My experience at Tridentine Mass

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Caveat: This is going to be long, so if you don’t like reading, you might want to skip over this thread. As it stands, I had to break it into two separate posts to fit it into the text limit.

I also want to apologize in advance for starting what could be another “SSPX vs. Novus Ordo” or “SSPX vs. FSSP” thread. The last thing I want to do is start more drama on the subject. I did do a search on the forum to see if this has been addressed yet, but I couldn’t find anything that touched on exactly what I am looking for. So here goes:​

I attended my first Tridentine Mass today. Well, not my first ever, but my first in a very long time. I had attended a few Latin Masses about a decade ago when my older brother (SSPX) got married and then again when I visited my brother for the holidays and attended Mass with his family. I was very young back then however and I didn’t really retain anything from the experience other than the basic idea of how it works.

I have been studying any and all resources I can find on the Traditional Latin Mass for the past few months, in preparation for the conversion to the Extraordinary Form, but it’s one of those things that you really have to expose yourself to (several times) to really get. Reading about it just isn’t going to fully prepare you for what to expect or what is expected of you.

If anybody is interested in more background on my decision or why I am doing this, you can read the recent thread I started “Trapped in TN”.

So anyway, we made a dry run on Saturday to find the exact location of the church, see how long it takes to get there, parking, etc… We met the parish priest and also a very nice older man that opened the church for us and showed us around. He was a member of the SSPX who lives on Church property for free in return for maintenance services etc…

It’s sort of a wierd situation. The guy is a member of the SSPX, but this particular church is not an SSPX church. It’s a NO church that offers the Tridentine Mass on the 3rd Sunday of every month. So while this guy does maintenance for this Church and is technically a member of the parish, he really doesn’t attend Mass there, he travels to the closest SSPX Church instead.

We got to talking, and he asked me what compelled me to seek out the Tridentine Mass. I told him that my wife and I were seeking something more reverent than the NO Mass we were currently attending in our home town and also explained some of the concerns I have been having about the current state of affairs with the USCCB and liberalism in the church etc… I explained that I was also concerned with the language changes that were made at VII regarding the Consecration and with Eucharistic Ministers distributing the Host etc… Basically all the items that many traditional Catholics are concerned about.

He asked me if I knew about the SSPX, and I told him I did and that my brother was a member of the SSPX. I also told him that my wife and I support the FSSP with monetary donations, and although there isn’t an FSSP church in our area, we do plan on relocating to a place where the FSSP is available to us.

After I explained all of this to him, I could kind of sense that he disapproved of the FSSP. I asked him to explain his stance on this, and he really couldn’t articulate it with anything substantial. He said something to the effect of “the FSSP is in the Pope’s pocket” (whatever that means) and that they are still not in communion with the true teachings of the Universal Church and basically alluded to the fact that anything short of the SSPX is no good…

I didn’t press the issue. As I said, I have experience with my brother being a member of the SSPX, and I have been subject to the “apologetics” employed by members of the SSPX, so I understand how passionate they are about their beliefs and that you probably won’t move them off of any stance they currently hold. So I redirected the conversation to something else.

But it sort of left me with a bad taste in my mouth.
I was under the impression that the bulk of what the SSPX is opposed to is the Novus Ordo’s use of the new Missal, the changes made in the language of the consecration and the overall liberalism that seems to be running rampant in the Church. But I also thought that if I could find a Church that used the 1962 Missal, had proper consecration and adhered to all of the same standards as the SSPX, but was ALSO in full communion with Rome, I would be okay.

Now it seems like even that isn’t good enough.
What does “In the Pope’s pocket” mean? Is it just one of those things that no matter how much an organization adheres to the same teachings as the SSPX, it will never be good enough? It will never be “traditional” enough? I’m starting to wonder if the SSPX isn’t happy unless you are against the Pope. And if that’s the case, then I am even more scared of the SSPX then I was before. Because that would mean that everything they preach is a bunch of nonsense. It would mean that they hide behind the cloak of traditionalism, when what they really want is sedevacantism.

