My girlfriend is a Baptist

[Lutheranteach]

What I stated is the position of th Church. A Catholic parent may not allow his or her Children to be raised in another faith.

Yes, they really can, and they really do on a daily basis if push comes to shove because ending a marriage that is otherwise healthy over this issue would be very un-Catholic.

 

[CWBetts]

Yes, they really can, and they really do on a daily basis if push comes to shove because ending a marriage that is otherwise healthy over this issue would be very un-Catholic.

That is the fault of the parent. This needs to be discussed in pre-marriage counseling.

 

[Sophiethenerd]

People don’t “get saved” in an instantaneous event. Salvation is a lifetime effort and one must persevere to the end (Mt 10:22).

Relativism – the belief that one religion is as good as another – is rampant in Protestantism. A practicing Catholic is not a relativist. Catholics know that their Church alone was founded by Jesus Christ and teaches the full Revelation of God. Jesus gave us seven sacraments to help us get to heaven, and they are available only in the Catholic (and Orthodox) Churches.

All Protestant organizations, by contrast, are man-made and are based on their founder’s (or founders’) interpretation of the same incomplete Bible cut by Martin Luther. And all teach conflicting and competing doctrines. All claim to teach the truth, but no two agree on what the Bible means. The Catholic Church wrote the New Testament during the first Christian century and canonized and formed the Bible when she was nearly 400 years old. She is its only rightful interpreter.

The only assurance of salvation is to be Catholic and to follow the teachings of the Catholic Church. A Catholic who knows his faith would never expose his children to the relativisim of Protestantism. His (or her) solemn obligation is to raise his children in the True Faith.

A Catholic may feel his religion doesn’t matter while the hormones are pumping, but when reality sets in, he may find himself facing a lifetime of regret. It’s best to settle the religion question before marriage – and, unfortunately, many who agree to raise the children Catholic prior to the marriage do not fulfill their promise once the ring in on the finger. And the battles begin.

You misunderstood. If she’s accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior keeps it up, and he has, they’re both saved and part of the body of Christ. Everyone with a relationship with Jesus Christ is saved. I don’t see how you misunderstood what I said. Please explain. We all have the same Holy Spirit in us, and accepted the same Jesus Christ. Why does denomination matter? We’re all gonna end up in the same place after death/ the rapture.

 

[CWBetts]

You misunderstood. If she’s accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior keeps it up, and he has, they’re both saved and part of the body of Christ. Everyone with a relationship with Jesus Christ is saved. I don’t see how you misunderstood what I said. Please explain. We all have the same Holy Spirit in us, and accepted the same Jesus Christ. Why does denomination matter? We’re all gonna end up in the same place after death/ the rapture.

Not necessarily. We all have the same hope, but 'tis a bit arrogant to tell God he has to let us in heaven, agreed? To say you know 1005 theta you will be in heaven when you die is assuming that you will die in a state of grace, and presuming upon God. God is faithful to hear and answer our prayers, and God is merciful, as he provided a way to restore us to His family, but he is also just and holy. Why is it that so many seem to forget completely about God being Holy? Why do we fail to understand that seeing God is a traumatic experience? Yes the Beatific Vision will be amazing and beautiful, but at the same time, Isa 6"1-6 comes to mind.

And for the record: the so-called “rapture” is a fairy tale invented by Charles Darby

 

[rmstexas]

I am going to speak from experience.

When I was much younger, I made a very immature decision and married a Baptist girl. We knew that we had some differences, but thought we could work them out with prayer, faith, and family.

The differences were never resolved. There are lots of people in the Baptist church that think the Catholic Church is not Christian, thinks the Pope is evil, and on and on…

If you are not of the same faith, it can be very difficult.

My marriage lasted less than 2 years, no kids. She remarried a Baptist and had a family.

I went through the annulment process, got remarried Catholic and have a family.

All I can say is that if religion is a problem or issue now…it’s not going to go away.

 

[PaulDupre]

A bird may love a fish, but where will they build a home together?

 

[4Squarebaby]

A bird may love a fish, but where will they build a home together?

That’s close to saying that people who don’t share your faith are in fact not people. Perhaps a better analogy would be a Pit Bull terrier and a Poodle. And in fact the resulting family may not be the specialist breed but perhaps they do complement parts would be better overall.r

 

[PaulDupre]

That’s close to saying that people who don’t share your faith are in fact not people. Perhaps a better analogy would be a Pit Bull terrier and a Poodle. And in fact the resulting family may not be the specialist breed but perhaps they do complement parts would be better overall.r

Not that they are not people, but that they are not good candidates for marriage with a Catholic. The only reason someone would marry outside his/her faith is that the faith is not very important to them.

 

[Jon_Hus]

There are millions of potential life long spouses out there. To determine that one particular individual can be modified to fit a particular mold on an important issue such as the one under discussion is silly.

But it is a free society we live in.

