My husband loves another woman and can't choose

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My husband loves another woman (co-worker) and says he can’t choose between us. This has been going on for months and I am emotionally drained. She would call almost daily and they would talk for an hour at a time and not just about work. They would spend til the wee hours of the morning after work talking.They no longer work together but he has no intention of not seeing/talking with her even though he knows it hurts me when he does. He is sharing intimate details of our lives with her and I know they talk about me. I told her she is not welcome to call here anymore and now she is emailing (5x today all with cryptic references about me and about their future together. And all signed I love you. What should I do? After 23 years of marriage I never thought Iwould be in this position. Please help.
 
I am so sorry that your husband is violating his vows and hurting you in this way. 😦 I don’t have advice, but will pray for you. :gopray2:
 
My husband loves another woman (co-worker) and says he can’t choose between us. This has been going on for months and I am emotionally drained. She would call almost daily and they would talk for an hour at a time and not just about work. They would spend til the wee hours of the morning after work talking.They no longer work together but he has no intention of not seeing/talking with her even though he knows it hurts me when he does. He is sharing intimate details of our lives with her and I know they talk about me. I told her she is not welcome to call here anymore and now she is emailing (5x today all with cryptic references about me and about their future together. And all signed I love you. What should I do? After 23 years of marriage I never thought Iwould be in this position. Please help.
On the spiritual side- pray for the guidance of the Holy Spirit. It helped me through a very dark time in my life.

On the practical side-
  • Find a quiet place and decide what you want. Create a plan that gives you the best chance of getting there. If you want to stay with your husband, if you are willing to forgive him for this if he’ll come to his senses and realizes he wants to be worthy of you, than continue to act like someone he would want to be with. No pettiness or vindictiveness.
  • Without knowing you and him, I really can’t give you much more advice than that.
  • Consider what will happen if he continues down this path, unfortunately that means legal stuff and we’re not supposed to advise you on that. You’d need to get advice from a lawyer in your area.
  • Finances. May be time to consider setting aside funds for you that he can’t access, or ensuring your savings and investment accounts require dual signature vice single.
  • Credit cards. How comfortable are you with having joint credit right now? May be time to have seperate accounts.
    *Kids and custody. Now’s the time to start planning your strategy for what will be best for them in the long term.
I will be praying for you and yours.
 
I’m not a canon lawyer, but it sounds like legitimate grounds for an annulment. I would arrange to meet with your local priest for advice on the matter.

If it were me, and my wife was e-mailing, talking, and walking with another man, I would separate from her immediately and speak with both my priest and my attorney. Just my two cents.

He’s already made his decision. It sounds to me like it may be well past the time to pack up and leave. If there are young children involved, that only complicates matters further. Regardless, I certainly wouldn’t put up with a significant other treating me this way - It’s emotional and mental abuse.
 
I’m not a canon lawyer, but it sounds like legitimate grounds for an annulment. I would arrange to meet with your local priest for advice on the matter.

If it were me, and my wife was e-mailing, talking, and walking with another man, I would separate from her immediately and speak with both my priest and my attorney. Just my two cents.

He’s already made his decision. It sounds to me like it may be well past the time to pack up and leave. If there are young children involved, that only complicates matters further. Regardless, I certainly wouldn’t put up with a significant other treating me this way - It’s emotional and mental abuse.
  1. **DO NOT LEAVE!!! **Talk with a lawyer before you do **anything. **In some states, leaving puts the leaver at a terrible disadvantage.
  2. Adultery is not a cause for annullment. Annullment applies only to issues *at the time of the wedding . *
 
who’s your daddy your right in a temporal sense but in a long term relationship it’s different. It is very likely he has had an affair and perhaps still in it. What to do at this time? Perhaps you need to continue telling him to knock it off and remind him of his marriage vows. I would also try to probe at what level of the affair he is in. Was this a casual thing? Is it a long term thing? Has he left or not left her? Ask him what he has been doing to stop it. Hopefully he will say he’s trying. If he is honest and made a mistake help him along to rid her and after all said and done find out why he did it. Talk about it openly and plainly. Is he tired of marriage. Is it because the other women was persistent? ask these question and see where he is in this and where he plans to be with you in marriage.
Hope this helps. Your in my prayers.
 
Praying to the Holy Spirit to give you guidance & direction in your time need.
 
I’m not a canon lawyer, but it sounds like legitimate grounds for an annulment. I would arrange to meet with your local priest for advice on the matter.

If it were me, and my wife was e-mailing, talking, and walking with another man, I would separate from her immediately and speak with both my priest and my attorney. Just my two cents.