Obviously I don’t want to take one person’s word about these things, so I called my brother when I got home and, much to my surprise, he essentially echoed what this guy was saying. He couldn’t provide any more clarity on why the FSSP is not a good option however and he was about as vague in his explanation as this guy was.

Can somebody please explain to me what problem the SSPX has with the FSSP?
 
This whole situation has raised more questions than it has answered for me. In discussing these issues with my brother, he also told me that I would be better off staying home on Sunday and praying a rosary than attending Mass at a Novus Ordo Church, which blew me away because I NEVER thought I would hear my brother say that you shouldn’t fulfill your Sunday obligation.

I also had some problems with this Tridentine Mass itself.
Because the Mass is only offered on the 3rd Sunday of every month, I get the feeling that many people come from distances to observe the Mass. It’s sort of a novelty. But because it isn’t a parish that regularly celebrates this Mass, nobody had a clue what they were doing. It was more of a horse and pony show. I was practically waiting for somebody to pull a camera out.

It ended up being no more reverent than the NO Mass I regularly attend, and in fact it was less reverent. People were walking around, showing up 10-15 minutes late, talking through the Service and were dressed completely inappropriately.

It was almost amusing to see women showing up in hot pants and windbreakers with mantillas on their heads. As if wearing the mantilla made up for the fact that they had a skirt that barely covered their upper thigh. My wife and I went out and purchased some new clothes (a new black shin-length dress for my wife and a suit for me) in order to be appropriately dressed. Apparently that was a waste of a few hundred bucks…

Also, the “visitor guide” they hand out was of absolutely no use. Not only did the Mass not seem to follow the guide book, but since nobody knows Latin, the guide did very little to help people follow along. At various points in the Mass, people were looking around at others to see what they were supposed to be doing. And since nobody else knew what they were supposed to be doing, it ended up being the blind leading the blind. At various times you could see some people standing, some kneeling and some sitting. Most were looking around to see if everyone else was as befuddled as they were. And we were.

I came to the realization that having a Latin to English guide book does very little to help you follow the Mass because just having the Latin next to the English isn’t enough. You can’t just pick up Latin from looking at some Latin text next to English text. There are other factors that come into play, such as phonetics, emphasis on certain syllables etc… Often times you could be looking at the Latin text and still not know what’s going on because the pronunciation sounds nothing like the spelling. And the fact that they were chanting the Latin made it doubly impossible to follow.

**So my next question is; do people that regularly attend Latin Mass speak fluent Latin?? Because I find it extremely hard to believe that there are that many people in this country that speak fluent Latin. **

I’m thinking about going out and buying Rosetta Stone Latin, just so I can be fluent enough to understand what’s happening. But that would be a Ruthian endeavor. I’m 35-years old and I can’t imagine how difficult it would be to pick up a new (and ancient) language in my spare time. And even then, would Rosetta Stone teach me the form of Latin I would need to understand the language of this Mass?

We made a point of speaking to the priest prior to attending this Mass specifically so we wouldn’t be lost and look foolish. He recommended that we sit towards the back of the Church and just watch what everyone else does… but this proved futile. The only thing sitting in the back of the Church did was cause us to be unable to hear anything the priest was saying. And as I mentioned, watching to see what everyone else was doing was also futile because nobody else knew what they were doing either.

Last but not least, we grabbed the Sunday paper on the way home from Church only to find this article:

tennessean.com/article/20100221/NEWS06/2210372/Married+Catholic+priest+will+be+Nashville+diocese+s+first+
Prentice Dean will be ordained as a Catholic priest on Monday — while his wife watches.
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The former Episcopal priest and father of two will become the first married priest in the Nashville diocese.
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He resigned from the Episcopal Church because he thought the denomination had moved away from traditional Christianity. He converted to Catholicism five years ago, and, after Monday, he’ll be celebrating Mass, hearing confessions and handling all the responsibilities of a priest.
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We were looking at the photo in the article and were blown away when we realized, THIS WAS THE PRIEST THAT WE RECEIVED THE EUCHARIST FROM!!!

