Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography,

[Bill_Pick]

, And quoted Gen 19:32 where Lot made his two daughters pregnant. My Question is: Do you feel that the Bible should be removed from every library in Canada? And are you comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?

 

[Agabriel]

, And quoted Gen 19:32 where Lot made his two daughters pregnant. My Question is: Do you feel that the Bible should be removed from every library in Canada? And are you comfortable with the fact that your prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?

Considering the Quran is worse than the Mein Kampf… they should talk! the bigotry in that is mind boggling. And the commands to kill, torture, steal and enslave with hate being a common theme in the Quran.

Anyway, they are using an excuse to try to start banning the Bible. They have already insisted the Quran is placed higher than the Bible in some libraries. This is just more of the same poor behavior from muslims.

This is just creeping sharia. More demands, more of creeping segregation or the separation of them above others even with their Mein kampf, oh excuse me I mean QUran. If the Bible is removed so should the Quran be removed.

Is the Qur’an hate propoganda?

Quran’s jihad surahs - and it ain’t that peaceful kind

And all that facade of peacefulness that so many are fooled by when the muslims start making their demands? Well, here goes:

The Qur’an:

Sura (16:106) - Establishes that there are circumstances that can “compel” a Muslim to tell a lie.

Sura (3:28) - This verse tells Muslims not to take those outside the faith as friends, unless it is to “guard themselves.”

Sura (40:28) - A man is introduced as a believer, but one who must “hide his faith” among those who are not believers.

Sura (2:225) - “Allah will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts”

Sura (66:2) - “Allah has already ordained for you, (O men), the dissolution of your oaths” Taken collectively these verses are interpreted to mean that there are circumstances when a Muslim may be “compelled” to deceive others for a greater purpose.

 

[Eucharisted]

The Qu’ran says the Bible is not corrupt

The Muslims repeatedly claim that the Bible has been corrupted and that the Qu’ran is the only trustworthy scripture in existence. This is why Muslims often attack the Bible. But this cannot be acording to the Quran. The Quran says that the books of Moses, the Psalms, and the gospel were all given by God.

Torah - “We gave Moses the Book and followed him up with a succession of messengers,” (Sura 2:87).1
Psalms - “We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms,” (4:163).
Gospel - “It is He Who sent down to thee (step by step), in truth, the Book, confirming what went before it; and He sent down the Law (of Moses) and the Gospel (of Jesus) before this, as a guide to mankind, and He sent down the criterion (of judgment between right and wrong),” (3:3).
Also, “And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary, confirming the Law that had come before him: We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light, and confirmation of the Law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear Allah,” (5:46).

We see that the Qu’ran states that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel were all given by God. With this we Christians heartily agree. But, the Muslims claim that the Bible is corrupted and full of contradictions. If that is so, then it would seem they do not believe the Qu’ran since the Qu’ran says that the Word of God cannot be altered:

• “Rejected were the messengers before thee: with patience and constancy they bore their rejection and their wrongs, until Our aid did reach them: there is none that can alter the words (and decrees) of Allah. Already hast thou received some account of those messengers,” (6:34).
• “The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfillment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all,” (6:115).
• “For them are glad tidings, in the life of the present and in the Hereafter; no change can there be in the words of Allah. This is indeed the supreme felicity,” (10:64).

When Muhammed (570 - 632) was alive, he claimed to receive the revelation of the Qu’ran from Allah. This means that at that time, the Bible which was in existence, could not have been corrupted because the Qu’ran states that God’s word cannot be corrupted. The question I have for the Muslims is “When and where was the Bible corrupted, since the Qu’ran says that the Torah, the Psalms, and the Gospel are from Allah and Allah’s words cannot be changed?”

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

… prophet Muhammad married a six year old child, when he was 55 years old? Do you think this is a good story to tell children?

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

Muslims reject those nasty allegations against the Prophets Bible has in various stories. No Prophet committed any such major sin.

God blessed Prophets with holy books & it was the duty of human being to preserve but they failed. So , when God sent His final book , He took the responsiblity to keep it from corruption. God made Quran easy to memorise . So , millions have it in memory. There is no way one can change a single word / add anything in it.

