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alleykat71172
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He’s a beautiful perfect baby cursed with a horrible name. I don’t even know what to do. I guess I can’t do anything but I’m so sad and angry over this.
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Allegra
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The name is weird, I’ll give you that. Congratulations on your new grandbaby though! Hopefully you can just call him Judas?
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pianistclare
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Congratulations on the new grandchild.
Perhaps a visit from your priest would help to rethink this name she has chosen.
Aside from the un-Christian like tone of it, someone shoudl ask her why she desires to set her child up for ridicule and bullying once he reaches school age.
She really is too immature for a child, it’s not about her statement making desires.
I’ll say a prayer for this poor child.
Call him JUDE, After the Saint. He’s the patron of miraculous cures. Maybe a Jude in the family is what she needs.
Perhaps a visit from your priest would help to rethink this name she has chosen.
Aside from the un-Christian like tone of it, someone shoudl ask her why she desires to set her child up for ridicule and bullying once he reaches school age.
She really is too immature for a child, it’s not about her statement making desires.
I’ll say a prayer for this poor child.
Call him JUDE, After the Saint. He’s the patron of miraculous cures. Maybe a Jude in the family is what she needs.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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Judas means courageous and is a variant of Judah and Jude (greek). Remember there is a good Judas but in most Bibles, it’s translated “Jude” which really it should be either/or on one or the other. It ranks just below 1000.
Messiah means anointed and there appear to be no variants. It’s use as a name is African in origin. is actually a decently popular name ranking in the 200’s as of 2017, skyrocketing in popularity since it began to be used in 2005. Other names in that range for 2017 are Zane, Peter, Paul, Dean, Brady, Derek, Jax…so not terribly uncommon for his generation.
Messiah means anointed and there appear to be no variants. It’s use as a name is African in origin. is actually a decently popular name ranking in the 200’s as of 2017, skyrocketing in popularity since it began to be used in 2005. Other names in that range for 2017 are Zane, Peter, Paul, Dean, Brady, Derek, Jax…so not terribly uncommon for his generation.
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TheLittleLady
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My son is a Jude and we have always called him “Judas”.
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Xanthippe_Voorhees
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I know someone named Lucian Christopher. He was always teased and called Lucifer…you’d think he’d get Luke…nope. Once kids found out his middle name it was all over.
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Lou2U
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Congratulations, OP! Don’t let his name get in the way of your relationship with your daughter and grandson.
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Mi_Rose
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Congratulations
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Paul71
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Perhaps you can call him Jude?
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Legend
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This isn’t the time for sadness and anger.
You’ve got a new grandson! he’s healthy. He’s
beautiful! So, congratulations, Grandma. And happy birthday, Jude. (I hope).
You’ve got a new grandson! he’s healthy. He’s
beautiful! So, congratulations, Grandma. And happy birthday, Jude. (I hope).
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mVitus
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What nationality is the SiL/DiL? I remeber from another thread (what not to name a Catholic boy) that Judas is a common name in some Catholic cultures with San Judas Thadeus (St. Jude) being an example of a good Judas.
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TheLittleLady
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And sing to him “Hey, Jude”
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tuscany
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Alleykat,
Be at peace, it is out of your hands. What this baby is going to need is LOTS of LOVE. He is going to grow up wondering why other kids live see their dad and he doesn’t. Then some day his mother is going to have to tell him that she doesn’t even know who his father is. Add that to him always wondering why he was given a name that he is teased about…
This little one can very easily grow up to be a very angry man making very bad choices. Growing up, he will need safe people and a safe place where he is loved and accepted for himself. A place where it won’t matter what his name is or who his parents are. That safety is YOU and YOUR HUSBAND. My Italian grandma couldn’t pronounce my name, so she called me a whole different name. She could have called me any name in the world and I wouldn’t have cared, she was total love, My parents were great, I grew up very happy, but there was never anyone like my grandma. You and your husband pick a nickname for him, and that name will mean the world to him because he will always know that total love comes with it.