 

[Jim_Dandy]

You misunderstood. If she’s accepted Jesus Christ as her Lord and Savior keeps it up, and he has, they’re both saved and part of the body of Christ. Everyone with a relationship with Jesus Christ is saved. I don’t see how you misunderstood what I said. Please explain. We all have the same Holy Spirit in us, and accepted the same Jesus Christ. Why does denomination matter? We’re all gonna end up in the same place after death/ the rapture.

Hi Sophie,

No, I don’t think I misunderstood.

(1) The Catholic Church is not a denomination; she is, rather, the nomination from which all other bodies calling themselves “Christian” have ultimately denominated. She is the Mother Church of all Christendom.

(2) What we believe matters because TRUTH matters. And the fullness of Christian Truth is found only in the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church – the Truth, the whole Truth, the nothing but the Truth. Catholicism is God-made. All other Christian" entities are man-made.

(3) “Dispensationalism” – of which “the Rapture” is a part – is the creation of John Nelson Darby, developed in or after 1827. The Catholic Church teaches the doctrines of Jesus Christ as taught by His Apostles – the “Rapture” is not among them. The Church teaches and has always taught that the events described in 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 will occur at the end of the world. So you are following Darby, not Christ.

(4) Catholics “accept Jesus as our personal Lord and Savior” every time we receive Holy Communion. Our relationship with Christ is so intimate that Christ’s Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity become part of us and nourish us and transform us. We are “partakers in the Divine Nature” 2 Peter 1:4.

(5) Your idea of “getting saved” developed in or after the 16th century. The relationship a Catholic has with Christ and His Church is not at all like a Protestant’s relationship. Been there, done that.

To be fair, Protestantism consists of many thousands of conflicting and competing denominations, all of them based on the same incomplete Bible cut by Martin Luther, but no two agreeing about what the Bible means. It is impossible to summarize all of Protestantism because of the vast number of disagreements among them. I write from my own experience. In marrying a committed Baptist, a Catholic risks that his children will be deprived of the Whole Truth.

I imagine life without the Eucharist and without Confession and the other Sacraments – a deadly choice for the souls of one’s children. Saying “no” to God is not an auspicious beginning for a marriage.

Jim Dandy, ex-Southern Baptist, ecstatic to be Catholic

 

[crazzeto]

this is again another misunderstanding.
when you are “Saved” you accept christ. But everyone works out their own salvation from then on. If anything the christian walk becomes harder. It isn’t once get saved you are done working… -_- far from it.

This is not a misunderstanding, as has been pointed out by another poster here. Point in fact, I understand very well this theology, and again, without getting into the particulars it has been rejected by the Catholic Church. In our view, it attempts to take the extrodinary, make it ordinary, and throw out normative salvation.

This is a big problem for a Catholic, very big indeed. If you would like to discuss the particulars of our differences in view of Salvation and Justification then I invite you to start a thread on this topic. Pertinate to this topic, it is enough to say the differences are grave enough to cause serious problem with the relationship with out a fair amount of constant effort on the part of both partners.

It might be possible for this relationship to work out, but it would require several things that might be difficult to accept.

1. The Childeren are raise Catholic
2. While the husband may (perhaps should) attend services with his wife at her church, this can not ever replace his attendance at a Catholic Service.
3. In the interests of familiar unity, she perhaps should also attend Catholic Mass.
4. There needs to be extrodenary respect among both people for the theological differences.

 

[laneo]

laneo, I missed if you mentioned your background but I see you have a fiancée. With all due respect, you don’t yet have the personal experience that some of us do. If your fiancée happens not to be Catholic, then I understand your position. I sincerely hope that it works out for you but as I commented in other posts, I think it will depend on the depth of your faiths (if you are both devout, expect a lot of heartbreak).

We will be fine. We attend Church and pray and discuss religious matters at time. To say we are devout would be false though.

I am far from being like any of you on here

 

[jpink1019]

(5) Your idea of “getting saved” developed in or after the 16th century. The relationship a Catholic has with Christ and His Church is not at all like a Protestant’s relationship. Been there, done that.

Been there, done that?
could you explain what you mean here?

 

[jpink1019]

This is not a misunderstanding, as has been pointed out by another poster here. Point in fact, I understand very well this theology, and again, without getting into the particulars it has been rejected by the Catholic Church. In our view, it attempts to take the extrodinary, make it ordinary, and throw out normative salvation.

This is a big problem for a Catholic, very big indeed. If you would like to discuss the particulars of our differences in view of Salvation and Justification then I invite you to start a thread on this topic. Pertinate to this topic, it is enough to say the differences are grave enough to cause serious problem with the relationship with out a fair amount of constant effort on the part of both partners.

It might be possible for this relationship to work out, but it would require several things that might be difficult to accept.

1. The Childeren are raise Catholic
2. While the husband may (perhaps should) attend services with his wife at her church, this can not ever replace his attendance at a Catholic Service.
3. In the interests of familiar unity, she perhaps should also attend Catholic Mass.
4. There needs to be extrodenary respect among both people for the theological differences.

