Muslims and Catholics today...

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Valke2 said:
Of course muslims have revere Mary more than Jews. Mary means nothing to us.
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I did not ask the Jewish perspective, since we all know what it is on this one and on so many other things.

But thanks for your 2 cents that I did not ask for. Am I 2 cents richer now?

Hmmm…
 
meedo said:
Hello ,

Yes The Holy Spirit is Gabriel,

There is nothing called impregnanted with God . Even humans dnt impregnate. The '‘blowing’ action is symbolic to the permission for life to be inserted into the body .

Example : Adam. God blew into Adam from his soul and adam became a living human instead of a piece of Mud.

The soul is a property of God. God can delegate his messengers to control it. Like the angel of Death. He collects the souls. ''BY the Permission of God ‘’ . Now the angel of death when a mom looses her child in her womb godforbidding for any reason he cannot be called an abortionist!! So does Gabriel when he command a soul to be created into Mary woumb he is not ‘‘impregnating her’’ It is a fulfilment of a commandement of God .

just a note: Islam doesnt teach that Gabriel blew into Mary’s private parts!!. The word ‘‘Farj’’ in arabic refers also to the general meaning of Chastisy. God created jesus without any need to pass by any gentitals !!!

hope i clarified .

thanks
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Catholics do not teach that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. Gabriel is an angel therefore not God. If you want to put forth that God the Holy Spirit is an angel or lesser entity, you need to visit the Mormon forums. The godness of angels is in their theology, not ours.
Hope this helps clarify things a bit.
 
Damascus said:
I did not ask the Jewish perspective, since we all know what it is on this one and on so many other things.

But thanks for your 2 cents that I did not ask for. Am I 2 cents richer now?

Hmmm…
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you’re welcome. I’ll talke the opportunity to thank you for all the posts you’ve made that I didn’t ask for as well.
 
tequilamac said:
Catholics do not teach that the Holy Spirit is Gabriel. Gabriel is an angel therefore not God. If you want to put forth that God the Holy Spirit is an angel or lesser entity, you need to visit the Mormon forums. The godness of angels is in their theology, not ours.
Hope this helps clarify things a bit.
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I am not saying the Holy spirit is God. The Holy spirit is a creation of God just like me and you. We have no Godness of angels in Islam . Thanks for clarification.

Meedo
 
meedo said:
I am not saying the Holy spirit is God. The Holy spirit is a creation of God just like me and you. We have no Godness of angels in Islam . Thanks for clarification.

Meedo
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The Holy Spirit is NOT a creation of God just like me and you. There is God the Father, uncreated, unmade, there is God the Son, uncreated, unmade, and God the Holy Spirit, uncreated and unmade. And then there is me and you. Created and made. Creatures.
Unless you understand the Trinity, you will not understand the Incarnation upon which all understanding rests. You will spend your time uselessly wondering how a mere angel breathed life into a mere human being and getting no where.
 
tequilamac said:
The Holy Spirit is NOT a creation of God just like me and you. There is God the Father, uncreated, unmade, there is God the Son, uncreated, unmade, and God the Holy Spirit, uncreated and unmade. And then there is me and you. Created and made. Creatures.
Unless you understand the Trinity, you will not understand the Incarnation upon which all understanding rests. You will spend your time uselessly wondering how a mere angel breathed life into a mere human being and getting no where.
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I guess in that point we differ. Thanks for your clarification.

Meedo
 
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