I couldn’t believe it! I traveled to a Tridentine Mass to receive the Eucharist from an Episcopal priest who is married!! Are you kidding me?!

I have to admit, this whole experience has just blown my mind. I never thought that trying to do the right thing and be a good Catholic would be this confusing and this difficult. I have to believe that this whole situation is not anywhere near what Jesus wanted for us. It’s getting out of hand. You ask 1000 different people about these issues, you get a 1000 different answers and 999 of them have you going to Hell.

I don’t expect to get any clarity on it. Honestly, I don’t even know why I spent the better part of the last hour typing this all out. But if even one person can give me clarity on any of this, I suppose it will be worth it.

So there it is… have at it.
 
Oooh, I wish I had more time for you this morning. Sorry to hear you had such a bad experience. 😦 I’ll come back later with more thoughts, maybe.

Is that place the only Latin Mass option in your area?
 
Yikes! Sounds like a complex situation. 😦

Regarding the SSPX v. FSSP issue, one big “issue” that the SSPX has (that I know about) is that they view the FSSP as “compromising” because, in certain circumstances, FSSP Priests are placed in Parishes where they say both the TLM and the Novus Ordo Mass. Because of this, many SSPX Priests feel like these Priests in the FSSP are being a “servant of two masters” in a sense by advocating for a return to Tradition while also celebrating a Mass that the SSPX feels is inconsistent with tradition.

This is my really brief glossing over of the issue, but you can also read what the SSPX “official yet unofficial” position is here:

sspx.org/SSPX_FAQs/q13_fraternity.htm

The FSSP may also have some literature about this disagreement, but I wasn’t able to locate anything specific on their website:

fssp.org/en/index.htm

(As a footnote, I was really fortunate to live in a diocese for the past few years where the SSPX and FSSP were located within 2 miles of each other and shared a very good relationship, so a lot of these issues weren’t really problematic. Once the exommunications were lifted, the local SSPX chapel had to fill the aisle and sides of the aisles with folding chairs to accomodate the influx of members from the FSSP Church down the road. 😉 )

The problem with the TLM at your Novus Ordo Parish is a difficult one. It is commendable that they are offering a TLM there (that’s rare, believe me!) but also presents a problem where the vast majority of the congregation, including the Priest, are unfamiliar with the Liturgy and the Rubrics. In such a situation, I can understand how the general confusion may make it seem like there is a need to be fluent in Latin or something.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Unfortunately, in a situation where Priests who say the TLM are in short supply, the solution isn’t as simple as finding an experienced Priest to “teach” yours the rubrics. Trial and error may be the only method, so pray for patience and don’t give up on the dress at Mass! People will come around eventually as evidenced by the fact that, when people show up inappropriately dressed at (most) traditional parishes, when they choose to return, they dress appropriately. Again, the problem is simply not knowing any better and I doubt one of actual maliciousness on the part of anyone attending Mass.

Give it time. After all, it’s been 40 years and the Church is just getting back into the traditional swing of things. There will be an adjustment period, so, as hard as it may seem, patience and perseverance will be the order of the day.

Best of luck and I hope that things will start improving for you! 🙂
 
Well first lets clarify a few things. Neither the caretaker of the Church youi visited or your brother are members of the SSPX. They may support the SSPX but they are not members of it so anything that they say would more than likely reflect their own personal views and not necessarily those of the SSPX. The SSPX is a religious society and does not have a third order that I am aware of.

