"Muslims are not like christians who accept insult to their religion"

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Muslims are not like Christians because they worship a false god. I believe Islam to be the most serious threat that the world has ever known. Instead of spreading love and truth, they spread violence and bloodshed. Any religion that teaches children to blow themselves up is no better than any of the other pagan, false, replusive religions that have existed from time to time.
It is an obscenity to watch these lunatics jumping around with socks over their head, carrying weapons, hiding behind women and children, hiding in schools, hospital, using civilians as sacrifical animals and interested in nothing by death. How can any rational human being convince themselves that their god wants them to take a sweet, innocent little boy, strap bombs onto him and have him blown to bits in the name of a dead god?
Even worse is that the parents are so brainwashed that they actually think the suicide of their son is somehow a good thing. It is an absolute evil, replusive, sickening, and enough to turn the stomach of any rational being. By the way, if it is such a wonderful thing why aren’t the children of these lunatics “leaders” used as cannon fodder? No, THEY send THEIR kids to good universities–even in the United States. With them it’s do as I say, not as I do. Arafat’s kid lives in luxury in Paris. Don’t you people get it!!
I will say tho, that what in the name of God is the United States doing in the Middle East? Those people hate us and that’s fine. But we need to take our dumb butts out of that part of the world, along with ALL of our foreign aid since the money goes to the corrupt leaders instead of the poor people that need it. We also need to withdraw ALL aid from Israel. Those people have been fighting for centuries, and don’t want our so-called “democracy.” I don’ blame them either. I think a Christian Monarchy would be the best form of government. That would allow everyone to practice their religion in freedom, Muslims included. But I’m realistic and know that will never happen.
To all in Islam I pray for your conversion to the One True God, Jesus Christ who is the way, the truth and the life. I wish no harm on any single indiviudal in the entire world, you practice your religion and I’ll practice mine. What’s so difficult about that? Live and let live. I would imagine that the majority of Muslims in the world just want peace, security, education for their children, happiness and the essentials of a civilized life. I pray for that.

Jesus Christ said to pray for our enemies, so I pray for their conversion from their pagan, false religion to the ONLY way for salvation–faith in Jesus Christ, Son and Savior.
 
in·sult in súlt ]

verb (past and past participle in·sult·ed, present participle in·sult·ing, 3rd person present singular in·sults)

Definition:
  1. transitive and intransitive verb be offensive to somebody: to say or do something rude or insensitive that offends somebody
  2. transitive verb show contempt for somebody or something: to say or do something that suggests a low opinion of somebody or something
    Don’t insult me by offering me pity.
noun (plural in·sults)

Definition:
  1. offensive words or action: a remark or action that offends somebody, usually because it is rude or insensitive
  2. something showing contempt: a remark or action that suggests a low opinion of somebody or something
    The article is an insult to the intelligence of the reader.
    The fee they offered was an insult.
  3. medicine injury or cause of injury: an injury or trauma to the body, or something that causes such harm
[Mid-16th century. Via French < Latin insultare, literally “keep jumping on” < salire “to jump”]

in·sult·er noun

Word Usage

Insults

English has insulting words for most races and cultures with which its speakers have come into extended contact, and for so-called minority groups within English-speaking societies, even though such groups can and do constitute demographic majorities in many regions. When the people insulted are English speakers, the insulting words can and often do become part of their own vocabulary. Those insulted will generally avoid using these terms in interaction with their insulters, since to do so would be to endorse the insulters’ view of them. However, among themselves they may well deliberately adopt an insult in order to subvert it or rob it of its power. For instance, Australian Aboriginals reportedly are not averse to using terms like Abo and blackfella when talking with one another, even though they are highly offensive when applied to them by non-Aboriginals. Similarly, other groups may defy their detractors by adopting the insults directed at them: gay people may refer to themselves, polemically, as queer, as in Queer Nation; and some feminists have struck back against ageist putdowns by reclaiming crone and making it their own.
 
