Muslims, please tell me if this is unislamic

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I never claimed to be Christian.

It is people like me who will stop these muslim maniacs from making your country islamic. I appreciate true Christians who can and do “turn the other cheek” but I am not Christian and I will not sit idly by and let these sick, sick people harm in any way my family and loved ones.

Will you turn the other cheek if some mohammedan demands that you turn over your 10 year old daughter because allah showed her to him in a dream?
Medications are not the be all end all but I really suggust you look into clozapine. While this is a bit of a swipe I do suggust you get some help.
 
Why are we even discussing the age of puberty to determine if a girl is old enough to have a sexual relationship with an adult male?

My 10 year old niece has started puberty. She is in no way psychologically or emotionally old enough to have a relationship with an adult male or even a pubescent male.

I will personally cut the throat of any psycho-sicko who would suggest that because “in mohammed’s time it was acceptable so she is old enough because she has started puberty.”

To think that God, at any time in history, deemed it acceptable for little girls to have sexual relationships with adult males is beyond insane. If God did indeed say it was okay for little girls to be sexually abused by adult males then I wholeheartedly reject God.

Really, I am beyond disgusted that ANY sane, rational, empathic, clear-thinking human being can even entertain that notion that menstruation marks the time that a child, a little girl, at any time in history, can be raped by adult males with the blessing of God. Maybe it’s cultural thinking, but it does not excuse WESTERNERS who convert to that cult of murderers and rapists.

My neighbour’s eight year old son looks pretty hot and he’s getting hair under his arms so he’s at the age of puberty. I think I will marry him and wait until he’s nine to consummate the marriage. Ya think allah’s cool with that? He was cool with it for mo…
Hello buddy or whoever you are, but whose side do you think I’m on? Honestly, sometimes you got to hit a person with a two by four to make them see sense. I posted what I did to show the Muslim posters that the age of puberty was generally/historically thirteen, therefore, how can Muslims state that Aisha who was only nine, a child in body and mind, would be capable of having sex. You presume to know who I am when you didn’t even bother to read my earlier posts. And another thing, DON"T EVER USE THAT CONDESCENDING ATTITUDE WITH ME AGAIN, GOT IT. Now take a chill pill.
 
Hello buddy or whoever you are, but whose side do you think I’m on? Honestly, sometimes you got to hit a person with a two by four to make them see sense. I posted what I did to show the Muslim posters that the age of puberty was generally/historically thirteen, therefore, how can Muslims state that Aisha who was only nine, a child in body and mind, would be capable of having sex. You presume to know who I am when you didn’t even bother to read my earlier posts. And another thing, DON"T EVER USE THAT CONDESCENDING ATTITUDE WITH ME AGAIN, GOT IT. Now take a chill pill.
I am sorry that my post seemed to be aimed at you. It wasn’t. I know that you are as disgusted as I am. I am just frustrated that these pedophile supporters even have us arguing about puberty. I actually thought you did a great job of pointing out that the age was much higher than nine. I am disgusted that they are so sick that they actually believe “old enough to bleed, old enough to breed.” Really, I was not criticizing or trying to be condescending to you.
 
Medications are not the be all end all but I really suggust you look into clozapine. While this is a bit of a swipe I do suggust you get some help.
I do suggest you lose some weight and you won’t be yet another fat western cow who can only get some “lovin;” from some third world islamic green card chaser.

Why oh why don’t you hefers just move to an islamic country and stay there with your muslim honeys instead of forcing us to adapt to you and your “romeos”?
 
I do suggest you lose some weight and you won’t be yet another fat western cow who can only get some “lovin;” from some third world islamic green card chaser.

Why oh why don’t you hefers just move to an islamic country and stay there with your muslim honeys instead of forcing us to adapt to you and your “romeos”?
Ummm, I don’t know about you but around here we don’t speak to people this way, no matter what their beliefs or lack thereof are. You may very well end up being banned for this post.
 
Ummm, I don’t know about you but around here we don’t speak to people this way, no matter what their beliefs or lack thereof are. You may very well end up being banned for this post.
**josie L, good advice. that was bad of the Conflicted as if he/she owned the America or England. The conflicte dhould know that it was the western countries who came to the eastern countries and captured them. They took away all teh wealth to their own country, divided the people of other countries. They used a part of the people against the others to keep up their political hold on the other countries.

Seeds of enmity were sown amongst the other people and made enmy of each other. Finally, teh western were defeated and had to leave the country. They had the obligation to take some of their faithfuls with them. Now the Conflicted is telling them to go away. Why is that?? As long as the foreigners are law abiding, there is no need to tell them to go away. it is not fair for what was done to them long ago.

This is all politics. We see the Israelis killing the palestinians ruthlessly. I hope that all Jews do not support that kind of killing. We pray for the safety and well being of the Palestinians. They are suffering due to the bad habits of their own men as well as the harsh attitude of the Israelis.

I am not political person. But as The Conflicted has suggested neploho to go back to own country, I had to give my remark that it was not right of the Conflicted One.

It was more of an abuse from The Conflicted than any useful words.
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** it is not fair for what was done to them long ago.

