My friend says he receives Mary in the Eucharist?

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There is a big difference between those excommunicated and one elderly man whose devotion to Mary seems a bit over-the-top. He’s not an organization. He’s not writing. He’s not teaching. He’s just an elderly man who’s made an innocent mistake.
 
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The suggestion was made above that such a heretical understanding of the Eucharist should be excused because of the man’s age.
 
The priest said “deluded.” When I used the word ‘off-kilter’ i was trying to use a less arbitrary. By the way, the group is still together as they own the property.
 
This is an international group. They are located in at least three countries.

Would you provide the name of the priest you have found who says the AoM should not have been excommunicated?
 
Nope. That is your homework for the day. I looked it up and you can too!
 
I did not make the claim. The responsibility is upon the claimant.

If you do not know, just say so, that is fine.
 
TheLittleLady said:
The suggestion was made above that such a heretical understanding of the Eucharist should be excused because of the man’s age.
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The context must be considered. I don’t think I"ll be as sharp mentally in my 90th year of life, if I get that far.
 
All you need to do is google it and several articles will come up.
 
If you are referencing the group in Arkansas, you might want to read Monsignor’s statement in context " But somewhere along the line they fell into this Army of Mary and became entranced and deluded with this doctrine that is heretical.""

www.arkansas-catholic.org

Six nuns excommunicated for remaining in heretical group - Arkansas Catholic

Six sisters from the Monastery of Our Lady of Charity and Refuge in Hot Springs were excommunicated by the Catholic Church for their involvement in a schismatic association based in Quebec, Canada. It is believed to be the first time anyone in the Diocese of Little Rock has been formally...
www.arkansas-catholic.org www.arkansas-catholic.org

That article in no way implied the nuns were excommunicated in error nor were simply little old batty ladies who could not be responsible.
 
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TheLittleLady said:
The suggestion was made above that such a heretical understanding of the Eucharist should be excused because of the man’s age.
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It’s analogous to babies chewing on rosary beads. Should they be excommunicated? They haven’t reached the age of reason; there comes a point when we lose some of our mental clarity. This man seems to have reached that point. His friend tried to explain to him, but he did not understand. Mental clarity cannot be forced on some older people.
 
IIRC you are not the original poster. Do you also attend Mass with this man? Know his mental capacity?
ConstantLearner said:
It’s analogous to babies chewing on rosary beads. Should they be excommunicated?
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There is no prohibition against chewing on rosary beads.
 
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TheLittleLady said:
There is no prohibition against chewing on rosary beads.
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There should be. There are so many other things to make into stuff for kids to chew on. I also see kids wearing rosaries as necklaces. They are not teething rings or jewelry.
 
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Autumn-Smoke:
I hardly think his salvation is in danger. I can only imagine them putting their arms around him…maybe they would mention this to him, and maybe they wouldn’t. I couldn’t begin to say.
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From the information you’ve given, @Autumn-Smoke, your friend sounds like a lovely, and loving, man whose salvation is in absolutely no danger simply because he’s made a mistake. A mistake made out of love, too. If he can’t understand the correct explanation, he can’t. God understands this man’s limitations, I’m sure.

I hope to make it to eighty-nine, and if I do, I hope to be able to get around well.

God bless you and your friend.
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I think that this post is so beautifully and well-said. ❤️

In my own personal experience, the elderly that I have interacted with in this age range have naturally show some signs of cognitive issues by this time in their lives.

I agree with you in that we should be treating them with kindness and compassion. 🙂
 
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Thank you @oldgraymare2. I honestly think that’s how Jesus would treat him, with compassion.
 
TheLittleLady said:
The suggestion was made above that such a heretical understanding of the Eucharist should be excused because of the man’s age.
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Heresy is a deliberate choice of evil, not innocent misunderstanding. The idea that this loving man is even entertaining heresy is beyond ludicrous.
 
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He always asks me if I understand and agree with what he’s saying. I can only say I understand and keep on being nice to him. But I couldn’t say that I agree without feeling I was betraying my Lord and my own beliefs. He already knows that I disagree. He shocks me when he says things like this. He says he has thought a lot about this and he believes it to be true.

All I can do is pray about this and continue being gracious, as he is gracious to me.
 
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phil19034 said:
He’s also told me that Mary’s blood, too, has redeemed us because of this same sharing of Jesus in Mary’s blood. Would the church teach anything like this?
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Respectfully confused, pondering 🤔 having questions.

Mary’s blood comes also from her parents blood>> DNA>>
And Mary’s parents blood DNA is part of their parents and Mary"s grandparents, it continues down the line to great great grandparents, from one generation to another>>DNA?

So Blessed Mary’s flesh and blood is also from her Parents DNA and her Parents DNA comes from their grandparents and their great grandparents>DNA blood line right?>>>etc 🤔

Why Holy Scripture, prophecy is given as written, the Messiah ( Jesus) would come from the>>> Blood line of King David and Solomon, right??

If so does it seem to go through the Father blood line? Kingly blood line?
Or the Priestly blood line? 🤔

Was King David a King and High Priest also and did he come from the bloodline of the Tribe of Levi>>chosen priest>>why The book of Levi/ticus is call such, because as written, introduction>>makes up 1/3 of of the Priestly laws are given in the Book of Levi/ticus? 🤔

Now also Aaron was the High Priest in Moses times, Moses was not the High Priest was he?
Why Moses, repeats many times, as written>>God repeats, given instructions telling >Moses>>to tell Aaron ( High Priest) to tell his sons, the Nation of future up coming Priesthood? 🤔

High Priest chosen came from the blood line of Tribe of Levi>.chosen priest of God, did it or am I really confused now? 🤔

Peace>> yet still confused 🤔 referring to this Titled Topic>>in this discussion is Mary in the Eucharist>>> because Jesus comes from her DNA, blood and flesh also .❤️
 
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