Muslims dance in a Catholic Church?

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This was an event promoting “understanding with Islam”.

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Why are they being allowed to defile the Sanctuary?!?!
Throw them out!

Abomination of Desolation!
 
Well the pictures don’t give much information. From the looks of it, the Muslims were not in the sanctuary.

Being this comes from a right-wing website, I’m a little skeptical about the accuracy. :cool:

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Well the pictures don’t give much information. From the looks of it, the Muslims were not in the sanctuary.

Being this comes from a right-wing website, I’m a little skeptical about the accuracy. :cool:

Jim
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However, it does not belong in a Catholic church. 🤷
 
They appear to be dervishes, often called whirling dervishes. Its a branch of Sufi Islam. The dance, from what I understand, is a form of meditation.
 
Why is Muslim worship going on in a Catholic Church? Talk about apostasy.
 
Does the Pope really need to make a special statement indicating everything that shouldn’t happen in a Church? I think it’s fairly clear that using a church of God as a house for Islamic mystical practices is a sacrilege. At least, it is a scandal. 😦
 
The problem is, we don’t know the context from which this event is taken from.

We don’t even know for sure that these are Muslims in the pictures. They could be Eastern Catholics.

However, assuming they are in fact Muslims, what is the context of their being in a Catholic Church performing this dance?

We don’t know, because we’re getting only one side of the story.

I’ve seen some pretty outrageous stories by fundamentalist people before, that proved to be false or misrepresented.

I take such stories with a grain of salt.

Jim
 
If Muslims were actually dancing, or worse practicing their “dervish dance” in a Catholic church, it is difficult to imagine any Catholic needing to hear an encyclical cited to realize that it’s wrong and irreverent.
 
Dale M assuming you’re right about the dance being meditative, why eould they hold meditative dances in a catholic church? This just seems to be more of a cultural exchage than anything else. Correct me if I 'm wrong but didn’t the Pope visit an Islamic place of worship?
 
When you see things that look bad or when you cannot seem to defend the action, you should always remember this maxim from St. Alphonsus Liguori (from his Maxims for Attaining Perfection):
  1. To speak well of all, and to excuse the intention when you cannot defend the action.
 
hilde_the_dog said:
why eould they hold meditative dances in a catholic church? This just seems to be more of a cultural exchage than anything else.
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Yes, I think you are correct. According to Bones’ link:
Recently dervishes have been whirling in the nave of a very well-known Viennese church. The parish priest saw it as an expression of hope and unity.

The occasion was the 800th Birthday of the Persian-Islamic mystic Mevlana Celâleddin-i Rûmi († 1273). Rûmi is the founder of the Moorish Dervish Order.
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hilde_the_dog said:
Correct me if I 'm wrong but didn’t the Pope visit an Islamic place of worship?
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Yes, he VISITED…but he didn’t celbrate Mass…Muslims would NEVER allow a christian religious ceremony of ANY type to be celebrated in a Mosque. That is about the only thing we have that is of value to learn from the ilsamic practices.

Islam is a False religion…period. Thier religous ceremonies such as a dervish is a form of worshipping their false God (No its not the same God becuase they deny the Trinity which is the principle trait of our God). If this happened inside a Catholic Church it is an abomination. It would be no different than having pagans hold an Isis worship ceremony in you local church.
 
so… the Jewish people deny the Trinity as well… does this mean that the Jewish God is not the Christian God?

really, Muslims, Jews and Christians should be able to get along much better than we do… simply because we are the only faiths that do affirm the oneness of God -

remember, as Christians, we, too are monotheists, and the Trinity and the persons of the Trinity are one of the greatest mysteries, one of the most difficult things for even us to comprehend, understand and we do accept the Trinity based more on faith than anything else.

I can see where Muslims and Jews have trouble with the Trinity, but they still worship the same ONE God that we do.

We are just lucky enough to know a little bit more about Him…

still, Islamic and Jewish worship belong in Mosques and Synagogues; not in the Catholic Church. Catholic Churches are for Catholic Worship; specifically, for the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass, for quiet prayer at other times, and perhaps for praying the Divine Office.

Pax Christi,
Esther
 
the worship of the cult of Isis is vastly different than the worship of a Muslim for the one God.

The cult of Isis is based on a sort of… shattered glass type goddess… I’m not sure of the word anymore, but it is a peversion of polytheism into something not-quite monotheistic.

Muslims at least have two very important things down; God is one. and to God be the power, not to man. (Islam means submission to God)

The worshipers of Isis tend to have the opposite ideas; God is many, and to man be the power, not God.

thus the worship of the cult of Isis would be much more of a desecration and an abomination in a Catholic Church, whereas Islamic worship - still an abomination in the Catholic Church, it does not belong there - would still be a step up from Paganism.

Pax Christi,
Esther
 
THe jewish God is the same God as the CHristian God…

The Judeo Christian God and the Islamic God shre very little in characteristics.
 
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