That being said, the majority of SSPX members and suporters that I have encountered over the years believe that the FSSP is a sell out to the Vatican and to the Novus Ordo,Mass or the Ordinary Form, with which they find great fault. Great fault indeed. Some believe that the Vatican has either explicitly abandoned the true faith, is in the process of doing so or has become so ecumenically minded that it has forgotten what the true faith is and is in fact promoting something new and decidely different and calling it Catholicism. Others believe that the Vatican allowed something to happen, it didn’t work well and now they cannot fix it. Since the FSSP does on occasion celebrate the Ordinary Form of the Mass, and in some cases are required to, they are seen as roughly being in the same boat.

Now on to the Mass itself. You said this Mass is offered once a month. That was not an unusual situation in the days of the indult prior to Pope Benedicts new decree on it. I have always felt that the local Bishops restricted it in this way for several reasons, one of which was to keep a relatively stable group from attending in the first place. You know make it inaccesible and they will forget about it. It worked. It kept many areas from developing a true base community for the Traditional Mass and led to general ignorance on the part of the laity and in some cases the clergy concerning how it was to be celebrated.

You stated that the Mass itself was no more reverent than your local Novus Ordo. Mass was with people dressed inappopriately and not knowing what was going on. That would indicate to me that the majority of those there were either first timers or relative novices to the Traditional Mass.The dress factor alone should tell you that. It is not unusual to see women in hot pants, do they still call them that?, halter tops or micro mini skirts or men in Tee shirts and shorts at Ordinary Form Masses. It is however almost unheard of to see them at Extraordinary Form Masses, except in thirld world countries where such dress is the norm and people have not much else… The fact that no one knew what was going on seems to validate that assumption. If you had a stable group that had been attending this Mass for years I can assure you such incidents as you describe would not be the norm and would in fact be an aberration.

As far as the use of Latin, I don’t speak it, I don’t understand it, except for the Mass, nor does anyone that I know, but I really don’t have to. The Missal used in the Traditional Rite has the vernacular translation printed on the opposite page and is not hard to follow. But you really don’t even have to use that. One of the things about the Traditional Mass that so many these days find incomprehensible is that you do not have to be in lock step with everybody else in order for the Mass to be valid. The general idea these days seems to be that since we worship as a community then everyone must of necesity be doing the exact same thing at the exact same time in order for the worship to be meaningful. That is not the case in the Traditional Mass. In it the Priests and servers are tightly restricted but the laity have a great deal of freedom in how they worship. There are also visual clues that the Priest does at ceratin times in the Mass that indicate where he is in the Mass. By watching him as he performs the Sacrifice you should know where he is at all times. It will take a while to learn them but it is actually really simple.

On to the Priest. The Chucrh allows some married Priests. If that Priest is knowledgeable about the Traditional Mass and knows how to properly celebrate it then there is no problem whatsoever with him doing so. If on the other hand he does not know how to celebrate it then there is a problem. A big problem actually.

I hope that this has answered some of the questions that you have…
 
As far as the SSPX vs. FSSP thing goes, a lot of SSPX priests view their FSSP brothers as “traitors” (the exact wording used by an FSSP priest, when I asked). They simply gave up too easily, and resubmitted to the Pope. The link posted above is a good example of why I am hesitant to assist at an SSPX mass, despite the rather reasonableness of the Bishops in charge, the priests of the order seem to range from reasonable to extremists who are always one step short of calling the NO invalid and the Chair of Peter vacant.

Don’t get me wrong, some of the qualms the SSPX have are very valid, however, separating yourself from the Church is never the way to solve the problem.