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And was it fair, what your barbaric ancestors did to the Coptics, the Maronites, the Assyrians, the Orthodox, the Hindus, etc, etc in THEIR ANCESTRAL lands long before your unholy prophet was spawned from the loins of satan?

And, being a typically arrogant moslem you failed to comprehend that I see nepholo for what she is: a treasonous westerner who is in bed with the enemy: islam. I did not tell her to go back to her home, I told her if she is going to be a traitor she should go be a traitor in the homeland of the moslem green-card chaser who is poisoning her mind and soul.
 
And was it fair, what your barbaric ancestors did to the Coptics, the Maronites, the Assyrians, the Orthodox, the Hindus, etc, etc in THEIR ANCESTRAL lands long before your unholy prophet was spawned from the loins of satan?

And, being a typically arrogant moslem you failed to comprehend that I see nepholo for what she is: a treasonous westerner who is in bed with the enemy: islam. I did not tell her to go back to her home, I told her if she is going to be a traitor she should go be a traitor in the homeland of the moslem green-card chaser who is poisoning her mind and soul.
**The Conflicted1, it seems that you have a highly disturbed (conflicted) mind which is no use to you or to any one else here. So, please forget us if I or neploho do not follow yoru advice. **
 
Just giving back what I get on an almost daily basis from the perpetrators of mo’s psychosis simply for being a non-moslem. At least I don’t threat to rape them, their families and convert them all by force because I am superior because mo told me so. And don’t whinge about it being a matter of education or poverty. I’ve gotten the same disgusting treatment from moslem doctors and engineers in a “secular” islamic country.

No, you are not in bed with the muslims, you are however one of the first lambs they will slaughter if given half a chance.

It is wise to keep one’s friends close and one’s enemies closer. It is suicide to trust them.
 
Oh how naive you are. Try living as a western woman who isn’t a moslem in an islamic country. So until you have walked a mile in my shoes, with all due respect, put a sock in it.

I used to be as open minded as you. However, after being belittled, threatened and insulted over and over for close to 20 years I finally said “screw it,” and stopped being charitable, forgiving or naive.

There is nothing peaceful, beautiful or even worth saving in islamic cultures. islam corrupts as much as nazism corrupted. You are under the fatal delusion that just simply because they claim to worship the same God as you they will be as charitable to you when you are the minority.

You may be okay with having your wife covered simply because mo believed she was a walking hoo-hoo. You may even be okay with some pervert thinking it’s okay to have sexual relations with your young daughter simply because mo did it. I am simply not that suicidal.

If the radicals get the upper hand are so sure your “moderate and warm and cuddly” moslem friends will risk their lives to allow you to continue to worship Jesus Christ, without restrictions? Will they martyr themselves to allow you to continue to commit “shirk?”
 
**To inJesus and bbarrick, please understand that as muslim Woman has informed, it is not Islamic to marry a young girl with any one without her own approval. The first mistake (which was unislamic) was made to marry a daughter to settle a loan. That was bad.
We can leave it at that and not proceed into judgement matters.

Saudi Arabia is a country and it has its laws, good or bad. At least Saudi Arabia does not have any laws about lesbians and same sex marriages and I remember that the Queen of England had to sign a law of homosexuals many years ago. What would you say about all those things going on in the Christian majority countries??

That case in Saudi Arabia is just one case. What is going on daily in Europe? Did you people ever think about that? I am sure you do not like or approve those things. But you do not discuss them too.

If you want to laugh then please have a laugh at the very bad laws in the Christian dominated western countries.**

As a reader looking for a straight answer to this thread’s question, I want to thank Planten for his clear answer in his first paragraph. I learned something, even though the point of the original post was whether the child’s mother had legal standing in court. That issue is still unclear.

The rest of Planten’s response, however, doesn’t fit the thread’s subject and really belongs in another thread. Of course, bad things happen in ANY society, let alone Western society, because human beings are not perfect, as well we should know (there’s plenty of evidence in history). So referring to bad laws elsewhere, as does Planten, in an apparent effort to make his own position look better is an old emotional dodge amounting to drawing a red herring across the discussion of the thread’s point. If this thread is to be a source of understanding each other, then we can do without mucking up the discussion with implied put-downs about bad laws elsewhere.
 
**Thanks hansa for your opinion. an item appeared in the news some where. Some one (OP) made it the subject of this thread for some reason (good or bad). Reasonable replies were given. But look what it led us to. There was abuse, too much abuse in return from person whose faith is not known. May be the conflicted is an atheist. In that case there is no need for any moral religious dialogue with The Conflicted…

Such things happen in every country. There used to be a Newpaper in London “TheNews of the World.” All the sex cases and the results of the evenings Hide Park affairs used to be in that paper, and the appearance in court of all prostituton cases daily printed, made good reading for some people.

If an item had appeared in news about a young girl being married to settle a loan, it should be a small matter and need not be stretched too much, being a single case and not a habitual case of the Muslims. it could have been ignored and should have been ignored.

So we leave it at that.**
 
Well, Jharek, we’ve managed to agree on something twice today! 😃

Vickie 🙂
 
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