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it was for his grandson!people are free to graciously decline your invitation for any reason, and not wanting to cause problems at home seems like a natural reason not to go.
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it was for his grandson!people are free to graciously decline your invitation for any reason, and not wanting to cause problems at home seems like a natural reason not to go.
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I agree with the statement about the marriage. I agree somewhat with your statement about the victim being my father in law but you are wrong about my son. My son IS a victim as well. He’s an innocent little 3 month old boy. He doesn’t get to see his grandfather all because his wife is an unbalanced controlling witch just like you said.. The only victim in this situation is your FIL. Not you, not your husband, and not your infant. Your FIL is in a marriage with what seems to be an unbalanced, controlling, witch.
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It doesn’t matter who it is for. No one is obligated to attend an event. I understand that you’re a new mom and you are very excited to have the family gather around for special events and milestones. But other people are not obligated to cause problems in their own lives to do so.it was for his grandson!
I think if you step back and read some of this you can see that you are acting emotionally which can be adding to the problem and since you cannot control for husband’s stepmother you can control yourself and your actions.I agree with the statement about the marriage. I agree somewhat with your statement about the victim being my father in law but you are wrong about my son. My son IS a victim as well. He’s an innocent little 3 month old boy. He doesn’t get to see his grandfather all because his wife is an unbalanced controlling witch just like you said.
I think if you step back and read some of this you can see that you are acting emotionally which can be adding to the problem and since you cannot control for husband’s stepmother you can control yourself and your actions.
Honestly there need not be so much drama. And a 3 month old is not a victim yet. But he will be if he sees his mom acting upset and retaliatory in a drama filled family.
From my personal experience, I would not get all mama bear and make your son out to be the victim of your FIL’s lack of courage, here. Why do I say that? We had some invitees boycott our sons’ First Holy Communion over some tiff, I held a grudge about it for months, they held a grudge about it for even longer, and then it turns out that our sons did not even remember that anyone was missing at the party. They were eight years old and they tend to have excellent memories! I dropped the charitable ball, and how I would love to have that one to do over. I tell you about this in way of reparation. Don’t do what I did.I agree with the statement about the marriage. I agree somewhat with your statement about the victim being my father in law but you are wrong about my son. My son IS a victim as well. He’s an innocent little 3 month old boy. He doesn’t get to see his grandfather all because his wife is an unbalanced controlling witch just like you said.
he has been told that he is more than welcome here anytime he wants to come by! He claims that he cannot. I have never ever nor will i ever keep my son from his grandfather! He knows where we live. He knows our phone number. Don’t you dare point your finger at me., but she is not keeping your son from having a relationship with his grandfather. You are the one doing that.
You need to really take to heart what Hoosier Daddy said. You can only control for your actions.For a few reasons. First of all this relationship he jumped right into. Then he lied to my sister in law about getting married. Said he wasn’t going to and then when he came back from Las Vegas they were.My sister in law knew it was going to happen eventually but felt hurt that she was lied to. She then demanded to my sister in law that she either expect it or else.
Before my FIL’s new wife came along he had been divorced for roughly 6 years. During his second marriage he was married to a woman who was similar to this current one, but not as bad. The second wife had 2 sons from her previous marriage. Just like this current one, during the 2nd marriage he did everything for this woman so that she was happy. He even neglected his own 2 children to make her 2 little brats happy. The result? Her eldest son beat up my sister in law on a regular basis. Would shove her, throw stuff at her, and even slammed her head into a wall at one point. Her youngest son? Well he sexually abused her. Why did she never say anything about it? Well she was afraid of telling my husband for fear of what he might to do him. She was afraid to tell his mother for fear that she wouldn’t believe her and that she would hit her. She didn’t tell my FIL because she feared that he wouldn’t believe her or that he would but then quickly change his mind once his wife would convince him that he wouldn’t do something like that.
As for my husband he became very depressed. He dropped out of high school and began drinking and doing drugs. He would be on the streets at all hours.His Father didn’t even notice. He hated being in that house especially since everytime he ate he would have to sneak it and eat it fast before that woman caught him because any time that she did she would scream at him and say that whatever he had was for HER boys.