As far as understanding the Mass, you should have all of the constant parts memorized (the Agnus Dei, Domine non sum dignus, etc.) or at least familiarized (longer parts like the Credo or Gloria) so that you can follow a long without reading. Second, Read over the prayers and readings(english version) before hand, so that you aren’t seeing them for the first time as they are being prayed. Next, if you pray along from the English side at a regular reading pace(faster or slower depending on how quick the Priest can say the Latin), you more or less end up at the same parts at the same time. The trick is to listen for Amens or the starts of new prayers, and that way you can tell if you are ahead or behind. Lastly, don’t worry about it. Most of the Mass is said in low voice because the Church doesn’t find it necessary for the congregation to hear the exact prayers. Offer your own prayers along with the priest’s. You have already read what he is going to be praying, so you know the feel of the Mass, offer your own intentions. The Canon offers prayers for the sick, the dying, the congregation. Lift up the people that you know that could use prayers. It’s obvious enough to see when the Consecration is taking place, so then you can focus on that, adore the Eucharist as it is elevated, and prepare yourself to receive him, either physically or through a spiritual communion. Don’t get so bogged down in the Missal that you forget that the Sacrifice is happening right in front of you. After a while the Mass will become familiar to you, and you will find it easier to tell when the priest is at what parts. The words “Nobis quoque peccatoribus” are a huge help, as they are pretty much the only loud words in the whole Canon, and are a great way to catch back up with where the priest is at in the prayers

I fear I went nearly as long as you questions:D, but I hope I was of some help
 
I forgot my last thought, which was on the particular Mass experience.

You must remember that the extraordinary form has not been taught in seminaries for over 40 years now(since it ceased being the ordinary form), meaning that any priest younger than about 65 has not had extensive training in the way to say the Mass. They may have taken a workshop and watched some videos and practiced. But not the years of preparation they would have received in Seminary. My experience is that old priests(those who did learn it and pray it prior to the changes) can fly through the Mass with great ease and comfort, while those who are still learning are slower and can stumble over the Latin (as we all do from the pews). As they become more familiar, they will begin to relax and find their stride. But at the beginning, priests are making sure they remember to say every prayer and do every action (because unfortunately, some from the congregation feel its their obligation to point it out rather harshly every time they don’t)

Serving the Mass (this is based on personal experience) is a nightmare. It is a lot to remember, especially at High Masses. Again, with practice, even sloppy serving will get corrected. Serving isn’t about doing the right thing all the time, its about making your mistakes look right, so if someone forgets something, you don’t jog across the sanctuary, you do it slowly and reverently, and most people won’t notice its out of place. As the servers become more comfortable with their duties, they will also settle in and look better. Altar Server practices are extremely helpful, but also extremely hard to coordinate with 6-7 different schedules.

The congregation is well, the congregation. Keep wearing nice clothes, and perhaps it will rub off. Even at the NO, I feel terrible if I don’t have at least pants and a collared shirt on, and if its at a proper church (I currently attend in a banquet room at a University, the whole thing is a little more casual as a result) a tie is a must as well. Lateness is something we Catholics can’t seem to shed, which is unfortunate, and talking may be a result of people being lost, and trying to find their place in the Mass, or simply ignorance. Here you can really only hope for a polite correction from the priest or a person in charge, and that the command is followed.
 
First off, THE MAIN ISSUE is that it’s highly probably you recieved the “eucharist” from someone who is NOT validly ORDAINED!!!

We know for a fact that the Anglican/Episcopalian Priestly consecrations are not valid. Some Anglicans, however, received their orders from Bishops who were validly ordained in the Catholic Church and then left for Anglicanism: this Deacon who celebrated “Mass” may be one of them but we do not know. Maybe the Bishop does. I would write your Bishop and let him know what happened.

Unbelievable, unbelievable, ubelievable!!

The news article you linked to says he was a DEACON and will be ORDAINED on MONDAY - how could he say Mass on Sunday if he’ll be ordained on Monday! This is hard to believe!!

You were asking why SSPX has issues with FSSP and Diocesan EF Priests and this is one of them (at least why they have issues with the Diocesan Priests).
 
I’ll add more:

It’s very commendable that you went out and spent some money on nice clothes. Surely people will take notice and may be inspired to do likewise. Even if they don’t God sees the effort you have made. Don’t worry about others unless you have little ones who may be scandalized by immodest dress - in which case you might want to sit up front or go to SSPX. One good thing about the SSPX is that you don’t see a lot of that stuff. You do see it in the FSSP and diocesan EF masses since people are transitioning from NO to TLM and it takes time to learn.
 