I don’t understand.
A relationship with Christ Jesus is anything but ordinary.
And how is it contingent upon theology?

 

[Jim_Dandy]

Been there, done that?
could you explain what you mean here?

The difference between the relationship I had with Christ as a Protestant and now as a Catholic is comparable to the distance from earth to the moon. Then, I “knew” Him. Now, I not only “know” Him, but I share His Own Divine Life through the Sacraments He gives to me and all His children through His Church. Imagine the joy of sharing the Divine Life of God! That’s the way it was in original Christianity – and still is in His Church – world without end, Amen. Oh, Lord, I am not worthy . . .

Thanks for asking.

 

[Miserys_Fence]

OK, boys and girls, don’t make me use logic! :tsktsk:


Before marrying anyone–of your own religion or another–you both have to step back and take an honest look at where you are/are not willing to compromise…and do NOT let anyone else guilt you into thinking your priorities should be different.

If you are a neat freak and your significant other is a slob (or vice versa), can you live with that? FOREVER? OK, good!

If your spiritual beliefs are this and your significant other’s spiritual beliefs are that, can you live with that? FOREVER? If you answer “yes,” then don’t let anyone else tell you that you are selling out. You are no more “wrong” to compromise over religion than you are to compromise over housekeeping, if you are both comfortable with that. Some people would be; some people wouldn’t be. That’s not for me or anyone else to judge.

Before I met my fiancé, I dated an atheist. I didn’t try to convert him and he didn’t try to convert me. We respected each other’s opinions, and of all the things that we argued (politely) about–religion was NOT one.

If you and your fiancé have discussed your future spiritual life together and are both satisfied with what you’ve agreed to, then congratulations–you’re already miles ahead of most other couples in the world.

Miz

 

[jpink1019]

The difference between the relationship I had with Christ as a Protestant and now as a Catholic is comparable to the distance from earth to the moon. Then, I “knew” Him. Now, I not only “know” Him, but I share His Own Divine Life through the Sacraments He gives to me and all His children through His Church. Imagine the joy of sharing the Divine Life of God! That’s the way it was in original Christianity – and still is in His Church – world without end, Amen. Oh, Lord, I am not worthy . . .

Thanks for asking.

so probably the biggest difference would be the sacraments that you have now?
And this changed your relationship with Christ?

 

[CWBetts]

so probably the biggest difference would be the sacraments that you have now?
And this changed your relationship with Christ?

Of course that sacraments change your relationship with Christ! The sacraments aren’t merely man-mad rituals, they are efficacious signs of God’s grace!

 

[Jim_Dandy]

OK, boys and girls, don’t make me use logic! :tsktsk:


Before marrying anyone–of your own religion or another–you both have to step back and take an honest look at where you are/are not willing to compromise…and do NOT let anyone else guilt you into thinking your priorities should be different.

If you are a neat freak and your significant other is a slob (or vice versa), can you live with that? FOREVER? OK, good!

If your spiritual beliefs are this and your significant other’s spiritual beliefs are that, can you live with that? FOREVER? If you answer “yes,” then don’t let anyone else tell you that you are selling out. You are no more “wrong” to compromise over religion than you are to compromise over housekeeping, if you are both comfortable with that. Some people would be; some people wouldn’t be. That’s not for me or anyone else to judge.

Before I met my fiancé, I dated an atheist. I didn’t try to convert him and he didn’t try to convert me. We respected each other’s opinions, and of all the things that we argued (politely) about–religion was NOT one.

If you and your fiancé have discussed your future spiritual life together and are both satisfied with what you’ve agreed to, then congratulations–you’re already miles ahead of most other couples in the world.

Miz

Christianity is a revealed religion. We either believe what God revealed (Catholicism), or we can decide for ourselves what we think is true based on our own or someone else’s interpretation of the Scriptures (Protestantism). If we choose the latter, it’s opinion, not Revelation, except in those areas where our opinion may coincide with Catholicism.

The Catholic Faith was “once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 3) by Christ through His Apostles.

Peace be with you. Jim Dandy

 

[Sophiethenerd]

Not necessarily. We all have the same hope, but 'tis a bit arrogant to tell God he has to let us in heaven, agreed? To say you know 1005 theta you will be in heaven when you die is assuming that you will die in a state of grace, and presuming upon God. God is faithful to hear and answer our prayers, and God is merciful, as he provided a way to restore us to His family, but he is also just and holy. Why is it that so many seem to forget completely about God being Holy? Why do we fail to understand that seeing God is a traumatic experience? Yes the Beatific Vision will be amazing and beautiful, but at the same time, Isa 6"1-6 comes to mind.

And for the record: the so-called “rapture” is a fairy tale invented by Charles Darby

I have know idea what the 1005 theta is.

We were saved by grace: Jesus took our punishment for us, on the cross. Christ promised all we have to do is believe ( John 5:24) to be saved.

Actually, there is some Biblical evidence for the rapture: the word just isn’t there. Like the word Bible isn’t in the Bible.