My husband of 26 years left

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See a lawyer immediately. You must protect your financial interests, for your son’s sake, and your own. And stop keeping this a secret-especially to your pastor, and any family you have nearby. They will be able to see things better than you can now. And, if nothing else, stop telling your son not to tell your pastor. He needs spiritual guidance, being caught in the middle of this.

It would be wonderful for you to repair your marriage, but It doesn’t sound as if your husband will want this any time soon. You sound like you try not to put yourself first, which is usually a good thing. But not when the other person is so intent on tearing you down. Sorry for sounding so harsh, but you need to protect yourself from your husband’s manipulations and keep yourself and your son physically, emotionally, and spiritually healthy.
 
See a lawyer immediately. You must protect your financial interests, for your son’s sake, and your own. And stop keeping this a secret-especially to your pastor, and any family you have nearby. They will be able to see things better than you can now. And, if nothing else, stop telling your son not to tell your pastor. He needs spiritual guidance, being caught in the middle of this.

It would be wonderful for you to repair your marriage, but It doesn’t sound as if your husband will want this any time soon. You sound like you try not to put yourself first, which is usually a good thing. But not when the other person is so intent on tearing you down. Sorry for sounding so harsh, but you need to protect yourself from your husband’s manipulations and keep yourself and your son physically, emotionally, and spiritually healthy.
This is an excellent point, which I had not thought of previously.
He’s getting away with this because no one KNOWS!
Once in the open, a lot of people will ask the hard questions, and he can’t manipulate others.
Have you seen the movie WAR ROOM? The main “about to cheat character” was really upbraided by his best friend. He found it embarrassing, and I feel like it made him stop and think a bit more.
Not everyone is supportive of a cheater.
But they do pray for them.
 
So many wonderful words of wisdom. I can close my eyes and try to feel your prayers, thank you!! So much to think about. Especially about how to forgive without condoning and starting to tell people. Not sure what to tell my son except we are both aware not to say anything negative about the other. I can see things are still going strong with his new love so my hopes of ever repairing this are fading away to almost nothing. Yet when I just heard his voice picking my son up my heart naturally felt warm again for a moment. So heart breaking. I will look into the books today. Thank you all SO MUCH. This gives me strength I otherwise would not have. I did find a group therapy session I will be attending tonight and plan to call our Priest tomorrow.
 
See a lawyer immediately. You must protect your financial interests, for your son’s sake, and your own. And stop keeping this a secret-especially to your pastor, and any family you have nearby. They will be able to see things better than you can now. And, if nothing else, stop telling your son not to tell your pastor. He needs spiritual guidance, being caught in the middle of this.

It would be wonderful for you to repair your marriage, but It doesn’t sound as if your husband will want this any time soon. You sound like you try not to put yourself first, which is usually a good thing. But not when the other person is so intent on tearing you down. Sorry for sounding so harsh, but you need to protect yourself from your husband’s manipulations and keep yourself and your son physically, emotionally, and spiritually healthy.
It is not unknown for someone foolishly dallying with the prospect of divorce to hesitate when they realize it won’t be stealing candy from a baby. That period of hesitation in which the husband might realize the error of his current infatuation could save the marriage in the long run. So yes–going to a divorce attorney might be the thing that holds off divorce, rather than the thing that brings it on. Stranger things have happened.

As for the OP, prudent steps to protect herself financially and to protect her health are reasonable. After that, the work is to avoid a desire for vengeance, avoid bitterness, avoid a naive willingness to trust someone who has been quite willing to deceive, and get support to get through this. One thing that is certain: whatever the future brings is likely to be a huge emotional drain. Find trustworthy sources of support, including habits of prayer, discrete and supportive persons, and whatever else the pastor has to suggest.

Oh, and be wary of pleas for pity from anyone who has deceived you in the past. Mercy and pity are not the same things. Mercy forgives; pity excuses. Do not let someone run that bait-and-switch on you, looking for excuses where they ought to be looking for forgiveness, amendment of life, and accepting the work of reconciliation.
 