I was more intrigued at a former Episcopal priest consecrating the Eucharist…is that permissible? The article says the Catholic Church will ordain Dean a priest on Monday (that means today methinks). Presumably he is already ordained under a special provision but the article does not specify, it only says he will start his priestly duties on Monday. Then it of course goes on to make its on point about how unfair celibacy is 😛

SSPX does indeed have a Third Order, raised in post above.sspx.org/third_order.htm.

Also, in addition to the FAQ links provided in a post above, the SSPX will send a free box of booklets and pamphlets including the writings of Bishop Lefebvre to the SSPX positions on sedevacantism and the FSSP for the asking. I am not SSPX, I just point that out.

EDIT: oops, point already rasied while I typed…
 
I just got done doing a little digging on this Priest’s situation and it’s quite evident he is a transitional Deacon (until today) and is in fact being ordained this very moment.

So I guess my question to the OP is: When you say this is the “Priest” you received communion from are you meaning this is the Priest who said Mass or do you mean this DEACON assisted a Catholic Priest and helped distribute communion and you received from him?
 
RosaryCrusader said:
So I guess my question to the OP is: When you say this is the “Priest” you received communion from are you meaning this is the Priest who said Mass or do you mean this DEACON assisted a Catholic Priest and helped distribute communion and you received from him?
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Indeed, I may be gravely mistaken to have implied Dean consecrated the Eucharist. My apologies!
 
I think the OP was unclear on that… But according to the parish website it’s a Catholic Priest who says the TLM:

“A Tridentine Rite Mass is celebrated on the 3rd Sunday of the month at 12:30 p.m. by Father Fred Schmit, SDS.”

assumptionchurchnashville.org/site.php?view=frabraham

If this is indeed the Church in question… The Deacon, Prentice Dean, (formerly referred to as “the Priest” appears to be situated there).
 
I’ve no personal experience with the FSSP, but from what I’ve learned, the fraternity is solid and orthodox, as is the ICRSS. The FSSP sprang from the SSPX, and there are some SSPX clergy who consider the FSSP to be “traitors” simply because of sour grapes. It’s rare than a FSSP priest does the OF, but even so, (and I am not a fan of the OF in any way), what’s the big deal? I would imagine that an FSSP preist doing the OF would be doing so in its “reform of the reform” mode (at least as far as he is able within whatever limitations he may have to deal with), and that really isn’t so bad. While it is, admittedly, still a rarity, the “reform of the reform” of the OF is something that PP Benedict XVI seems to strive for.

As for the way Mass was offered, others have made good points about that. I’ll add that even if the priest isn’t very familiar with the rubrics, he should be able to get hold of an instructional DVD of which there are several available. (One such was produced by the Norbertine Fathers of St Michael’s Abbey who are very orthodox and who use both the EF and OF. As I understand it, the OF as offered by the Norbertines is in the “reform of the reform” mode and often at least partially in Latin. Someone from Southern California might be able to provide more detail on that.)

The one other thing I’ll comment on is a former Episcopal priest being ordained in the Catholic Church. Notice the word ordained, which means he was not received into the Church as a priest. He had to go through some theological formation. The fact that he is married means little: married men can be validly and licitly ordained priests in most of the Eastern and Oriental Churches (both CC and OC). (NB: the ordination of a married to the priesthood man is very different from allowing priests to marry. Contracting a marriage after ordination is forbidden in the East and Orient as well as the West. An Anglican priest who was not previously married and who was ordained in the Church, would not be able to contract a marriage.) The possibility of a married Anglican priest being ordained is part of the “Pastoral Provision” and also part of Anglicanorum Coetibus of PP Benedict XVI. Such a priest is then bound to the normal rules of the Church, which means that he may not contract marriage again under any circumstances, the same as any other priest, Eastern, Oriental, or Western.

