My communion issues are solved

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I went to an Episcopal service this morning and loved it. How welcoming to see “all are invited to communion, regardless of denomination” in the program. Everything I miss about Catholicism was in the service. I had the most powerful experience recieving communion that I have ever had. And this comes after being reminded, through the discusson here, of all the reasons I rejected Catholicism long ago. My communion issues are solved.
 
I was under the impression (from conversations with an Episcopalian friend of mine) that in the Episcopalian church they do believe the Eucharist is the body and blood of Jesus. Do they recite the creed before Communion? If so, did you recite the creed and affirm that you believed the Eucharist was the Body of Christ?
 
I went to an Episcopal service this morning and loved it. How welcoming to see “all are invited to communion, regardless of denomination” in the program. Everything I miss about Catholicism was in the service. I had the most powerful experience recieving communion that I have ever had. And this comes after being reminded, through the discusson here, of all the reasons I rejected Catholicism long ago. My communion issues are solved.
Maybe, on a personal leve, but, not on a Theological level. Episocopal communion is not recognized by the Church because the priests’ Holy Orders are invalid. Invalid Holy Orders translates into invalid communion. What you claim to be receiving is, unfortunately, merely a piece of bread. The real presence does not exist.

Perhaps you should re-read the sixth chapter of the Gospel of St. John. Many of the Jews found Jesus’ teachings hard to accept. When Jesus asked His Apostles if they were going to leave, Peter said, “No, Lord. To whom shall we go? You have the words of everlasting life.”

The Church’s teachings are Jesus’ teachings. Her deposit of Faith has remained intact because she preserves and holds the fullness of Truth.

Perhaps the Holy Spirit is leading you back to the fold; but, because you may not want to accept the full Truth and repent, you are seeking the easy way out. God’s ways are not easy. Jesus said that the road is often narrow, but, it leads back to Him.

What you are taking comfort in is merely a shadow. It’s not the fullness of Truth at all. Had you been born and reared an Episcopalian, it would be different because you didn’t know any better. But, you are a Catholic. Whether you like it or not, you are still a member of the Church, albeit a misguided one, but you are still one of us.

You said that you “found your solution”. However, as your sister in the Faith, I have a moral obligation to tell you that you are incorrect. This is called fraternal correction done in charity, something that St. Paul urges us to do, on occasion.

I would challenge you to show up at Mass next week, during the Church’s greatest and most sacred time of the year: Holy Week. Holy Week is the end all and be all of our Faith. Immerse yourself in the mysteries that play out over the course of the week. Take part in the Palm Sunday procession and Mass (just refrain from receiving Holy Communion). Go to the Evening Mass of the Lord’s Supper on Holy Thursday. Return for the Good Friday Liturgy and then on Saturday evening for the Great Easter Vigil.

Just as the Lord commanded Ancient Israel to gather her children together during Passover, so, too, does Jesus gather us, the New Israel, for His Sacred Passover.
 
Open communion? This reminds me of the passage out of 1 Corinthians:

“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.” 1Co 11:27

A Church should be concerned with the state of their congregation’s souls. Open communion really weakens what 1 Corinthians is saying. It opens up reception of communion to everybody. Communion is something so holy it should be carefully guarded, for the sake of those souls who may not realize the judgement they are putting themselves under.
 
I went to an Episcopal service this morning and loved it. How welcoming to see “all are invited to communion, regardless of denomination” in the program. Everything I miss about Catholicism was in the service. I had the most powerful experience recieving communion that I have ever had. And this comes after being reminded, through the discusson here, of all the reasons I rejected Catholicism long ago. My communion issues are solved.
Except of course that you actually didn’t receive the Body and Blood of Christ, just ordinary bread and wine.

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Except of course that you actually didn’t receive the Body and Blood of Christ, just ordinary bread and wine. Next week just go to the grocery store and get a bottle of wine and a loaf of bread and you are set if that is all you want in communion, ordinary bread and wine.
That is probably the most unkind thing I have ever read on this forum. Do you even think before you spew your venom?
 
The Truth is never unkind, it just is what it is, the Truth!
That the OP didn’t truly receive the body and blood of Christ? According to your beliefs, that may be the truth. I respect that. That she should just go to the grocery and by some bread and wine and have her own little communion service? Pure venom!!!
 
Do they recite the creed before Communion? If so, did you recite the creed and affirm that you believed the Eucharist was the Body of Christ?

No where does either the Nicene or Apostles’ Creed say that the communion is the Body and Blood of Christ.
 