Alleykat, I know how hard the situation with your daughter is, and she needs to figure out why she is such an angry person. It does seem, in her own weird way, that naming her son after two prominent figures in the Bible, that she does have some connection to her Catholic roots…
Let your anger go, there is nothing you can do to change his legal name, she is his mother. Just let love for this little gift from God be what fills you. Keeping anger when you think of this baby is wrong, negative. This baby needs love, the positive, and to know God’s love for him. THAT is you and your husband’s job now.
God Bless you, your husband, and this Little One.
Be at peace, it is out of your hands. What this baby is going to need is LOTS of LOVE. He is going to grow up wondering why other kids live see their dad and he doesn’t. Then some day his mother is going to have to tell him that she doesn’t even know who his father is. Add that to him always wondering why he was given a name that he is teased about…
This little one can very easily grow up to be a very angry man making very bad choices. Growing up, he will need safe people and a safe place where he is loved and accepted for himself. A place where it won’t matter what his name is or who his parents are. That safety is YOU and YOUR HUSBAND. My Italian grandma couldn’t pronounce my name, so she called me a whole different name. She could have called me any name in the world and I wouldn’t have cared, she was total love, My parents were great, I grew up very happy, but there was never anyone like my grandma. You and your husband pick a nickname for him, and that name will mean the world to him because he will always know that total love comes with it.
Alleykat, I know how hard the situation with your daughter is, and she needs to figure out why she is such an angry person. It does seem, in her own weird way, that naming her son after two prominent figures in the Bible, that she does have some connection to her Catholic roots…
Let your anger go, there is nothing you can do to change his legal name, she is his mother. Just let love for this little gift from God be what fills you. Keeping anger when you think of this baby is wrong, negative. This baby needs love, the positive, and to know God’s love for him. THAT is you and your husband’s job now.
God Bless you, your husband, and this Little One.
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Francis
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Jude the Apostle , also known as Judas Thaddaeus, was one of the Twelve Apostles of Jesus. He is generally identified with Thaddeus, and is also variously called Jude of James, Jude Thaddaeus, Judas Thaddaeus or Lebbaeus. About St. Jude
Saint Jude was one of Jesus’ twelve original apostles, so we can conclude that he was also at the Last Supper. Saint Jude is also known by the name Thaddeus, which means sweetness and gentleness of character.
He is not the traitor Judas Iscariot.
Saint Jude, rather, followed Jesus faithfully until His crucifixion, and then later worked on evangelization. Very little is known about his life, but we do know that he died as a martyr — some say around 65AD, giving his life to Jesus Christ.
He is now one of the most invoked saints for intercession in desperate situations because his New Testament letter stressed the importance of a faithful person persevering in the environment of harsh circumstances.
So don"t worry Congratulations God Bless
Jude the Apostle , also known as Judas Thaddaeus, was one of the Twelve Apostles of Jesus. He is generally identified with Thaddeus, and is also variously called Jude of James, Jude Thaddaeus, Judas Thaddaeus or Lebbaeus. About St. Jude
Saint Jude was one of Jesus’ twelve original apostles, so we can conclude that he was also at the Last Supper. Saint Jude is also known by the name Thaddeus, which means sweetness and gentleness of character.
He is not the traitor Judas Iscariot.
Saint Jude, rather, followed Jesus faithfully until His crucifixion, and then later worked on evangelization. Very little is known about his life, but we do know that he died as a martyr — some say around 65AD, giving his life to Jesus Christ.
He is now one of the most invoked saints for intercession in desperate situations because his New Testament letter stressed the importance of a faithful person persevering in the environment of harsh circumstances.
So don"t worry Congratulations God Bless
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Francis
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ST. JUDE PRAYERS
This is a collection of inspirational prayers that you can choose from for praying the novena to St. Jude.