He’s already made his decision. It sounds to me like it may be well past the time to pack up and leave. If there are young children involved, that only complicates matters further. Regardless, I certainly wouldn’t put up with a significant other treating me this way - It’s emotional and mental abuse.
Annulments deal with the marriage at the time of the sacrament, 23 years ago. This has been going on for a few months. What did you see anywhere in the OP that indicated an annulment?
 
After reading it over again I would cont. to tell him to knock if off. Unfortunately sometimes it is so personal that one doesn’t want to tell friends or even family. What does one do? Keep a straight head. don’t get emotional even though this is tough. Stand up for your rights as a wife and don’t waiver.
 
By saying he can’t choose, he did choose.
Yes.

The problem is that way back when he said his vows, he had already chose then, too. This is not like choosing between his first girlfriend and the second girlfriend. To choose the second in that case without breaking it off with the first is bad enough!

This time, the choice is not just between the first woman he fancied and the one he fancied later. This is a choice of someone above his wife. That makes it a choice between integrity and betrayal.

He’s not just thinking about choosing betrayal. He’s choosing it. The only question is whether or not he’ll wake up, repent, and amend before his choices cause irreparable harm where he had promised unwavering fidelity.
 
  1. **DO NOT LEAVE!!! **Talk with a lawyer before you do **anything. **In some states, leaving puts the leaver at a terrible disadvantage.
  2. Adultery is not a cause for annullment. Annullment applies only to issues *at the time of the wedding . *
It is unfortunately true that a man who will cheat on his wedding vows will cheat to serve himself during his divorce, too. That is true whether the marriage is valid or not. I would unfortunately second the advice to seek the advice of an attorney concerning how to be situated in case he files for divorce or if his treatment of the OP is so bad that she is finally compelled to divorce him. If the wife is not vulnerable to being wiped out financially, he may avoid doing anything rash. When we are not seeing clearly, greed can deter us from crimes that virtue would be powerless to turn us from, in that weak moment. (We have to hope this fellow will come to his senses some day, since some as bad as he have done it.)

Definitely seek pastoral counselling on how to approach this problem in terms of stopping this brazen affair (whether it is physical or emotional) and repairing the marriage. Do not try to go this alone, or only with help from amateurs on the internet. There is a real limit to how much help any of us can offer.
 
My husband loves another woman (co-worker) and says he can’t choose between us. This has been going on for months and I am emotionally drained. She would call almost daily and they would talk for an hour at a time and not just about work. They would spend til the wee hours of the morning after work talking.They no longer work together but he has no intention of not seeing/talking with her even though he knows it hurts me when he does. He is sharing intimate details of our lives with her and I know they talk about me. I told her she is not welcome to call here anymore and now she is emailing (5x today all with cryptic references about me and about their future together. And all signed I love you. What should I do? After 23 years of marriage I never thought Iwould be in this position. Please help.
I am so sorry for the pain you are enduring. It is a sad situation to find yourself in after devoting so much time to him.

I don’t understand why it is his choice. He made his choice- he chooses not to keep his vows. He chooses to flaunt his affair in front of you. He chooses to continue his relationship.

It is your choice at this point. Decide whether you can live in a marriage like this. The ball is in your court. But, know that he will not stop his affair as long as he has his lover pursuing him and his wife not demanding the respect due her.

If you give him an ultimatum, he may choose her. But can you live with yourself if you don’t demand that he respect his vows?

Before you do anything, get some professional advice. Please speak to your priest, a lawyer, and also to a counselor if possible.

My prayers are with you.

:console:
 
After reading it over again I would cont. to tell him to knock if off. Unfortunately sometimes it is so personal that one doesn’t want to tell friends or even family. What does one do? Keep a straight head. don’t get emotional even though this is tough. Stand up for your rights as a wife and don’t waiver.
You *absolutely *need to talk with at least a few other people about this, after God, of course. First: a good priest and a good lawyer (get recommendations, don’t pick someone iut of the phone book!!!). Then you need personal counsel. Tell at least your best friend if at all possible, or a sister–someone you feel very close to. A counselor might also be a very good idea.

What I am writing is simply suggestions, what I’d tell a friend in these circumstances, totally as a friend, because aside from being to you only a random stranger on the internet, I am not a professional anything.

Then you need a plan. First, as mentioned above, you need to decide what you want. Do you want to try to preserve your marriage? (Put a time limit on this, like 2 to 6 months.) Or maybe you don’t.

If you do, I would sweep any bitterness out of me and start really living my life *not *around my husband and his current craziness. I would fix up the house and fix up myself. Change my hair, change my clothes if only by wearing them with different accessories. Mix it up. Get involved in a couple of things outside the home: stuff you haven’t had time for. If your children are old enough to stay home on their own, join a women’s book club or something similar one evening a week. Basically ignore your husband, and see what he does.

