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My worst fears was confirmed tonight. My son who married an anti-Catholic woman has told us that he has left the church and his new baby will not be baptized.

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be
done, on earth as it is in heaven Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our
trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from evil. Amen

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee
blessed art thou among women and
blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
Holy Mary mother of God pray for us
sinners now and at the hour of our death
Amen.

Glory Be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning is now ever shall be world without end Amen

I would like some advise. I don’t know how to handle this.
 
O my Jesus
Forgive us our sins,
save us from the fires of Hell
lead all souls to Heaven
especially those most in need of thy mercy.
AMEN

St. Michael the Archangel,
defend us in battle.
Be our defense against the wickedness and snares of the Devil.
May God rebuke him, we humbly pray,
and do thou,
O Prince of the heavenly hosts,
by the power of God,
thrust into hell Satan,
and all the evil spirits,
who prowl about the world
seeking the ruination of souls. Amen
 
Dear Jesus, give us light and hope when everything seems dark and hopeless. Be our constant refuge. Please heal adrift’s son. Bring him back into your church, the communion of your saints.
 
I’m praying for your son tonight with the Holy Rosary, okay? It’s going to be okay. Our Lord can bring him back. Don’t give up!
 
A PRAYER FOR A LOVED ONES RETURN TO THE FAITH.

Dear Lord
You became man, suffered and died to win salvation for all souls.
Look graciously on the soul of my loved one who has drifted away from you and the faith. Grant (n) your grace to see the error of his/her ways and return to the fold in your care.
Teach me to stay close to (n) during this trying time and strive to convert him/her by action and prayers more than by words that may antagonize.
Sacred Heart of Jesus, i trust you to do everything to bring my loved one back to you.
AMEN
 
Prayers going up for your son and his precious child.

You asked for advice. Here goes … I am in a situation where a family member who is generally quite anti-Catholic DID agree to have her little girl baptised - and admitted freely that she did so purely so the child would have a better chance of getting into a good religious school. Would it really make you happier to know that it was done for motives as trivial as that? It didn’t make me happy.

Remember baptism is not an end in itself, it requires a commitment on the part of the parents to bring up the child in the faith. In addition, the fact of baptism places extra obligations on that child when they come to be married and so on, that would not be there otherwise.

Many who are baptised but not brought up Catholic are resentful if and when they do come to find this out - eg if they revert to the church in adulthood and find that their marriage is irregular - possibly even invalid and unable to be validated - because it did not take place according to Canon law and previous marriages cannot be annulled according to Canon law either.

Sometimes it opens up a whole can of worms, and sometimes it does behove people who do not believe to at least be honest about it.
 
LilyM said:
Prayers going up for your son and his precious child.

You asked for advice. Here goes … I am in a situation where a family member who is generally quite anti-Catholic DID agree to have her little girl baptized - and admitted freely that she did so purely so the child would have a better chance of getting into a good religious school. Would it really make you happier to know that it was done for motives as trivial as that? It didn’t make me happy.

Remember baptism is not an end in itself, it requires a commitment on the part of the parents to bring up the child in the faith. In addition, the fact of baptism places extra obligations on that child when they come to be married and so on, that would not be there otherwise.

Many who are baptized but not brought up Catholic are resentful if and when they do come to find this out - eg if they revert to the church in adulthood and find that their marriage is irregular - possibly even invalid and unable to be validated - because it did not take place according to Canon law and previous marriages cannot be annulled according to Canon law either.

Sometimes it opens up a whole can of worms, and sometimes it does behove people who do not believe to at least be honest about it.
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Thank you for your response. The reason I mentioned the baptism is my son was asked when he would baptize the baby and that is when we found out he was no longer Catholic. He said he was going to baptize himself which does not make me happy. The children will not be raised Catholic and will be raised with anti-Catholic bias.
Thank you for your insight and prayers.
 
adrift said:
Thank you for your response. The reason I mentioned the baptism is my son was asked when he would baptize the baby and that is when we found out he was no longer Catholic. He said he was going to baptize himself which does not make me happy. The children will not be raised Catholic and will be raised with anti-Catholic bias.
Thank you for your insight and prayers.
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Oh, so HE is going to baptise the child? Well, if that is the case then rest assured that as long as it is a water baptism the Trinitarian formula it is considered valid by the Catholic Church, and effectively washes away original sin as a Catholic baptism would. So that is one less worry.

Of course I understand that you are anxious about the prospect of the child not being raised Catholic - but many of our great Saints were not, so don’t lose hope.
 
LilyM said:
Oh, so HE is going to baptise the child? Well, if that is the case then rest assured that as long as it is a water baptism the Trinitarian formula it is considered valid by the Catholic Church, and effectively washes away original sin as a Catholic baptism would. So that is one less worry.

Of course I understand that you are anxious about the prospect of the child not being raised Catholic - but many of our great Saints were not, so don’t lose hope.
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Thank you I needed to read that.
 
Cruxis117 said:
I’m praying for your son tonight with the Holy Rosary, okay? It’s going to be okay. Our Lord can bring him back. Don’t give up!
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I didn’t see your post. I don’t know the pull of women is very strong.
When they got married I thought they would either be divorced or he wouldn’t be a Catholic by their 7th anniversary. How tragic for me that this is the case. Their 7th anniversary is next month

I appreciate your kindness more than you could know. Thank you for your words and your prayers. I guess I will have to be like Monica. I hope that it will turn out the same way.