 

[Pax_Vobiscum_57]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

I don’t know if you are in the USA or Canada, but here, that would be considered pedophilia. A felony. Pedophiles have it rough in prison. I almost wish your Muhammad lived today, so he could enjoy his prison term in the general population.

 

[ralphinal]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

Muslims reject those nasty allegations against the Prophets Bible has in various stories. No Prophet committed any such major sin.

God blessed Prophets with holy books & it was the duty of human being to preserve but they failed. So , when God sent His final book , He took the responsiblity to keep it from corruption. God made Quran easy to memorise . So , millions have it in memory. There is no way one can change a single word / add anything in it.

I am going to ignore the unrelated insult you have cast upon the West and focus on the last sentence of your post.

How is it impossible to change a word in the Qur’an BUT people were able to corrupt the other “books” sent by God?

 

[RebeccaJ]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Why not ? Thousands & thousands school girls are enjoying close relationships with unlimited partners , becoming illegal mothers . Is not it better for them to get married specially those who reached their puberty instead of visiting the abortion clinics or go for DNA test to find out who is the daddy ?

I suppose this is the mild view compared to say, lighting a school girl on fire.

 

[Bill_Pick]

I don’t know if you are in the USA or Canada, but here, that would be considered pedophilia. A felony. Pedophiles have it rough in prison. I almost wish your Muhammad lived today, so he could enjoy his prison term in the general population.

AMEN

 

[Bill_Pick]

I don’t know if you are in the USA or Canada, but here, that would be considered pedophilia. A felony. Pedophiles have it rough in prison. I almost wish your Muhammad lived today, so he could enjoy his prison term in the general population.

AMEN

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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…I almost wish your Muhammad lived today, so he could enjoy his prison term in the general population.

Muhammed (pbuh ) in the prison with God’s son David (pbuh ) because he married a young virgin at death bed , Solomon the wise (pbuh) because he had 1000 wives including concubines , also Moses & Abraham ( pbut ) for having more than 1 wife , Christians Lord’s earthy dad because he had a teenage wife …lol . Christians loving Prince if were born today in the west , have to stay at a safe custody

Western Christians ethcis & laws will send many OT figures including Prophets in prison & hell . Jesus (pbuh ) will have to fry all these chosen people of God in fire including his earthy father …so funny.

Thanks God , we will be judged according to His final holy book and not according to today’s western culture . Alhmadulillah …praise be to God only.

 

[planten]

I don’t know if you are in the USA or Canada, but here, that would be considered pedophilia. A felony. Pedophiles have it rough in prison. I almost wish your Muhammad lived today, so he could enjoy his prison term in the general population.

** Pax, Please remember that there have been some mishandling in the books of Hadith as there had been heavy corruption in the bibles. Bible is worse than the books of Hadith.

It is better not to base anything serious on the books of Hadith. If there is anything, anything against any prophet of God in the Quran then please bring it. Otherwise do not malign any one on the basis of Hadith only.

Muslim Woman is right in advising you in post #4 about what is now going on in the christin families.**

 

[planten]

I am going to ignore the unrelated insult you have cast upon the West and focus on the last sentence of your post.

How is it impossible to change a word in the Qur’an BUT people were able to corrupt the other “books” sent by God?

Ralph, if you consider that an insult then consider what the Muslims feel about the blame on their prophets life by the christians. That is based on a fake report in the Hadith. But what Muslim Woman has said is a reality in front of you. Would you be kind not to ignore that?

 

[planten]

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** In the name of Allah , the Most Gracious , Ever Merciful **

Muhammed (pbuh ) in the prison with God’s son David (pbuh ) because he married a young virgin at death bed , Solomon the wise (pbuh) because he had 1000 wives including concubines , also Moses & Abraham ( pbut ) for having more than 1 wife , Christians Lord’s earthy dad because he had a teenage wife …lol . Christians loving Prince if were born today in the west , have to stay at a safe custody

Western Christians ethcis & laws will send many OT figures including Prophets in prison & hell . Jesus (pbuh ) will have to fry all these chosen people of God in fire including his earthy father …so funny.

Thanks God , we will be judged according to His final holy book and not according to today’s western culture . Alhmadulillah …praise be to God only.