My :twocents:
 
As for SSPX Steering people to sedevacantism - the opposite is true. In fact - the SSPX goes to great lengths to demonize sedevacantism. The fact that several Traditional Groups are at odds with other traditional groups - in this example SSPX verses FSSP only serves to illustrate the depth of the Modernist Heresy. Just as in the N O Church where Liberalism (Cafeteria Catholicism) is at war with Conservatism the same is true with Traditional Catholicism. As Pope Leo the XIII said - "When the Shepherd has been struck the Sheep will be scattered. " The real culprit is Heresy and the Heresy of Modernism called by Pope St Pius the X as the Synthesis of all Heresies.

So whats the solution? PRAY. Pray the 15 mystery Holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary and ask for Clarity. Do you think she will lead you away from her Divine Son? Our Lord said "Ask and ye shall recieve - Seek and ye shall find - Knock and it shall be opened unto you. " It may take a day and it may take 10 years but Our Lord will lead you to where he wants you to be. Be receptive to his GRACE. Your answers will come. In the mean time when Bishops or Priests tell you things - listen and reflect and pray on the things they say. There are contradictions because there is Heresy. but dont dwell on it - on who is or isnt right. Who is or isnt Pope. Pray. As St Alphonsus Ligouri taught - "Those who pray will save their souls and those who do not pray will lose their souls. "

Your answers will come. So ask.

Pax
 
**So my next question is; do people that regularly attend Latin Mass speak fluent Latin?? Because I find it extremely hard to believe that there are that many people in this country that speak fluent Latin. **

Okay, I’ll speak to this question. You need one of the red missals to get you started. Most chapels stock these. They have pictures of what the priest is doing during each of the prayers and parts of the Mass. That’ll help you. 🙂 It also tells you when to sit stand kneel for both the high and low Masses. The red missals don’t have the propers for the Gospel, epistle and other prayers, so you don’t have to flip back and forth, you just read it straight through. It has a standard reading for each of the propers. My advice is to stick with the red missal until you’re comfortable with all the parts of the Mass that don’t change.

Then, hang in, just keep going!!! I can’t emphasize that enough. Pretty soon you’ll feel like you’ve got the hang of it. You will know what the priest is saying, even though you don’t speak Latin because you’ll have read all the prayers so many times.

That’s pretty shocking that you received holy Communion from an Episcopal priest, but it was an honest mistake. What can you do? And your good clothes weren’t a waste of money, btw. Where ever you end up going to Mass, wear them for Our Lord regardless of how others dress. Perhaps you’ll help others to remember to wear their Sunday best, too! 🙂
 
<<<<Okay, I’ll speak to this question. You need one of the red missals to get you started >>>>

Mal: I use the St Josephs. It has Latin on the Left and English on the Right and it explains the actions of the Priest in addition. Also included - it has the Introit / Episitle / Gospel / Offertory / Secret / Communion and Post Communion for the day so you can read along as the Mass progresses. My Children have little trouble following along. An Adult should be able to function the first day if they have a missal.

Pax
 
Lamafacaja said:
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That’s pretty shocking that you received holy Communion from an Episcopal priest, but it was an honest mistake. What can you do? :)**

What are you saying?

He was a FORMER Episcopal priest, who is now an ordained Catholic priest, surely.
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paperwight said:
What are you saying?

He was a FORMER Episcopal priest, who is now an ordained Catholic priest, surely.
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Prentice Dean will be ordained as a Catholic priest on Monday — while his wife watches.

*The former Episcopal priest and father of two will become the first married priest in the Nashville diocese.

He resigned from the Episcopal Church because he thought the denomination had moved away from traditional Christianity. He converted to Catholicism five years ago, and, after Monday, he’ll be celebrating Mass, hearing confessions and handling all the responsibilities of a priest.*
 
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