To everyone who has said a prayer for me. I am very grateful.
 
adrift said:
My worst fears was confirmed tonight. My son who married an anti-Catholic woman has told us that he has left the church and his new baby will not be baptized.

Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be
done, on earth as it is in heaven Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our
trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation
but deliver us from evil. Amen

Hail Mary full of grace the Lord is with thee
blessed art thou among women and
blessed is the fruit of thy womb Jesus
Holy Mary mother of God pray for us
sinners now and at the hour of our death
Amen.

Glory Be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning is now ever shall be world without end Amen

I would like some advise. I don’t know how to handle this.
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Hi adrift I don’t know if this will help but I have a similar situation with my eldest son and his son (our grandson) is not baptised.In fact my eldest son is very anti the catholic church and has been for a few years now. My husband and I deal with it as subtly as we can.We casually drop into conversation that we are going to Mass,or that we took our another grandson to Mass.We avoid telling him what he should or should not do.Initially I asked him and his partner if they had thought about baptism.I got such negative responses (which I won’t repeat)…that was three years ago.Since then my son has softened his attitude a little and talks more warmly not so angrily about catholic church matters.
My advice is to take things softly softly and gradually with much prayer and example from you of love and consistency and dropping the odd casual positive remark about the catholic church…very casual initially! Your son’s heart will soften.God will hear our prayers and help our children and grandchildren return to His church,in His time.I like you was very worried and have to accept there is nothing I can actually do other than trust in God to guide me my children and grandchildren to Him.
God bless you

Memorare (Prayer to Our Lady)
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen
 
tbcrawford said:
Hi adrift I don’t know if this will help but I have a similar situation with my eldest son and his son (our grandson) is not baptized.In fact my eldest son is very anti the catholic church and has been for a few years now. My husband and I deal with it as subtly as we can.We casually drop into conversation that we are going to Mass,or that we took our another grandson to Mass.We avoid telling him what he should or should not do.Initially I asked him and his partner if they had thought about baptism.I got such negative responses (which I won’t repeat)…that was three years ago.Since then my son has softened his attitude a little and talks more warmly not so angrily about catholic church matters.
My advice is to take things softly softly and gradually with much prayer and example from you of love and consistency and dropping the odd casual positive remark about the catholic church…very casual initially! Your son’s heart will soften.God will hear our prayers and help our children and grandchildren return to His church,in His time.I like you was very worried and have to accept there is nothing I can actually do other than trust in God to guide me my children and grandchildren to Him.
God bless you

Memorare (Prayer to Our Lady)
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen
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Thank you for you prayers and (name removed by moderator)ut. I will keep what you said in mind. Part of what I see as a problem is that he 2000 miles from us. He has no Catholic influence. He doesn’t talked much to us on the phone. Communication is very limited. My husband talked to him and bless his heart he was excellent. He tends to put foot in mouth but The Holy Spirit was with him and I was very proud of what he had to say. He hopes in time that he will come back. The problem is he has lesbian friends and he feels the Church is unfair not to let them get married. He does not see that there is any sin in their relationship. He espouses the homosexual viewpoint. Thanks again for the (name removed by moderator)ut and especially the prayers.
 
Dear adrift, I’m not very good on advice; I’m much better with prayer. This is a very potent prayer for “conversions”:

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!
 
I’m so sorry for your pain. Remembering you, your son, his wife and their baby in my daily prayers. God bless :console:
 
Bless your heart Adrift.
It is so difficult for us parents when our adult children behave in such worrying ways.
I shall keep you all in my prayers.
God bless

Memorare (Prayer to Our Lady)
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen
 
Lord,
Please protect this mother, her son and grandchild. Please send healing within this family and conversion of heart so that he may return to you through the church.
 
O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!

O Blood and Water, which gushed forth from the Heart of Jesus as a fount of Mercy for us, I trust in You!
 
Memorare (Prayer to Our Lady)
Remember, O most gracious Virgin Mary, that never was it known that anyone who fled to your protection, implored your help, or sought your intercession, was left unaided.
Inspired by this confidence, I fly unto you, O Virgin of virgins, my Mother. To you do I come, before you I stand, sinful and sorrowful. O Mother of the Word Incarnate, despise not my petitions, but in your mercy, hear and answer me. Amen
 
Praying for you, your son and family to our heavenly Mother, a woman that has the greatest pull of all!!
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MEMORARE OF OUR LADY
Remember O Most Gracious Virgin Mary
That never was it known that anyone who fled to thy protection
Implored thy help, or sought thy intercession was left unaided
Inspired by this confidence, I fly to thee
O Virgin of Virgins, my mother
To thee do I come, before thee I stand sinful and sorrowful
O Mother of the Word Incarnate
Despise not my petitions
*But in thy mercy hear and answer me.
*
Amen.

Sub Tuum Praesidium
*We fly to thy patronage, O Holy Mother of God **
*Despise not our petitions in our necessities **
*But deliver us always from all dangers *
*O glorious and blessed Virgin. Amen *
 
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