BelFarfalla said:
Why do you think that the Shia don’t believe this. It is a basic tenent of Islam. Shia have the same law.
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I actually edited my post, because I wasn’t sure of this. I’ll have to do some research for this.
 
QuietTimes said:
in·sult in súlt ]

verb (past and past participle in·sult·ed, present participle in·sult·ing, 3rd person present singular in·sults)

Definition:
  1. transitive and intransitive verb be offensive to somebody: to say or do something rude or insensitive that offends somebody
  2. transitive verb show contempt for somebody or something: to say or do something that suggests a low opinion of somebody or something
    Don’t insult me by offering me pity.
noun (plural in·sults)

Definition:
  1. offensive words or action: a remark or action that offends somebody, usually because it is rude or insensitive
  2. something showing contempt: a remark or action that suggests a low opinion of somebody or something
    The article is an insult to the intelligence of the reader.
    The fee they offered was an insult.
  3. medicine injury or cause of injury: an injury or trauma to the body, or something that causes such harm
[Mid-16th century. Via French < Latin insultare, literally “keep jumping on” < salire “to jump”]

in·sult·er noun

Word Usage

Insults

English has insulting words for most races and cultures with which its speakers have come into extended contact, and for so-called minority groups within English-speaking societies, even though such groups can and do constitute demographic majorities in many regions. When the people insulted are English speakers, the insulting words can and often do become part of their own vocabulary. Those insulted will generally avoid using these terms in interaction with their insulters, since to do so would be to endorse the insulters’ view of them. However, among themselves they may well deliberately adopt an insult in order to subvert it or rob it of its power. For instance, Australian Aboriginals reportedly are not averse to using terms like Abo and blackfella when talking with one another, even though they are highly offensive when applied to them by non-Aboriginals. Similarly, other groups may defy their detractors by adopting the insults directed at them: gay people may refer to themselves, polemically, as queer, as in Queer Nation; and some feminists have struck back against ageist putdowns by reclaiming crone and making it their own.
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look ,something that isnt based on belief ,like some christians dont believe prophet muhammad ,they say he is false prophet ,that isnt an insult ,but if you made laugh of him then yes you must be ,anyway nothing i can do for you except asking allah to guide you
 
eleonardo said:
I actually edited my post, because I wasn’t sure of this. I’ll have to do some research for this.
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A couple of years ago an Iranian Muslim converted to Christianity. They were going to execute him for apostacy. I think he repented to save his lifel. Poor guy.
 
ahmadhassan said:
here is what my religion say and what i would do (if i can)
islamqa.com/index.php?ref=22809&ln=eng
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It is outlooks such as this that leads to the “I see your one fatwah and raise you one Crusade” mentality. Given the military superiority of the West, it should become self-evident that this is a long-term proscription for the eradication of Islam.

The popular misconception – pushed by Islamic apologists and bought by the Western media – is that Islam is a religion of peace, and that violence done is only the actions of “a few.”

Few is a subjective word. Of some billion-plus muslims – according to more than one study – at least 15% support that view in principle, some 40+% don’t fully agree, but dislike the West (for historical colonialistic reasons, among others). So there are 150 million who agree in principle, with another 400 or more million who have no reason to like the West. This provides a fertile ground of some 550+ million for the bin Ladens of the world to sow and reap a harvest.

Given that many Islamic countries are poor, offer little economic or social advancement for its citizens, and many are theocratrically-based and ideologically-driven who sponsor the predominently young, misguided muslim youths, it provides ample volunteers for martyrdom.

Hardly a matter of a few, it is a real and present danger of which the leaders of the West are cognizant.

Calls to violence in Islam will only be met by violence by Western states for their own international security (which, let’s face it, are driven predominently by economics and not altruism). The long-term impact among non-muslims is that Islam will be faced with losing what little sympathy they have in the West.

So, go ahead and up the ante, buying into the violence pot. The bluff will be called and, unfortunately, at a very tragic human cost. Better to fix your house than to throw stones at your neighbor’s.
 