My FIL, husband, and SIL all suffered but my SIL did the most. Then this 3rd woman comes along. Just like my Husband, my SIL was also made to feel bad about eating. Each time she’d make a sandwich this woman would scream at her that it was the last of the meat, etc. Then finally one day my SIL stood up to her telling her “I may not be working as I am disabled and can barely walk however at least I have income coming in and help my Dad in any way I can financially. What do you do besides laying in bed 24/7 and playing on facebook and whinning that you can’t do anything because your shoulder hurts?”
Atcually the wife IS the one with the control issues. The poor man isn’t even allowed to go visit his Mother in the nursing home because she doesn’t like his wife and the only reason she doesn’t like her is because of how she controls him.
Is this how I would treat an abused woman? Well let’s see.
I have an aunt who is 59 years old. She is with a man who is 44 years old. She has been with him for 12 years. He is an alcoholic. Everyone in my family knew this but decided to try him out and give him a chance. When I was 16, he tried to lick my neck and grab my breasts. I punched him in the face. He then yelled at me and made very discusting comments about my other body parts. My Aunt stayed with him. He apologized to me, I forgave him but only for the sake of my aunt. I was trying to make life easier for her. He has smacked her around, pulled her hair and has spit in her face. He has also blocked the door and prevented her from coming to visit any of the family.
His mother is an alcoholic too. The both of them have gotten on the telephone at 7 am and have called my 85 year old grandmother telling her nasty things about my aunt and have had my poor grandmother balling her eyes out. My aunt stayed with him. Some of us have managed to get her away from him a few times. We have tried to help her get her life straightened out and to get off of welfare, and to get an apartment, and to get a job. She always goes back. Very recently she was living with my parents for 8 months after he kicked her out an Xmas Eve. My Mom and I went through a lot trying to get her out of there and her stuff out of there. She ended up going back to him. We’ve done what we could and we’ve cut her off.
We’ve tried to support my FIL. We’ve offered him money, counselling, pretty much anything he wanted. He declined everything and always has an excuse.
So to answer your question, yes if I had to depending on the circumstances.
We would very much like to have a relationship with my husband’s father as well as for him to have one with his grandson. However, that has proven to be difficult because of this woman. My poor FIL doesn’t have much of a social life. This woman has an issue with being alone. If she doesn’t feel like going out, he’s not allowed. There have also been times where he has had to use up his sick leave to stay home with her because she didn’t want to be alone. That is NOT fair. She’s not working so one of them has to.
Yes it bothers my husband and I that he takes so much abuse from this woman about everything. However my husband and I DO NOT need to take any abuse from her.
There is only so much you can do when someone else is enslaved to an evil and ruins their relationship with you as a result. Of course you try to encourage them to get out, but you do not stay in the same building that is crashing down in flames around them. If you get onto high ground, at least there might be a haven for them when they finally escape.. … Before my FIL’s new wife came along he had been divorced for roughly 6 years. During his second marriage he was married to a woman who was similar to this current one, but not as bad. The second wife had 2 sons from her previous marriage. Just like this current one, during the 2nd marriage he did everything for this woman so that she was happy. He even neglected his own 2 children to make her 2 little brats happy. The result? Her eldest son beat up my sister in law on a regular basis. Would shove her, throw stuff at her, and even slammed her head into a wall at one point. Her youngest son? Well he sexually abused her. Why did she never say anything about it? Well she was afraid of telling my husband for fear of what he might to do him. She was afraid to tell his mother for fear that she wouldn’t believe her and that she would hit her. She didn’t tell my FIL because she feared that he wouldn’t believe her or that he would but then quickly change his mind once his wife would convince him that he wouldn’t do something like that.
As for my husband he became very depressed. He dropped out of high school and began drinking and doing drugs. He would be on the streets at all hours.His Father didn’t even notice. He hated being in that house especially since everytime he ate he would have to sneak it and eat it fast before that woman caught him because any time that she did she would scream at him and say that whatever he had was for HER boys.
My FIL, husband, and SIL all suffered but my SIL did the most. Then this 3rd woman comes along. …the wife IS the one with the control issues. The poor man isn’t even allowed to go visit his Mother in the nursing home because she doesn’t like his wife and the only reason she doesn’t like her is because of how she controls him.
Is this how I would treat an abused woman? Well let’s see.
