My history teacher is a communist

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StudentMI said:
By the way, OP, 20 million Christians weren’t martyred. Stalin, for instance, killed at most 7 million people, far below Hitler or Mao. And the Gulags at their height held less than we Americans do in our prisons.
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My mistake. I seem to remember a much higher number and I wasn’t intentionally misrepresenting the facts.
 
gracepoole said:
You’re a minor. Your job is to be respectful, listen, read, and learn. When did these sorts of antics become acceptable?
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My post may have made the situation seem more disrespectful than it really was. Most, if not all of my teachers encourage debate in class when discussing controversial topics and while yesterday things got a bit heated it usually works out really well and everyone comes away with a fresh perspective on things, even if they don’t change their mind.

I don’t believe that I have to just unquestioningly accept everything an adult tells me just because they’re in a position of authority over me. Of course there is a certain level of respect required but I’m capable of using my brain, particularly when my teachers are pushing communism and anti-Christian rhetoric (this is not an isolated incident, I’ve had multiple teachers attack my Christian beliefs before and it wasn’t even related to our classwork.)
 
StudentMI said:
First it was a legitimate question. Second, not everyone recognizes ‘whataboutism’ as a fallacy.
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In fact you asked two questions and I don’t see their connection to the topic. Perhaps it’s a disconnect rather than a fallacy. What does the historical fact of book-banning have to do with the OP’s class on communism?
 
Lost_sheep2 said:
… she started arguing with me personally, knowing I’m a Christian, that Jesus was a communist…
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If the argument hadn’t been so polarized, you might have tried to understand her. When you read Acts of the Apostles, about how the first Christians gave all their property and shared everything in common, what economic system do you think of? Hey, maybe you can use that when you debate pro communism! Sneak a little Christian world view into the classroom.
 
Lost_sheep2 said:
My post may have made the situation seem more disrespectful than it really was. Most, if not all of my teachers encourage debate in class when discussing controversial topics and while yesterday things got a bit heated it usually works out really well and everyone comes away with a fresh perspective on things, even if they don’t change their mind
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:o that was nothing like my high-school experience. I mostly just took notes and slept lol. I honestly feel like a lot of debate would just slow a class down.
Good luck on your mock debate though.
 
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I just came out of the debate now and we had a lot of fun actually, my teacher was playing the Soviet anthem when the communist side spoke and the American national anthem for the capitalist side. I tried my best to argue for communism well and our side actually won lol.
 
Funvod said:
I honestly feel like a lot of debate would just slow a class down.
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It does, I don’t know where you went to school but the school system in Australia is a joke at the moment. International students who come to my school almost always have to go up a grade because we’re behind and except for English, most of my classes are deficient enough in material to have time for interesting discussions lol.
 
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Well done Comrade!
 
Lost_sheep2 said:
It does, I don’t know where you went to school but the school system in Australia is a joke at the moment.
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International student in South Korea.
It was very hard. I enjoyed my time there but I also hated it lol. Most people were studying until 10pm at the earliest.
Sorry your school is like that, hopefully things improve.
 
Ah that’s okay, it doesn’t really bother me that much but I do sometimes feel inadequate when I meet people from Asia or Europe who are three or four years younger than me and can do the same level of math that I’m at haha.
 
Most people just memorize that for the exams and then pretty much forget about it, at least in my school.
The Asian prodigy stereotype is true for most high-school students, but once exams are done nobody cares anymore, so don’t feel too bad lol.

At least that was the case for my friend group. Who knows, maybe some of my classmates do remember all that math. I sure don’t.
 
I suppose if our school system has a strength it is definitely that it has less of an emphasis on just memorising facts for exams and focuses more on making sure we absorb the information. Can’t say it always works for everyone but I’ve never had to do late-night cramming before a test or anything and I’ve never failed an exam so I guess it does its job.
 
That’s definitely a huge strength. South Korea schooling depends on class rank, so it’s very competitive. I liked school so I enjoyed studying, and found a friend group that enjoyed the same. But eventually I got sick of studying. Students easily spend 15 hours a day at school and then rush off to cram school on the weekends. I’d get home, collapse into bed at some ungodly hour and then wake up and do it again. I doubt I can remember any useful information that I studied even a year ago lol.

I learned a lot but I’m definitely glad that that stage of my life is done with.
Australia’s schooling may suck but I don’t think high schools should be super competitive, so at least it’s got that going for it. 👍
 
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Yeah it definitely makes life a lot less stressful. Most of my classmates that actually try and are planning on going to university usually spend around 2-4 hours a day studying or doing homework/assignments and nearly everyone that I know works a part-time job (some of the people who come from poor families work up to 20 hours a week, although that is definitely a lot). I do like that side of things and I can still have a life outside of school. The only problem is that by nature it means that academic standards are lower and Australian students almost always rank lower than students from most other countries. Just from personal anecdotes my math teacher is from India and she said that general year 12 maths here is equivalent to year 10 in India, similar story from the Russian teacher next door although the difference is even more pronounced apparently. I’ve heard exactly the same thing from every single international student I’ve ever met although there is some inherent selection bias as the kids who go overseas for school are more likely to be smarter than average.
 
Lost_sheep2 said:
as the kids who go overseas for school are more likely to be smarter than average
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Well there’s the ego boost I needed lol.
I wouldn’t be put off too much by it. As long as you’re able to live comfortably and happily I don’t see the need to be the smartest person in the room.
Something I wished certain schools would learn. >->
 
Alert your parents and other sympathetic adults in the community. She is hawking a dangerous ideology in place of actual education and ought to be fired.
 
I highly doubt the opinion of one teacher is going to kickstart the communist revolution.
 
The teacher I spoke of was good at his job. I’m sure he knew what we were up to, and played along. May have been a form of bonding on his part. This was a time when teachers were gods, and I can’t recall a single moment of classroom mayhem. The saying ‘children must be seen and not heard’ was pretty much it in the classrooms of those days, at least while ‘Sir’ was present!
 
My (now retired) history teacher had two bad things: he was socialist-communist… and he was extremely boring. Except for that, we appreciated each other, and he tried to make me interested in the subject. Whenever he saw me distracted he would say a random statement that could be true or false and ask right after that: “right, kikiki32?” If I managed to answer correctly, the class would go on. If I didn’t, I would get gently scolded by him. I see this as a sign of appreciation, since he just did that with me (and I wasn’t his only distracted pupil).

As for socialism… I never argued with him. I didn’t bother. I just got even more bored during his Marx eulogies, which were long and frequent…

Now, when we see each other from time to time, we have a coffee and he shows me pictures of his little grandsons. He’s a nice man.
 
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