**Yes, quite right. We have noticed the bad element in the church thinking about our prophet. You are right in pointing to the false beliefs of these people. Very soon you will see something about Jesus too in another thread which is to research the early marraige of Jesus at an age of 12 or 16.

The affair with Mary Magd will then be a second affair. Quite legal. No harm.

Please note Why those bad things (horrible reports) are mentioned in the bible about prophets (men of God). They are purposely inserted by the writers of those books becaus ethey wanted to commit those crimes. So they involved the prophets first so that they could also do those bad things freely. They needed some kind of licence.

**

 

[Catarina]

I think the entirety of this argument can be boiled down to one word:

Faith.

Many holy books over the centuries have been written, rewritten, translated and lost. Each religion follows what they believe to be the word, and in the end what actions they take in this world are between them and God.

Ethics vary from country to country. What we in the United States find acceptable may not be so in say the UAE. Does that mean either side is evil? Not really. It means that we have a difference in how we view the world. The more difficult situation of this issue is what we teach our children and how we interact with one another.

 

[planten]

I think the entirety of this argument can be boiled down to one word:

Faith.

Many holy books over the centuries have been written, rewritten, translated and lost. Each religion follows what they believe to be the word, and in the end what actions they take in this world are between them and God.

Ethics vary from country to country. What we in the United States find acceptable may not be so in say the UAE. Does that mean either side is evil? Not really. It means that we have a difference in how we view the world. The more difficult situation of this issue is what we teach our children and how we interact with one another.

Good post. The topic is :
Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography,

Leave the Muslims alone. No need to malign our prophet too. Just read the bible yourself and give your opinion whether there is any porn material in it. You may be the judge of your own things.

 

[Catarina]

Good post. The topic is :
Muslims state that they believe that the Bible is a book filled with pornography,

Leave the Muslims alone. No need to malign our prophet too. Just read the bible yourself and give your opinion whether there is any porn material in it. You may be the judge of your own things.

I agree they should be left alone.

Far as the Bible being filled with pornography, there is a lot of argument towards such. There are far too many things, especially in the Old Testament, that are graphic. It made more sense when it was written because the world was far less politically correct.

 

[swariffin]

** Pax, Please remember that there have been some mishandling in the books of Hadith as there had been heavy corruption in the bibles. Bible is worse than the books of Hadith.

It is better not to base anything serious on the books of Hadith. If there is anything, anything against any prophet of God in the Quran then please bring it. Otherwise do not malign any one on the basis of Hadith only.

Muslim Woman is right in advising you in post #4 about what is now going on in the christin families.**

A classic question being asked to the one who raised the accusation. Please tell us which part of the bible is/are corrupted?

 

[swariffin]

Ralph, if you consider that an insult then consider what the Muslims feel about the blame on their prophets life by the christians. That is based on a fake report in the Hadith. But what Muslim Woman has said is a reality in front of you. Would you be kind not to ignore that?

Dear brother, we the Christian don’t know which hadiths you consider ere acceptable, and which are not. Please show us, so the next time I talk about Hadiths, I won’t quote them. OK?

 

[Bill_Pick]

will all Our Muslim friends please read this :Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not
into temptation but deliver us from evil. Amen.

(based on Mt. 6:9-13 and Lk. 11:2-4) Thank You

 

[ralphinal]

Ralph, if you consider that an insult then consider what the Muslims feel about the blame on their prophets life by the christians. That is based on a fake report in the Hadith. But what Muslim Woman has said is a reality in front of you. Would you be kind not to ignore that?

It was an insult NOT because it was false but because HER INTENT was to slander Western women, whom she sees as whores.

I cannot and will not deny that too many Western women make bad choices. That is not the issue of this thread. The issue is how Muslims see the content of the Bible.

MW has shown an amazing ability to avoid direct questions and shift to attacking Christians.

As far as Muhammed’s life, which of these claims is false.

1. He married more women then the Qur’an allows a man to marry.
2. He married a girl who may have been as young as six and consummated the marriage when she was as young as nine.
3. He lead men into battle.
4. He ordered the killing of those who opposed him.
5. He claimed a portion of all loot taken in battle.