My bad fast ash wednesday

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phil19034 said:
If it helps at all, the McDonald’s fillet-o-fish sandwich was created to give Catholics a Friday menu choice.
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The alternate that they tried (and failed) was a grilled pineapple sandwich.
 
If you aren’t Catholic yet, then you aren’t bound by the rules and regulations of the Church.
 
I’m a foodie too. But the rules and regulations of Lent are an incentive to have more self control.

I don’t see your age anywhere in your posts. So if you are under the age of 18 but 14-17, you would, if you were Catholic, only be bound by the abstinence rule (not eating meat on Ash Wednesday and all Fridays of Lent.

Because your age isn’t listed, my advice is to see your dr since you may not have stopped growing yet. He can advise you of whether or not you are healthy enough to fast (in the future) and abstain now. He can also let you know whether or not you have any health issues which would prevent you from these.

If he tells you not to fast or abstain from food, you must listen to him as well as to your parents who may not wish you to do this at this time.
 
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phil19034:
Then when Good Friday comes, eat a lot on Holy Thursday night, before bed.
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You’re encouraging gluttony?
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Feasting before Fasting is not gluttony. Now a person could be glutton when feasting, but I was not endorsing that.

Many Parishes organize bus trips on Holy Thursday, after the Last Supper to travel around to different parishes and pray before the Blessed Sacrament in the many parishes. Then, they return back to the parish later (sometimes as last as 11PM) and feast on cookies, cakes, snacks, treats, 1etc before Good Friday starts at midnight.
 
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I was once explained that meekness does not mean humbleness necessarily but patience. Maybe you are impatient with yourself, disappointed you didn’t follow all rules.
Maybe the key is to push forward and do it great on the next days of Lent.
Easter Lent begins hard and ends hard (in terms of fasting). But then you get many days to get it rigjt and three wonderful last days to make it all up.
Don’t feel push down just now. Persist and be patient.
 
Thank you for not judging me and offering sound advice qnd encouragement
 
Dear rome617 – I love your honesty. I am a convert myself (of ten years) and this whole fasting thing was very hard to do! I’m getting better, but I think it’s honestly better to acknowledge that you aren’t going to be able to go from 0 to 60 right away. Good luck to you and Good bless you on your journey (maybe into the Church).
 
The church has said as much that it’s one regular AND two small meals. If done correctly it IS fasting.
 
Based on the title and substance of this post what are the odds this is a troll posting?
 
EnglishTeacher said:
You need to eat no more than three meals on a fasting day. Nothing should be eaten outside of those three meals, so no in between meal snacks.
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I believe selectively misquoting someone is called cherry-picking. I do not know why people find the need to do this.

Saying two small meals ought really to be called snacks is nit-picking.

Perhaps my terminology was not precise but I find no usefulness to this attempt to reproach me for what I wrote.

At least one other poster (Wonderyturns) seems to think I was correct.
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I am sorry, I was not trying to misquote you; I probably misunderstood what you meant. I thought you were saying that we could have three meals on a fast day. Then I replied that we can only have one meal; or alternatively we can split that one meal up into two smaller meals or snacks (whatever you want to call them). I didn’t have an issue over the terminology of meals vs. snacks.

Probably we were talking past each other. Apologies if I caused offense.
 
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The church has said as much that it’s one regular AND two small meals. If done correctly it IS fasting.
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Interesting. I guess you are right. I always thought the rule was one meal, or else two small meals that together equal one meal. Having three meals, even if two are small, just doesn’t seem like fasting to me, as that’s about what I eat in a normal day. But to each his own, and apparently that does qualify in the US.
 
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Annie said:
So one year I decided to learn to fast. I started by saying I would fast from 3 to 4 pm. What I learned was that I would be totally tempted to eat for that one hour while the rest of the day was, eh.
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I have a similar story. A few years ago, I decided to give up chocolate for the Great Fast (Lent). Throughout the Great Fast I had this insatiable desire for chocolate. Plus where I work, there’s lots of dark/milk/mint chocolate around. It was tough!!!
 
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phil19034 said:
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Gorgias:
Are you Catholic? Between the ages of 18 and 60? Do you have any medical conditions that would limit your ability to cut back your food intake?
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FYI - In the United States the Abstaining from meat obligation is for ages 14 - 59.

13 and under and 60 and over do not have an obligation. But 14 through 59 do
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Are you sure about that? I thought the obligation to abstain from meat is from 14 for the rest of life (provided no health issues/ doctors advice, of course).
 
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Are you sure about that? I thought the obligation to abstain from meat is from 14 for the rest of life
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LOL! @phil19034 corrected his post, which was originally about fasting, not abstinence. When he said he corrected it (and I have to admit, I didn’t look, but I presumed that he changed “14” to “18”), if he changed the topic to ‘abstinence’, then he should have dropped the “until 59” part. You’re right @paperwight – the obligation to abstain does not expire at any given age.
 
Yes, the fasting is from the ages of 18-59.
Abstinence is from the age of 14 to death.
 
It must, therefore, come down to what one perceives a meal to be.

I would consider this to be within what is permitted.

Breakfast (a meal): a slice of toast and a cup of coffee.

Lunch (main meal): Cheese omelette with salad followed by a coffee.

Supper (meal): Tuna mayonnaise sandwich with a cup of tea.

Outside those three meals I would only consume water to quench my thirst and would certainly not eat any other solid food.

I certainly believe our Eastern brethren have a thing or too to teach us about fasting.

As an aside I do not consider what Muslims do during the month of Ramadan as fasting. They can neither eat nor drink during daylight hours. What they eat when it is dark has no restrictions. I am sure having nothing to eat, and certainly nothing to drink, during the day must be difficult. However, to me (and to other Christians) fasting is about the quantity you consume and not when.
 
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