QuietTimes said:
My question is this why do they initially deny this when confronted with this question? As the thread goes on then the truth really comes out. Does it usually take them this long?
I am just curious. :confused:

Or else they just dont answer.
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Islam allows for lying when it suits their purpose. It is illegal to lie under Shari’ah law as long as the outcome of the lie is legal to obtain. If telling the truth will be an obstacle to obtaining what is legal to obtain, the lying to sanctioned and even preferred. So for example converting people to Islam is legal and very much a good thing in the eyes of Islam. So if a person must lie to get others to convert, then it is legal to use lies to do this.
It is also legal to lie about the truth of Islam if the truth will harm Islam.

This is the danger of people like our friend **ahmadhassan **here who has been promoting Islam as a peaceful religion for days… only to now find out that he is really not a very peaceful person at all… but instead he advocates the killing of anyone who insults Islam. How many people have believed the mistruths he has been promoting?

That is what we have been watching going on here.
If anyone thinks I’m making this up I’ll post the Shari’ah law stating the above.
 
Another point that has been made is that in war, Islamic law states that those captured can be made slaves. The marriages of the female war captives are immediately made null and void. She become the personal property of her captor who has total sexual right to the female captive. Basically the Muslim captor has the right to rape her at will.

This continues to be the Islamic law, even today. Our friendly poster here stated in another thread that he sees no problem with this.
 
Imagine how many people would be dead if Christians rioted, committed arson, and cut heads off every time Christianity was insulted in just the media.
 
It often gets obfuscated (today’s word of the day), but the Qur’anic call is for Muslims to spread Islam:
  1. Others can convert, in which case they become Muslims and there is no problem;
  2. They can pay the subjugation tax and be vassals of Islam; or
  3. They can be killed.
Talk around it as much as they will, these are the thre guiding principles insofar as dealing with infidels (any of the 5+ billion non-muslims).

Note that there is no coexistence policy in any of the Qur’an’s surrahs, nor in any of the hadith. There is no record, that I have found, that says this policy is abrogated by a later surrah of the Qur’an, nor any hadith nor mention in Shariic law that does so.

Until this policy in unequivocably revised, there will be religio-political forces within Islam willing to use that as the basis for violence and expansionism.
 
God’s Tyranny writes that Muhammad was a homosexual. I guess I would ask how do you KNOW that? Muhammad lived 13 centuries ago so that would be difficult to verify. Let’s not, at least I don’t want to, get personal. The battle against the paganism of Islam needs to be won with the mind, not personal attacks. Now, maybe you do KNOW what you say. However, I’ve read a lot historians that say the same or worse about Jesus Christ. Now I don’t like it when someone personally attacks Jesus so I doubt it is very well accepted when someone makes a statement like that against Muhammad. But, hey, it’s still a free country–for the time being.
 
zackonattack said:
God’s Tyranny writes that Muhammad was a homosexual. I guess I would ask how do you KNOW that? Muhammad lived 13 centuries ago so that would be difficult to verify. Let’s not, at least I don’t want to, get personal. The battle against the paganism of Islam needs to be won with the mind, not personal attacks. Now, maybe you do KNOW what you say. However, I’ve read a lot historians that say the same or worse about Jesus Christ. Now I don’t like it when someone personally attacks Jesus so I doubt it is very well accepted when someone makes a statement like that against Muhammad. But, hey, it’s still a free country–for the time being.
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My guess is that God’s Tyranny is simply trying to get a rise out of **ahmadhassan **who has stated that anyone on this forum who insults Muhammad should be killed.
 
What does ahmadhassan think should be done to one who insults Jesus Christ or Christianity?
 
zackonattack said:
What does ahmadhassan think should be done to one who insults Jesus Christ or Christianity?
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I want to hear the answer to this because he’s been insulting both for days now.

I believe that his contention is that Christians are whips because we don’t stand up for our religion, Jesus or God when people insult them… you know we don’t kill people over it or riot.
 
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