful discussion - only attempts to push one big collective guilt trip down the throats of anyone who (gasp) dares to question the supremacy of Islam.
**The basic tenant of Islam is to reason, apply common sense and within the confounds of fear and love of God, if someone does understand something about Islam then there is no problem to ask and ask lots different folks who are learned and able to answer these questions, just as in the medicine field one should always get a second opinion but I would not sum up the way you have put it.

No body is forcing down anybody’s throat anything and I must add that was not a fair statement. but never the less, I welcome your opinion in good spirit.**
 
PAX

My 2 Cents; and that all its worth…
  • They have a Right to meet & express their view under the US Constitution.
  • You may not agree with their view point, but you have the right to ask them question also… A free country…
  • They have a God given right of “Free Will” to accept or deny His Callings…
  • You are not the Judge or Jury, but only voice to plant seeds, explain view, and provide your information.
  • Propaganda – is an extreme overkill word for this event. Since you negativity used the Def#2… Which anyone can use as for any situation just because you disagree??? WHY?
  • Def; 1- Publicity information put out by an organization or government to promote a policy, idea, or cause….
  • Def; 2 - Publicity deceptive or distorted information that is systematically spread…
  • This event was not set up as a DEBATE!
  • A Q/A session is just that; Ask a Question get a Answer – Simple
  • Debates have rules, guidelines, format, Time limits, boundaries….
  • How many other Q/A events have you seen that the answers given, you didn’t agree with… Just turn on the TV to find that out…
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We have a Call to be like the Saints, like St Benedict & St Francis, and follow in their footsteps of Humility, Peace and prayer. Jesus gave us the Beatitudes and the fruits & Gifts of the Spirit, the great commandments, and how to pray to Our Father… it did not include stoning our neighbor…
 
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