Its funny I just recommended this book to another poster. It is the one whose husband seems to be having an “emotional affair”. I think it would work for that other poster, as it worked for a friend of mine and I think it would work for many. However, I did not recommend it to this poster because I think she needs more help. Maybe the book, but I would not rely on that alone I think the OP needs sound counsel, and I know she can get that over the phone with Gregory Popcak’s Pastoral Solutions Institute. I think the first call is free, and its sliding scale, and they won’t waste her time or her money - unlike some counseling they won’t drag things out and just listen to her talk while the meter runs. Instead they can expertly get right to the heart of the matter and offer the sound advice she needs.
I agree 100%. The book alone is not enough for many people. And I can tell you from personal experience that your advice about Dr. Popcak is right on the mark. He helped me through very similar circumstances. I honestly do not think I could have done it without his help. Well worth ever cent I paid.
 
Haven’t been around for a while (the holidays kept me busy), but surprised that no one has jumped in to this topic yet to castigate the other posters here for “encouraging divorce”, bringing up stories of St. Rita and other saints who forgave philandering husbands, how God forgave the Israelites many times for their spiritual infidelity, etc.

Anyway, to the OP: I haven’t read Popcack but I do recommend Dobson’s “Love Must be Tough” book. Dobson is no fan of divorce but he also understands that is doing the wayward spouse no favors to simply go along with whatever they demand out of desperation.

One way to think about it is, if you keep giving your husband opportunities to sin against you, you are not helping him get to heaven. And also, unfortunately, in some cases cheating spouses will gaslight the betrayed spouse coldly and calculatedly, not planning on staying at all (I agree with the posters who state your husband likely never stopped the affair in the first place) but making sure to position themselves as best they can.

There certainly have been enough stories of both men and women on CAF who tried to forgive cheating spouses, bent over backward to reconcile, and ended up divorced anyway because in the end, the cheater chose the affair over the marriage. 😦

I do pray that the group therapy session and meeting with your priest will be helpful.
 
Haven’t been around for a while (the holidays kept me busy), but surprised that no one has jumped in to this topic yet to castigate the other posters here for “encouraging divorce”, bringing up stories of St. Rita and other saints who forgave philandering husbands, how God forgave the Israelites many times for their spiritual infidelity, etc.

Anyway, to the OP: I haven’t read Popcack but I do recommend Dobson’s “Love Must be Tough” book. Dobson is no fan of divorce but he also understands that is doing the wayward spouse no favors to simply go along with whatever they demand out of desperation.

One way to think about it is, if you keep giving your husband opportunities to sin against you, you are not helping him get to heaven. And also, unfortunately, in some cases cheating spouses will gaslight the betrayed spouse coldly and calculatedly, not planning on staying at all (I agree with the posters who state your husband likely never stopped the affair in the first place) but making sure to position themselves as best they can.

There certainly have been enough stories of both men and women on CAF who tried to forgive cheating spouses, bent over backward to reconcile, and ended up divorced anyway because in the end, the cheater chose the affair over the marriage. 😦

I do pray that the group therapy session and meeting with your priest will be helpful.
Who’s advocating divorce? :confused:
 
Who’s advocating divorce? :confused:
No one that I know of. But I’m sure you’ve seen similar CAF topics involving adulterous, or even frankly abusive, spouses, where posters were accused of advocating divorce.
 
Well, we clearly hope she can make it work with the hubs, but he has to want to come home.
I think he’s caught up in the excitement of an affair, and not thinking clearly.
Hopefully he will wake up soon. This isn’t good for anyone, and they have a child to think about.
 
Yet when I just heard his voice picking my son up my heart naturally felt warm again for a moment. So heart breaking.
Since your son is 12, perhaps have him meet up with his dad somewhere you don’t need to hear his voice. For example, perhaps your son could take a walk to the corner store and be picked up there. Show your husband if he is going to mistreat you, he can not be near you
 
Please know you are in my prayers.

I agree with talking with a priest or Catholic counselor/therapist about this. I also think you should start setting money aside - $20 here, $20 there in case you need it. Most importantly, please at your next doctor appointment, get yourself tested for STDs.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this.
 
