My First Traditional (Dialogue!) Mass

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My associate, Fr. Brendan, was raised in Catholic schools before Vatican 2. All students had to attend the 9 am Sunday mass AND sing it all, including the propers!
Heck, they even did that with the public school kids. 🙂

Not kidding.
 
Saying the rosary during mass was more common in the early 20th century. By the 40’s the Father Stedman missal was quite common, and most were beginning to use it. I think it was distributed to those in the armed forces, in WWII and thereafter. and they brought it home.
 
bpbasilphx;5977151]I’m not denying your experience. I’m glad you were taught to attend to the Liturgy itself. This does NOT change the fact that apparently so few were properly instructed in this manner.
Please provide proof that “so few” were properly instructed. A link to this info would be fine.
Please do not deny my experience, or dismiss what I’ve seen with my own eyes as “second hand observations.”
Since you said, "My associate, Fr. Brendan, was raised in Catholic schools before Vatican 2. All students had to attend the 9 am Sunday mass AND sing it all, including the propers! that your claims about the education of my generation, re the Mass, came from your “associate”…the comment above doesn’t make sense.
With one exception, the Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom is celebrated with the priest facing east–the wall, if you prefer.
Smile much??
 
Saying the rosary during mass was more common in the early 20th century. By the 40’s the Father Stedman missal was quite common, and most were beginning to use it. I think it was distributed to those in the armed forces, in WWII and thereafter. and they brought it home.
I had forgotten about Father Stedman’s missal. In my parish, each child received the St. Joseph’s missal, (Thanks go to the Holy Name Societyfor that). However, when I reached high school the girls from another parish had received the Father Stedman missal. I would love to have that in addition to the one I have from the Angelus press. The kids keep asking me what I want for Christmas & I keep saying “nothing”. I may, however, change my response. I hate for them to spend money on me, they’ve got their children to buy for. However, it’s only 24.00…🙂

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I simply can’t believe that the suburban parish that I grew up in in the Archdiocese of New Orleans was “cutting edge” in the late 50s and early 60s. Our 10 and 12 Masses on Sunday were Missa cantata. Our 6 and 8 Masses were dialogue Masses. (Don’t scoff at 6am Masses on Sunday. Remember, we didn’t have air conditioning back then and it gets awfully hot really quick in NO during the summer.) Masses during the week were tacit Low Masses. All of our school Masses during the school week were dialogue Masses.

The Archdiocese of New Orleans covered an awful lot of territory back then. My wife was in a rural parish near Baton Rouge and an old friend was down in bayou Cajun country. Both of them had exactly the same experience as me. When I was in the Navy just after 1970, I had a good friend from Irontown, OH which is just on the West Virginia border. He grew up exactly the same. I understand that Canada was different but I would like to hear more from folks who were attending Mass from 1955 - 1965.

I have both of my St. Joseph Missals. My “little” (i.e. abbreviated) St. Joseph Missal given to me when I made my First Communion in 1958 and my “big” St. Joseph Missal given to me when I was Confirmed in 1963.

Bp. Basil - I suspect that there are simply not enough of us on CAF to disprove the myths being perpetuated. But I have the “been there; done that” medal. We did not kneel in the pews reciting our rosaries during Mass. I will, however, concede that I grew up in a parish which had a lot of little old Sicilian widows in black who did recite the rosary during Mass. They were the exception not the norm.
 
Saying the rosary during mass was more common in the early 20th century. By the 40’s the Father Stedman missal was quite common, and most were beginning to use it. I think it was distributed to those in the armed forces, in WWII and thereafter. and they brought it home.
I was meaning to ask you guys for some (name removed by moderator)ut on what is the best missal out there for TLM. Since I have no daily EF anywhere in my diocese I’ll probably just start off with a Sunday Missal (not that i have a Sunday EF near either but I’ll watch it live online from an FSSP parish in Sarasota). I’ve heard of Fr. Stedman’s do you guys recommend it? I would love a missal with plenty of devotions and a pretty good explanation of the EF Latin Rite and vestments. If it also has holy days and solemnities that would be awesome! Any recommendations?
 
I was meaning to ask you guys for some (name removed by moderator)ut on what is the best missal out there for TLM. Since I have no daily EF anywhere in my diocese I’ll probably just start off with a Sunday Missal (not that i have a Sunday EF near either but I’ll watch it live online from an FSSP parish in Sarasota). I’ve heard of Fr. Stedman’s do you guys recommend it? I would love a missal with plenty of devotions and a pretty good explanation of the EF Latin Rite and vestments. If it also has holy days and solemnities that would be awesome! Any recommendations?
I have the daily missal from Angelus Press. Like you, I have no access to the **daily **Mass, YEt, but got it just in case. Meanwhile, I have it for the Sunday TLM. that I attend.
It has the Kyriale in Gregorian Notation, daily prayers, devotions for before & after Mass, the acts of faith, hope & charity. I especially like the devotions before Confession. The only problem that I’ve had is that many of the devotions are in small print & my eyes are getting old…not me, just my eyes. 🙂
I’ve solved that problem though. The Print for the actual Mass is larger & very easy to read, still I take one of those page magnifiers with me for the other devotions or just read them at home. It’s not just a Mass missal, it’s that AND a prayer book. I love it!!

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