My mind associates Protestantism as more 'joyous/free/happy/light'

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In the title. It feels like I’m called or something, even though it’s completely illogical. Help me get out of this mess. I’m doubting, but how do I associate the true Church with the spiritual joy I have when thinking about Protestantism?
 
In the title. It feels like I’m called or something, even though it’s completely illogical. Help me get out of this mess. I’m doubting, but how do I associate the true Church with the spiritual joy I have when thinking about Protestantism?
What SPECIFICALLY about “protestantism” gives you spiritual joy that Catholicism DOESN’T?
 
What SPECIFICALLY about “protestantism” gives you spiritual joy that Catholicism DOESN’T?
Pictures of little white churches in the country, trouble rejecting sola fide, trouble accepting saintly intercession.
 
Protestantism is certainly light as in its myriad movements one can find whatever you want to find. A faith founded on itself without a Shepherd is often found foundering in its own wake. If the Bible was a book of technical instructions like an Ikea manual, many would still fail to make the desired object, or find little bits left over. But it is not even that. It is a Book inspired by God to show us the history of Salvation and some slight insight into the life, death and Resurrection of our Saviour. Many are eager to interpret a book as the only message from God, often in their own likeness. However, Christ did not write a book. He set up a Church and inspired it with the Holy Spirit so that it would prevail for all time over Satan.
You don’t need to venerate or pray to the Saints to be saved. Christ did all the hard work for us. Pray directly to Him if you are put off by some of the Church traditions. However, you should study the reasons behind these traditions before you cast off centuries of pious wisdom.
As for little white churches…
 
Catholic Churches are not the most inviting in my experiences. I guess Protestant churches have more of a community feel. I think Catholicism focuses more on the suffering of Christ while Protestant churches are centered around the joy.
 
Catholic Churches are not the most inviting in my experiences. I guess Protestant churches have more of a community feel. I think Catholicism focuses more on the suffering of Christ while Protestant churches are centered around the joy.
I think it’s interesting that you say this. For me, the Protestant churches I attended in the past felt welcoming at first because everyone was interested in me, but once the interest wore off and someone “newer” came along, I felt sort of … disillusioned. It all felt rather superficial, shallow. At the Catholic Church I have now attended for years, friendships took longer to develop, but also tended to be deeper, closer, and longer in general. Part of that is my own character growth, but I think it’s also because I finally realized that emotion isn’t necessarily a good way to measure the value or depth of relationships, community, or love. Emotion changes like the wind, regardless of truth.

When I came to the Catholic Church, it was partly because I wanted to know Christ more deeply. I wanted to really love Him, not just be “in love” with the idea of Him. In my Protestant churches, they tended to “gloss over” the uncomfortable parts, ignore or minimize suffering and focused mostly on being happy… but I was looking to be truly joyful. Minimizing those struggles and sufferings meant I had a happy, but rather superficial relationship with God. I couldn’t really begin to know and love Christ as deeply as I want to, until I began to understand some of His suffering, and suffer with Him.

I’d rather know both the joys and sufferings of Christ, and I have that in the Catholic Church. I have found that it’s possible to have joy even through suffering or unhappiness. Spiritual joy is not about always being happy. That took me a while to learn.

I find that the Mass can certainly be less emotional than most of the Protestant services I attended in the past… but I also find Mass to be more real, more joyful, more relationship-oriented, and more Biblical than any Protestant service I’ve been to. I don’t always “feel” something when I step into a Catholic Church, but I know Christ is there in a special way. I’m not sure I can explain it any better than that.

I think it also helps to remember that Mass is not really considered the time and place for socializing in Catholic Churches (whereas in some Protestant churches, it’s highly encouraged–to the point that some have even feel a bit intrusive to me). But that doesn’t necessarily mean that Catholic Churches aren’t welcoming or inviting! When I’m more involved and get to know others in the parish, I find it’s easier to feel welcome and included. The more you reach out to help others, the more likely you are to feel a sense of community and connection with others.

But here’s the thing: the Church also requires me to take that first step and be responsible for my own journey, not to expect others to come lead me by the hand (nor drag me along when I’m reluctant). I am treated as an adult. I know where I need to go, what I need to do–but I have to be the one to do it. There are guidelines and answers to questions and prayers and spiritual advice when I seek those things out, but no one’s going to “sell” it to me or check to make sure I do my homework. It’s up to me, because ultimately, I must be the one to choose to follow Him or not.

I love that about Mother Church. :heaven:
 
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This post says it all really.