Sorry if this post is TMI…
julia1234
Yes, Julia1234, your post was Too Much Information. Calumny, maybe. There’s a lot that you spilled that the Internet does not need to see. By doing that you may even have created another obstacle to the healing of your marriage.

To all the other commenters in this thread (and too many other threads in the Catholic Answers Forum that are similar), please keep in mind that you have only heard one side of this story. Try to keep from throwing stones.

From what you have revealed, Julia1234, I suppose you and your man had a long period of childlessness in your marriage. If so, this was heartbreaking for each of the two of you–a cross you both bore. Any marriage strains under such a burden. You also mention money problems, that too is another strain on a marriage and women are the ones most often tempted to disrespect their spouse when the marital household faces money problems.

I don’t know your man’s side of the story, but you say he spoke of your “sexual rejections over the years”. (I am disappointed that at least one other correspondent here blew that off.) All the women here, hear this: when you sexually reject your man with whom you are consecrated as one flesh, you have deeply wounded him and broken with him. It is a woman’s way of being unfaithful to her man. All of us must teach our daughters this as they grow into their womanhood and we prepare them for the glorious vocation of marriage. Whether your man takes it quietly and stoically or loudly rebels, know this: your unfaithful rejection wounds his heart and tears at your marriage bond. And your man is bewildered if you do not know this.

Regrettably, Julia1234, your story does not include either of you seeking marriage counseling when your husband felt repeated hurtful sexual rejections nor when the earlier affair you claim to have discovered came to light. Of course, the typical man is reluctant to go to a marriage counselor but don’t dismiss his reluctance as irrational or wrong. It’s not. Still, if either spouse feels the marriage is struggling and believes that marriage counseling could help then I recommend going–even if one spouse goes and the other does not. But be sure to verify that the counselor understands, fully understands, your Catholic view that marriage is indissoluble in this life and that you want to heal your marriage. Too many who put up Marriage Counselor on their shingle are ok with guiding clients into divorce–most of them, probably. So be careful. Ask your priest if he knows of a marriage counselor who helps Catholics heal their marriages, if he doesn’t know one personally he should be able to direct you to another priest who does. (A good priest will help anyone who asks for such help, even someone who is not Catholic.) Ask your Catholic relatives and friends. Call the diocesan office and ask there for a referral too.

You mentioned that drinking has been a problem in your marriage. Consider contacting AA or Al-Anon and asking if there is a mostly-Catholic group in your area. Then go to the one that is appropriate for your situation.

Oh, Julia1234, do not give up on your marriage. You are wedded to your man for as long as you both shall live, for better or worse. Now is a portion of that “worse”. I hear despair in your post, reach out for help to those around you. But do not let them poor-mouth your marriage–you require them to help strengthen you through this trial, not to tear you and your marriage down. Pray to God to give you, your man, your son, and all the guardian angels the graces to strengthen you all in this struggle. Pray to Mary and her most chaste spouse Joseph that they too will petition God with you as you pray for the healing of your marriage, your man, your boy, and yourself. Be sure to include in your prayer requests the grace to be receptive to your man and welcome him back home when he turns again to his one true wife with whom he is one flesh. Keep your home ready to receive him and let him know that even if you do not contact him every day, you are ready to welcome him back every day, that you have tied the proverbial yellow ribbon 'round your heart for him. From time to time, let him know without being prideful of what you are doing toward your goal of reuniting with him and healing your marriage–keeping up attendance at Sunday Mass, seeking/attending counseling and/or support group(s), fasting (don’t pick a grueling fast, see a priest for advice first!), financial planning, completing a novena of prayers, personal fitness, and such like.

In your post you acknowledge some of your own shortcomings in how you treated your man. Introspecting and admitting ones own wrongs is hard to do in such a crisis as you now face, Julia1234. It is humbling. I believe that by doing so you will be able to make a good confession of your own offenses, be more understanding of your man’s faults, and by doing so gain graces that will help you bear this cross and when you reconcile with your man.

Finally, remember that you are through your baptism an adopted daughter of God and a sister of Our Lord Jesus. You know what to do to be made clean and walk in grace with Jesus and His human family again. I pray for you, your man, and the son of your marriage.
 