PRAYERS FOR SPECIAL INTENTIONS
“St. Jude, glorious apostle, faithful servant and friend of Jesus, the name of the person (who betrayed our Lord) has caused you to be forgotten by many, but the true Church invokes you universally as the Patron of things despaired of. Pray for me, who is so miserable; pray for me, that I may finally receive the consolations and the succour of Heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (ADD YOUR PERSONAL REQUEST HERE), and that I may bless God with the Elect Throughout Eternity.”
(NOTE: we have St. Jude Prayer Cards printed with above prayer available in our St. Jude Gift Shop)
“May the Sacred Heart of Jesus be Adored, Glorified, Loved & Preserved throughout the world, now & forever. Sacred Heart of Jesus, please pray for me. Saint Jude, Worker of Miracles, please pray for me. Saint Jude, Helper of the Hopeless, please pray for me. Amen.”
“O most holy apostle, St. Jude, faithful servant and friend of Jesus, people honor and invoke you universally, as the patron of hopeless cases, of things almost despaired of. Pray for me, for I am so helpless and alone. Please help to bring me visible and speedy assistance. Come to my assistance in this great need that I may receive the consolation and help of heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (state your request) and that I may praise God with you always.”
“I promise, O blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor, to always honor you as my special and powerful patron, and to gratefully encourage devotion to you by publishing this request. Amen.”
“Holy Saint Jude, Apostle and Martyr, Great in virtue and rich in miracles, Near kinsman of Jesus Christ, Faithful intercessor of all Who invoke your special patronage in time of need. To you I have recourse from the depths of my heart And humbly beg to whom God has given such great power To come to my assistance. Help me in my present and urgent petition, In return I promise to make your name known And cause you to be invoked. Saint Jude pray for me and all those who invoke your aid. Amen.”
The following prayers were graciously submitted by Mr. Joe Chatelle:
“Blessed Apostle St. Jude, we call upon you for help in hope and utmost confidence. St Jude renowned help of the hopeless, come to my aid in this time of distress. St. Jude, cousin of our Lord, obtain from our Savior the favors I now need and seek, especially _________.”
“Glorious St. Jude with faith in your goodness I ask your help today. As
one of Christ’s chosen Apostles, you remain a pillar and foundation of His
Church on earth. You are counted we know, among the elders who always stand before God’s throne. From your place of glory we know you do not forget the needs and difficulties of Christ’s little ones here still struggling, like me, on the way home to God. Please intercede for me, gracious St. Jude, and be with me in my daily toil and in all my necessities, especially _________. In Christ’s name, I appeal to you again today. Amen.”
This is a collection of inspirational prayers that you can choose from for praying the novena to St. Jude.
PRAYERS FOR SPECIAL INTENTIONS
“St. Jude, glorious apostle, faithful servant and friend of Jesus, the name of the person (who betrayed our Lord) has caused you to be forgotten by many, but the true Church invokes you universally as the Patron of things despaired of. Pray for me, who is so miserable; pray for me, that I may finally receive the consolations and the succour of Heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (ADD YOUR PERSONAL REQUEST HERE), and that I may bless God with the Elect Throughout Eternity.”
(NOTE: we have St. Jude Prayer Cards printed with above prayer available in our St. Jude Gift Shop)
“May the Sacred Heart of Jesus be Adored, Glorified, Loved & Preserved throughout the world, now & forever. Sacred Heart of Jesus, please pray for me. Saint Jude, Worker of Miracles, please pray for me. Saint Jude, Helper of the Hopeless, please pray for me. Amen.”
“O most holy apostle, St. Jude, faithful servant and friend of Jesus, people honor and invoke you universally, as the patron of hopeless cases, of things almost despaired of. Pray for me, for I am so helpless and alone. Please help to bring me visible and speedy assistance. Come to my assistance in this great need that I may receive the consolation and help of heaven in all my necessities, tribulations, and sufferings, particularly (state your request) and that I may praise God with you always.”