I have an aunt who is 59 years old. She is with a man who is 44 years old. She has been with him for 12 years. He is an alcoholic. Everyone in my family knew this but decided to try him out and give him a chance. When I was 16, he tried to lick my neck and grab my breasts. I punched him in the face. He then yelled at me and made very discusting comments about my other body parts. My Aunt stayed with him. He apologized to me, I forgave him but only for the sake of my aunt. I was trying to make life easier for her. He has smacked her around, pulled her hair and has spit in her face. He has also blocked the door and prevented her from coming to visit any of the family.
His mother is an alcoholic too. The both of them have gotten on the telephone at 7 am and have called my 85 year old grandmother telling her nasty things about my aunt and have had my poor grandmother balling her eyes out. My aunt stayed with him. Some of us have managed to get her away from him a few times. We have tried to help her get her life straightened out and to get off of welfare, and to get an apartment, and to get a job. She always goes back. Very recently she was living with my parents for 8 months after he kicked her out an Xmas Eve. My Mom and I went through a lot trying to get her out of there and her stuff out of there. She ended up going back to him. We’ve done what we could and we’ve cut her off.
We’ve tried to support my FIL. We’ve offered him money, counselling, pretty much anything he wanted. He declined everything and always has an excuse…
We would very much like to have a relationship with my husband’s father as well as for him to have one with his grandson. However, that has proven to be difficult because of this woman. My poor FIL doesn’t have much of a social life. This woman has an issue with being alone. If she doesn’t feel like going out, he’s not allowed. There have also been times where he has had to use up his sick leave to stay home with her because she didn’t want to be alone. That is NOT fair. She’s not working so one of them has to.
Yes it bothers my husband and I that he takes so much abuse from this woman about everything. However my husband and I DO NOT need to take any abuse from her.
What do you mean by XYZ time?You need to really take to heart what Hoosier Daddy said. You can only control for your actions.
You have no control over your FIL, his wife, your SIL, or your FIL’s previous wives or their “brats”. Reacting with this kind of hysteria will only be bad for you, your husband, and your son. I know that when someone makes a mistake it’s tempting to think of every negative or painful thing that they’ve ever done and react with decades worth of anger. But that’s really counterproductive and it sets a bad example for your own son.
All you can do is understand that your FIL is in an awful situation and graciously accept his attempts at maintaining a relationship. Telling him that no, you will not be going hunting with him because he won’t give you XYZ time will pretty much ensure that he will never give you XYZ time.
Let’s clarify, too: What she is feeling is not out of place and what she wants to do is largely praiseworthy. She wants to enforce justice, justice is a good thing, and she is right: this situation is not fair. The problem is that experience says that there are ways to try to enforce justice that do not work. It is like a firefighter rushing into a collapsing building. At some point, his captain will stop him, saying, “Don’t try to be a hero, because you are not going to save anyone by running in there. You won’t save anyone, and I don’t need one more victim. I need you in one piece, out here, doing what we can do out here.”You need to really take to heart what Hoosier Daddy said. You can only control for your actions.
You have no control over your FIL, his wife, your SIL, or your FIL’s previous wives or their “brats”. Reacting with this kind of hysteria will only be bad for you, your husband, and your son. I know that when someone makes a mistake it’s tempting to think of every negative or painful thing that they’ve ever done and react with decades worth of anger. But that’s really counterproductive and it sets a bad example for your own son.
All you can do is understand that your FIL is in an awful situation and graciously accept his attempts at maintaining a relationship. Telling him that no, you will not be going hunting with him because he won’t give you XYZ time will pretty much ensure that he will never give you XYZ time.
Sometimes, you have to laugh or else you’d just have to cry. Hang in there, and keep those feet on solid ground.Sometimes we both feel like slamming our heads against the wall LOL!
I can certainly see the predicament you were in, as I was in a similar one. Sadly, this poor woman reminds me of a very close relative. This is only my thought. Before sending out the invites, already have a heart-to-heart with your FIL to see if he felt he could steer her away from outbursts. If he felt he could not or needed to keep peace, then it is HIS loss.I agree with the statement about the marriage. I agree somewhat with your statement about the victim being my father in law but you are wrong about my son. My son IS a victim as well. He’s an innocent little 3 month old boy. He doesn’t get to see his grandfather all because his wife is an unbalanced controlling witch just like you said.
I’m reading all of your posts (and have read the threads in the past about this issue), and the above sentences really struck me. What kind of a pathetic excuse of a father is this man?.