I went to an Episcopal service this morning and loved it. How welcoming to see “all are invited to communion, regardless of denomination” in the program. Everything I miss about Catholicism was in the service. I had the most powerful experience recieving communion that I have ever had. And this comes after being reminded, through the discusson here, of all the reasons I rejected Catholicism long ago. My communion issues are solved.
In defense of the Protestants (for once) -

I think that even the Episcopalians expect that those who receive Holy Communion with them be practicing Christians who are not adding non-Christian practices to their devotional lives, and not in a state of sin.

Being allowed to confess your sins privately in your heart doesn’t mean that you don’t have to ever confess your sins to Jesus. Nor does it mean that you don’t have to repent of your sins and repair the consequences of them before receiving their Holy Communion, just because there is no priest there to tell you to do so.

Protestant discipline is easy, but it’s not completely non-existent. And just because it’s only a symbol doesn’t mean that it’s a completely meaningless gesture that you just do in order to “feel welcomed.”
 
Do they recite the creed before Communion? If so, did you recite the creed and affirm that you believed the Eucharist was the Body of Christ?

No where does either the Nicene or Apostles’ Creed say that the communion is the Body and Blood of Christ.
You are right. I was confusing it with what is said just before communion in the Eastern Churches, where we affirm that the Eucharist is the body and blood of Jesus Christ. My apologies. 😊
 
I went to an Episcopal service this morning and loved it. How welcoming to see “all are invited to communion, regardless of denomination” in the program. Everything I miss about Catholicism was in the service. I had the most powerful experience recieving communion that I have ever had. And this comes after being reminded, through the discusson here, of all the reasons I rejected Catholicism long ago. My communion issues are solved.
Welcome to the Episcopal Church!
 
Open communion? This reminds me of the passage out of 1 Corinthians:

“Whoever, therefore, eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner will be guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Let a man examine himself, and so eat of the bread and drink of the cup. For any one who eats and drinks without discerning the body eats and drinks judgment upon himself. That is why many of you are weak and ill, and some have died.” 1Co 11:27

A Church should be concerned with the state of their congregation’s souls. Open communion really weakens what 1 Corinthians is saying. It opens up reception of communion to everybody. Communion is something so holy it should be carefully guarded, for the sake of those souls who may not realize the judgement they are putting themselves under.
What about the example of Jesus? Didn’t he eat with absolutely anyone, discrediting the purity codes of the Pharisees? Perhaps the “unworthy manner” in 1CO 11:27 refers to the mind that imagines oneself as holier than others.
 
What about the example of Jesus? Didn’t he eat with absolutely anyone, discrediting the purity codes of the Pharisees? Perhaps the “unworthy manner” in 1CO 11:27 refers to the mind that imagines oneself as holier than others.
You are confusing two issues. What Jesus did was share a meal with people, in the same manner that, if you and I were friends, we would go to Chilli’s, Outback or have Tex-Mex at our families’ houses. I am not the most saintly person in the world, yet, occasionally, a dear priest friend of mine and I will eat out together (and I consider him the same caliber as the former Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger, now our Pope).

What we are looking at, though, is not a meal in that sense of the word as we commonly understand it to mean, but a sacrificial banquet within the context of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Jesus instituted the New Covenant at the Last Supper. Everything that the Passover was supposed to pre-figure receives its fullness. Notice how no word was mentioned about the Apostles eating a lamb at the Passover. They were, though, eating a Lamb. Jesus told them “Take and eat. This is my Body, which will be given up for you.” At that moment, the bread became His Body. Jesus is the True Lamb. He is our Paschal Lamb. The Jewish Passover ritual called for the eating of a roasted lamb. The New Covenant also calls for the eating of a Lamb. Only, in this case, Jesus is that Lamb.

The Protestant ecclesial communities do not have any notion of the term “sacrifice”. Even the Anglicans don’t call it that. Because their Holy Orders are invalid, they cannot and do not confect the Real Presence at their services. Their communion is merely symbolic. It is only a mere shadow and specter of what the Church and her Sister Churches have: the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ.

So, what St. Paul is describing is certainly most applicable because he is listing the proper state a person needs to be in so that he may worthily eat the Body and drink the Blood of the Lord.
 
What about the example of Jesus? Didn’t he eat with absolutely anyone, discrediting the purity codes of the Pharisees? Perhaps the “unworthy manner” in 1CO 11:27 refers to the mind that imagines oneself as holier than others.
Well, true that Jesus welcomed all! That’s no mystery. But then who were the people at the Last Supper…His closest followers.

-Gospel of John
{14:21} Whoever holds to my commandments and keeps them: it is he who loves me. And whoever loves me shall be loved by my Father. And I will love him, and I will manifest myself to him.”

{15:10} If you keep my precepts, you shall abide in my love, just as I also have kept my Father’s precepts and I abide in his love.

15:14} You are my friends, if you do what I instruct you.

Well , I guess Jesus is just a Pharisee at heart 😉
 
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