If he doesn’t react in 2-4 weeks, start seeing the lawyer, etc., without telling your husband, and sort out precisely what will happen when the time is up.

If after the time you have decided on he is still involved with the woman, then explain to him that you can no longer live like this and he must go. Do whatever the lawyer tells you to do to effect this. You will have to be tough and not discuss it with your husband. Tell him he can discuss it with your lawyer but you are finished.

You will also have to consider how to tell your children, and how much to tell them, and a lot of other practicalities, which is why you need to discuss this with so many people: the priest, for spiritual support; the lawyer, so you don’t get taken to the cleaners; the friend for advice and support through this; and a counselor if needed.

If you just want him out right away, talk to your “team” and speed up the timeline, but get all your ducks in a row before you do anything.

There are lots of other alternatives. You can ask him to go to counseling with you (during which time you will continue to set everything up in case all he’s doing is stringing you along). You can decide you don’t want to break up the family and continue on the outside like a married couple and turn a blind eye to the affair. Etc.

But right now, he’s got the best of both worlds: he has his affair for fun and a wife taking care of him at home. Why should he choose? There seem to be no repercussions for not-choosing, no downside to letting things continue in this way.

Annie
 
This is very sad.

It’s definitely time to lawyer-up.
It needs to be done carefully, but it does not do the husband good to think that the wife he is betraying is going to give him a “bon voyage” to decide this matter in a self-centered way. If she enables his infidelity by tacitly permitting it, she may find she has permitted him to leave her as if it were a perfectly moral course of action that is just unfortunately difficult for her.
 
It needs to be done carefully, but it does not do the husband good to think that the wife he is betraying is going to give him a “bon voyage” to decide this matter in a self-centered way. If she enables his infidelity by tacitly permitting it, she may find she has permitted him to leave her as if it were a perfectly moral course of action that is just unfortunately difficult for her.
I’m not sure what you are saying. Are you suggesing that it’s wrong for the wife to protect herself against a divorce that seems likely based on her husbands behaviour? Noting references to “their future together”, she needs to be adequately prepared for that strong possibility.

Legal advice is needed at this point, regardless of decisions the OP might make about attempting to save the marriage. But yes, carefully. She should do this privately at first, and then allow the advice of her lawyers and priest to guide her further, noting that her lawyers will (presumably) be acting in her best interests based on the course of acting she chooses to follow - or if needed the course of action that is dictated to her by her husband.

Frankly, any husband who acts this way ought to expect a “bon voyage”, notwithstanding that it is virtuous (and arguably supererogatory) for any spouse in such a situation to attempt to save their marriage.
 
I’m not sure what you are saying. Are you suggesing that it’s wrong for the wife to protect herself against a divorce that seems likely based on her husbands behaviour? Noting references to “their future together”, she needs to be adequately prepared for that strong possibility.

Legal advice is needed at this point, regardless of decisions the OP might make about attempting to save the marriage. But yes, carefully. She should do this privately at first, and then allow the advice of her lawyers and priest to guide her further, noting that her lawyers will (presumably) be acting in her best interests based on the course of acting she chooses to follow - or if needed the course of action that is dictated to her by her husband.

Frankly, any husband who acts this way ought to expect a “bon voyage”, notwithstanding that it is virtuous (and arguably supererogatory) for any spouse in such a situation to attempt to save their marriage.
According to canon law, it is within the rights of a spouse who suffers from infidelity to refuse to continue the common conjugal life. I won’t go into that, because it is something for her pastor to explain to her, except to agree that yes, the Church allows a spouse who has been the victim of infidelity to “separate with the bond remaining,” even if the marriage is valid.

Having said that, the Church also says that it is laudable for the victim of infidelity to readmit the wayward spouse who repents to the common conjugal life. Besides, that is what the OP wants! She wants her husband to renounce this nonsense and come back! Wayward spouses have done that, particularly in cases where the infidelity isn’t habitual, and sometimes the marriages are so improved by the intense work of reconciliation and the heroic generosity of the wronged party that in some ways they are stronger than before.

To clarify: What I mean to say is that
a) she ought to accept that if he would cheat on her and talk about his “choice” as he has been, she needs to accept that he might leave her without notice and take as much of their common possessions and earning capacity with him as he can when he goes. It does happen, and getting a lawyer sooner rather than later will help her put measures in place that will prevent him from adding that insult to the present injury.
b) if she lawyers up, he may realize that it is going to cost him a lot of money to divorce her, that his sweet wife is not going to lay down and let him do awful things to her, and it might wake him up about the consequences of these “choices” he’s playing around with. I don’t think that getting an attorney is going to drive him into the other woman’s arms. I think doing nothing is more likely to let him dally in that woman’s arms and make him more likely to drift emotionally farther and farther until there is no going back.
 
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