He even neglected his own 2 children to make her 2 little brats happy. (…) She didn’t tell my FIL because she feared that he wouldn’t believe her or that he would but then quickly change his mind once his wife would convince him that he wouldn’t do something like that.
As for my husband he became very depressed. He dropped out of high school and began drinking and doing drugs. He would be on the streets at all hours.His Father didn’t even notice.
Thanks very much for your feedback. I know you have replied to many of my other threads and I always look forward to hearing from youI’m reading all of your posts (and have read the threads in the past about this issue), and the above sentences really struck me. What kind of a pathetic excuse of a father is this man?People here have been very sympathetic about him being abused by the wife, but he obviously has a history of marrying nutters, and his kids always seem to pay for it. He makes excuses and always chooses the wife’s side, for his own peace. People seem to be quite understanding about this too.
But I wonder if you want this kind of a person to be around at all. He doesn’t seem to have much of a spine, and I doubt he would be a good example for the children. I wonder if what has happened has been a wonderful gift for you and your husband, so you can live in peace and not have to deal with so much poison.
This man lives daily with a woman you describe us unstable and with whom you have cut off all contact. The posts are one large complaint or case against her. This man lives with her and he obviously knows what is going to set her off–heck you know this will set her off and make his life even more difficult than it already is–do you not think your cutting her off–made his life more difficult? It seems unreasonable, to me, that you should be this upset he missed the baptism. Disappointed yes but I would think, that knowing this woman–your family would understand. Lets not forget you cut off contact because you didn’t like getting yelled at, texted, called, facebooked, etc. If you won’t take it why do you expect him to come --alone (because you won’t deal with this woman)–and then go back home and take whatever unstable rantings she dishes out–when you won’t?CONTINUATION OF FIRST POST:
My husband is now starting to question a lot of things. Including his adoption. My husband wonders if this man truly wanted to adopt him or did he just feel sorry for him and his Mother.
Right now my husband is ashamed of this man.He doesn’t want to talk to him see him or hear from him. He’s absolutely devastated that the man he once looked up to and wanted to be like missed his son’s first big milestone, all because he was afraid of getting yelled at. He also feels that because his father didn’t come to something that was important to him why should he go to something that’s important to him?
Prayers are much welcome as is feedback. What do you all think of this? Are we doing the right thing? Please keep in mind that this has really taken a toll on both of our health over the last 3 years trying to keep peace with this woman.
Thanks very much for your feedback and willingness to pray. I greatly apprechiate it.This man lives daily with a woman you describe us unstable and with whom you have cut off all contact. The posts are one large complaint or case against her. This man lives with her and he obviously knows what is going to set her off–heck you know this will set her off and make his life even more difficult than it already is–do you not think your cutting her off–made his life more difficult? It seems unreasonable, to me, that you should be this upset he missed the baptism. Disappointed yes but I would think, that knowing this woman–your family would understand. Lets not forget you cut off contact because you didn’t like getting yelled at, texted, called, facebooked, etc. If you won’t take it why do you expect him to come --alone (because you won’t deal with this woman)–and then go back home and take whatever unstable rantings she dishes out–when you won’t?
That someone else doesn’t do something you think they should–doesn’t make it right for you to not do something you should. You do things for people out of love–out of a desire for what is best for them–not because they did something for you. You do and give without expecting something in return.
I’m sorry if the above sounds harsh–that is not the tone it is written with or which is intended. I just think you need to think about what it is like to live with someone with whom you won’t any longer have contact, and should consider how your cutting her off probably made this mans home life even tougher. Do you not think that all this has probably taken a toll on this mans health also? Do you not think that your decision has hurt him and added to his stress–even if he understands the necessity of the decision? Perhaps he wonders if the son whom he adopted and loved really loves him? It sounds to me as if he is trying to make the best of a bad situation. It sounds to me as if you want him to give (by coming to things alone and returning home to the rantings)–while you are no longer willing to give (by putting up with this woman). I mean it sounds like you did the right thing but I don’t think you fully appreciate the situation you put this man in–so I am not sure your family should be so upset and hurt by this mans actions. I mean it is humorous in a sad sort of way that when it comes to this man you minimize this womans behavior by saying “all because he was afraid of getting yelled at” while your family cut off contact with her for this behavior.
Your family will be in my prayers.
The peace of Christ,
Mark