I believe your comment about “blew it off” was aimed at me.

So It sounds like you saying that it is the OP’s fault because she did not fulfill her husband’s desires. How charitable of you to place all of the blame on her for that and other things you mention and stones that you yourself have thrown.

And you also make a lot of presumptions about their relationship even though you too, only have one side of the story. And that is where you continue to blame the wife and admonish all women here to listen to you. Obviously you think that your opinion is somehow more valuable than anyone else’s.

Ironically, after your finger pointing was complete, you actually gave some good advice. It is unfortunate that you had to play the blame game before you did so.
 
Since your son is 12, perhaps have him meet up with his dad somewhere you don’t need to hear his voice. For example, perhaps your son could take a walk to the corner store and be picked up there. Show your husband if he is going to mistreat you, he can not be near you
Whether they reconcile or split, there are going to be years and years of dealing with one another. They both need to learn to deal with it. Avoiding is only going to make that child’s life about choosing one or the other. It’s not the kid’s fault, and cannot be put in the middle. They have to deal with it.
 
Show your husband if he is going to mistreat you, he can not be near you
I don’t think her husband cares whether he is near her at this point or he wouldn’t be cheating on her. So, it isn’t as if she has any say in whether he sees her or not at this point.
 
To the OP:

I was there once too standing in those same shoes after 15 yrs of marriage. There is nothing that says he must support you so move on from that thought.

It may take awhile but you and your son will be happy again even if that means without your husband. I know right now it is hard for you to believe that you will be happy without him but you will.

You Will and Can support yourself and your son. I took computer courses to bring me up to speed with the rest of the world and earned enough money that his 6 figure salary was never needed. You can do this if he decides he doesn’t want to come home. You and your son will be just fine.

Stay close to Christ, speak to him often and always ask him for his assistance in showing you the way and to give you and your son the strength for the adventure ahead.
 
So It sounds like you saying that…
I don’t know what anything “sounds like” to you. Just try to read whatever someone writes for what it is. Avoid speculative leaps to conclusions, especially uncharitable ones. The Irish can’t read minds and we shouldn’t try.
 
I don’t think her husband cares whether he is near her at this point or he wouldn’t be cheating on her. So, it isn’t as if she has any say in whether he sees her or not at this point.
I agree with IrishMom2. Wholeheartedly.

I absolutely think she should see a lawyer, that is sound advice.

I’m not advocating divorce. But Julia1234 is in a helpless position of hurt and suffering while her husband is being selfish and hurting his family. Julia1234’s husband is already gaslighting her as he is sinning and putting her in a position of harm. She needs to at least protect herself. I would recommend filing for Legal Separation. That way the marriage is not over per se, and I’m no lawyer, but I think it will allow for some protection. Talk to a lawyer. Please.

And Julia? I’ve walked a similar path of heartache and dealt with the harsher side of love and betrayal. Put it in God’s hands. See a lawyer, file for Legal Separation for your own protection, and in the meanwhile make Jesus the man in your life as you and your son bond during this time of hurt. Reach out to loved ones and your friends for support. Get out and do things that will bring YOU joy.

I will say prayers from my heart for you, Dear Julia1234. Ask for the intercession of St. Jude to help you during this time. Feel free to PM me anytime.

With Prayer, your friend,
GW
IThe Irish can’t read minds and we shouldn’t try.
We are a magical, magical people, my friend. 😉
 
About finances, I believe it’s the law, in most states, for each of you to get half the marital assets (the combination of what each of you earned during the marriage). That is in the case of divorce, I don’t know about legal separation. So, it’s important for you to see a lawyer NOW. I’m not saying there has to be a divorce, but in cases like yours, you should hope and pray for the best, but prepare for the worst. And as your son is living with you, he will be required to pay child support.
Praying for you.
 
A man who makes you cry is not worth your tears and
A man worth your tears won’t make you cry !!!

Please let go of this and take a break. Love yourself and let go of him. Seek spiritual guidance from a priest, go dancing, be with family, work, volunteer or go back to school, color your hair, nails, change your wardrobe…just be busy and love yourself…

You are a child of God and you are worth so much more !!!
 
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