“I promise, O blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor, to always honor you as my special and powerful patron, and to gratefully encourage devotion to you by publishing this request. Amen.”
“Holy Saint Jude, Apostle and Martyr, Great in virtue and rich in miracles, Near kinsman of Jesus Christ, Faithful intercessor of all Who invoke your special patronage in time of need. To you I have recourse from the depths of my heart And humbly beg to whom God has given such great power To come to my assistance. Help me in my present and urgent petition, In return I promise to make your name known And cause you to be invoked. Saint Jude pray for me and all those who invoke your aid. Amen.”
The following prayers were graciously submitted by Mr. Joe Chatelle:
“Blessed Apostle St. Jude, we call upon you for help in hope and utmost confidence. St Jude renowned help of the hopeless, come to my aid in this time of distress. St. Jude, cousin of our Lord, obtain from our Savior the favors I now need and seek, especially _________.”
“Glorious St. Jude with faith in your goodness I ask your help today. As
one of Christ’s chosen Apostles, you remain a pillar and foundation of His
Church on earth. You are counted we know, among the elders who always stand before God’s throne. From your place of glory we know you do not forget the needs and difficulties of Christ’s little ones here still struggling, like me, on the way home to God. Please intercede for me, gracious St. Jude, and be with me in my daily toil and in all my necessities, especially _________. In Christ’s name, I appeal to you again today. Amen.”
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heidi_storage
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Look, given the daughter’s history and beliefs, I’m pretty confident Daughter’s trying to annoy her mother. (Which is childish.) What Mom needs to do is determine for herself in what way she’s willing to support Daughter/Grandson, without resentment, and stick to whatever boundaries she deems necessary.
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BlueEyedLadies
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First, CONGRATULATIONS on the birth of your grandson - that’s the important thing here.
As for his name…yeah, it sucks, but probably not as bad as you think. As someone outside the faith, if I found out that someone was named ‘Judas’, I would probably assume there was another biblical figure with that name. Judging from the responses in this thread, I’d be right.
So, there’s that. I didn’t know the sex of my baby beforehand, so we talked boy and girl names and hubby and I both lamented the connotation of ‘Judas’ with betrayal, because it is a lovely name.
As for his middle name, most people won’t know it. When they hear it, they’re just as likely to think his mom was very religious as they are to think irreverent.
When people hear both together, they’ll probably think his parents were angry, attention-seeking people who may or may not have been in a crappy garage metal band. But that’s no reflection on him, or on you.
If your daughter is the type to use her child’s name to poke her own parents in the eye, this baby will need all of the rational, loving people around him possible.
As for his name…yeah, it sucks, but probably not as bad as you think. As someone outside the faith, if I found out that someone was named ‘Judas’, I would probably assume there was another biblical figure with that name. Judging from the responses in this thread, I’d be right.
So, there’s that. I didn’t know the sex of my baby beforehand, so we talked boy and girl names and hubby and I both lamented the connotation of ‘Judas’ with betrayal, because it is a lovely name.As for his middle name, most people won’t know it. When they hear it, they’re just as likely to think his mom was very religious as they are to think irreverent.
When people hear both together, they’ll probably think his parents were angry, attention-seeking people who may or may not have been in a crappy garage metal band. But that’s no reflection on him, or on you.
If your daughter is the type to use her child’s name to poke her own parents in the eye, this baby will need all of the rational, loving people around him possible.
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Paul71
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Unfortunately, that sounds about right. In fact “Judas Messiah” sounds like it could be the name of a crappy metal band. But as you say, that is a reflection on the parents, and most people probably won’t know the middle name anyway. And the grandparents can consider calling him Jude, or even Judah.
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lilypadrees
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The baby’s name isn’t up to you to decide. It’s up to his parents. Your grandson is healthy and will hopefully, grow up happy and a joy to those he meets in life.
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