Of course what Muslims say about this is a bunch of lies!**Muslims say that the Bible used to be God’s word, was corrupted by men, and God had to send forth Mohammed with a new book to restore true worship.**My question:
If the Qur’an were to become corrupted by men, would God send forth yet another messenger and another book?
HiMuslims say that the Bible used to be God’s word, was corrupted by men, and God had to send forth Mohammed with a new book
HiOf course what Muslims say about this is a bunch of lies!
HiHi Chris,
From a Muslim’s perspective it is not possible to corrupt the Qur’an for several reasons.
All of that aside, But what if…
- After 1400 years, the Quran still exists in the original Arabic language.
- The Qur’an is memorized by heart by many Muslims world wide. Muslims would be able to reproduce it from memory. I know of one teacher at Zaytuna institute in California who wrote out the Quran completely from beginning to end, completely from his memory.
- God promised to protect it.
We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption) (Quran 15:9)
One of the main doctrines in Islam is God’s Justice. It can be classified as Justice through creation and Justice through legislation. By creation I mean all of what He created, the universe and everything in it. By legislation I mean his laws, orders and commandments. Complete Justice belongs to God.
When we look in nature there is nothing out of place, and everything has its measure, course and order set by God. From the orbit of the stars and planets in our solar system to the sustaining of Life on this earth; the natural order in nature is Perfect. This natural order leads us to conclude that divine justice alone balances the scales.
This concept extends to His legislation as well, He sends exemplary messengers to teach us His message, his orders, commands, oughts and ought-nots. If His message becomes corrupted then his Justice demands He sends another messenger with the same message or at least protect the message from being corrupted. Otherwise we are left lost, in a catch-22 situation where we are required to follow God’s commands without knowing what it is.
I hope this answers your question.
peace.
Jesus did not leave the word behind? He IS the word and he is here among us NOW, not on paper or stone, but Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity, in tabernacles all over the world. The faithful may partake of Truth every day if they see fit.
- JesusYeshuaIssa did not leave the Word of God or anything in writing revealed on him from GodAllahYHWH in the form of stone tablets as was in the case of Moses.
- Or anything written by JesusYeshuaIssa himself as a biography when he left from Galilee, after the incident of Crucifixion, alongwith his mother Mary in search of the lost ten tribes of the house of Israel, he died natural and peaceful death in Kashmir, India.
- Jesus left nothing behind authenticated by him, in possession of the Church, as there was none in existence( not erected yet).
- We do respect the NTGospels which have account of Jesus life, but it does not have much utility for a non-Catholic except that we may treat it as a book of history subject to scrutiny, internal as well as external, for each bit of event for finding truth in it on merit.
Wasn’t there a series of passages that Mohammed deleted when he suspected that satan had been the source? The satanic verses?Muslims like to claim that their Quran is perfectly preserved. However, the history of its compilation reveals otherwise. The Quran was actually compiled by a junior scribe Zayd ibn Thabit under the auspices of his master Caliph Uthman. The Quran we know today is known as the Uthamic Recension.
This link shows the textual variants of the Quran and the evidence that it is not perfectly preserved - including authentic hadiths about missing verses.
answering-islam.org/Quran/Text/
Now why in heaven’s name would a ‘God’ protect the Koran and not the Torah and the Gospels?
- God promised to protect it.
We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption) (Quran 15:9)
HiNow why in heaven’s name would a ‘God’ protect the Koran and not the Torah and the Gospels?
The problem is that the Koran as given was not the only one available many centuries ago.Muslims say that the Bible used to be God’s word, was corrupted by men, and God had to send forth Mohammed with a new book to restore true worship.
My question:
If the Qur’an were to become corrupted by men, would God send forth yet another messenger and another book?
That’s dealt with on another thread.tell me how do you explain about Islam speaks about Trinity consist by Father, Jesus and Mary??
Hi AgnosTheist,Now why in heaven’s name would a ‘God’ protect the Koran and not the Torah and the Gospels?
That does not make any sense. If the koran is the last then its all the more reason to protect the first two. Else its not fair to all the people that have been misled.Hi AgnosTheist,
Because the Koran is the last of the divine scriptures and the prophet muhammad (sa) is the final prophet and messenger.
It took the efforts of 124,000 prophets, one prophet after another in succession until it finally culminated in the prophethood of Muhammad(sa) and the revelation in the Quran.
If there is really a God, and if all 3 (torah, gospels, and koran) really did come from him then there wont be any contradictions between them in the first place.Here is a question. If the Torah had been protected, whey bother sending the Gospel, maybe some will say the Torah is not complete and the Gospel is the fulfillment of the Torah. The problem with that is that you have two separate laws when there is only 1 God.
that only proves that one or both are completely fabricated. the koran as well was fabricated. and these man-made religions are making you people hate each other for no valid reason.For instance, I’m no expert but I believe the Torah forbids people from eating flesh of the swine. But the Gospels allow it.
Two conflicting laws on the same subject can not exist at the same time, it is either yes you can eat flesh of the swine or no you can not eat the flesh of the swine.
I am all for logic. There should be a good balance between faith and reason.Well, lets think about it logically.
I believe in the Divine, I just dont believe in religion for logical reasons: they are all unoriginal, erroneous, divisive, hateful, morally inconsistent, & completely baseless in their fantastic claims. little good comes out of it. its not worth it.Whether you are an atheist or a Theist, you have to agree that the universe and all of its components, planets, gravity, gases, sun, stars all work together perfectly.