Protestants do often have more joy but it comes at the cost of depth. Catholicism asks more of us and of our souls. There is more to be had in Catholicism-- even ultimately more joy but there needs to be more death of self also in order to find it. Joy can cover up things that need to be brought to God and healed, joy can be self created and idolatrous.
 
The issue is not joy but truth.

The church is not a destination, ultimately, but a path. And a path that “feels better” to be on is beside the point if it doesn’t lead where you want to be.

(P.S. I do **not ** mean salvation per se, but the fullness of holiness, for which the sacraments, and greater soul-searching, are required.)

ICXC NIKA
 
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This post says it all really.

Protestants do often have more joy but it comes at the cost of depth. Catholicism asks more of us and of our souls. There is more to be had in Catholicism-- even ultimately more joy but there needs to be more death of self also in order to find it. Joy can cover up things that need to be brought to God and healed, joy can be self created and idolatrous.
Though this description paints with a broad brush, in my experience, there is truth in it.

I converted in high school after feeling drawn to the Catholic church for many years. Very soon thereafter, I started going to “non-denominational” evangelical churches. Why? For two main reasons, well, maybe three. One was that most of my friends were evangelical Protestants; my best friend was a cradle Catholic, but he was going through a trial of his faith that lasted for several years, and, praise God, ended up with him coming home to the Church, where he remains and it has been a great blessing to him.
Reason number two is contained in the title of your post. I saw more exuberance in the evangelical churches I attended, and also received the (as it turned out, largely mistaken) impression that there was more of a spirit of evangelization and a sense of immediacy and urgency about the Gospel message. I got involved with a megachurch, which was a very exciting experience at first, but ultimately was not at all fulfilling and, if anything, was disillusioning. The upshot was that I got so frustrated that my initial impressions were not born out that I gave up practicing any Christian faith for 20+ years. When I took it up again ten years ago, I came home to the Catholic church.
I met many good, Christian people in my evangelical years, and heard no shortage of good preaching. Evangelical pastors are not afraid to call a duck a duck and to speak clearly about what sin is and about rejecting it, i.e. in general, they seem less timid about possibly offending people by speaking plainly about sin. The pastor at the Southern Baptist church I attended my first couple of years of college stands out in my memory. I’m not saying there weren’t good devoted Christians, but rather that the fervor didn’t seem to extend as broadly as I had hoped.
For what it’s worth, I can see now that the church where I was received into the Catholic faith was caught up in the spirit of the '70s (felt banners, etc.). It may have been a fine church, I really don’t remember, but I do feel like I’ve learned so much more about the faith this time around, and have also come to the conclusion that there is a depth to the Catholic faith (if you take time to learn it, really learn it, and prayerfully put it into practice) that may be hard to find in evangelical Christianity. Yes, you may find a rush of excitement and a glow about evangelical Protestant worship services, but I fear that in the end you may find it shallow and the experience will leave a bad taste for organized Christianity in general.
Am I correct that you are in your teens? I was when I was caught up in evangelical Protestantism; I think there’s something about that age that also makes it appealing. How I wish I would have had the company of more Catholics who were deep in the faith and on fire for it. Perhaps I did and just didn’t care to notice it.
That’s my experience, anyway.
 
In the title. It feels like I’m called or something, even though it’s completely illogical. Help me get out of this mess. I’m doubting, but how do I associate the true Church with the spiritual joy I have when thinking about Protestantism?
Some one once said that they had made the altar call and had accepted Jesus as their Lord and Saviour. Then they asked what else is there? And they were told to go out and bring others in. They said that was unsatisfying since they wished to deepen their relationship to Jesus. So they became Catholic.

Then too, it’s a lot easier to practise religion when a lot of what the faith says is ignored.
Wouldn’t it be nice if OSAS really worked?
 
Define “faith”.
I ask because “faith” has some different definitions - as Jimmy Akin goes into here: ewtn.com/library/ANSWERS/SOLAFIDE.htm

It can actually be said that, if we understand faith as, not merely intellectual assent, but also obedience that is the fruit of that - that Catholics do actually believe in sola fide.

Sola fide cannot mean “only by intellectual assent”. “You believe there is one God; you do well. Even the demons believe that.” So said St. James. And Christ asks His Apostles and disciples to obey him, in various places. Faith must be active - it must “work in love”, as St. Paul said.
 
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It feels like I'm called or something, even though it's completely illogical.
God calls all of us.
Help me get out of this mess. I’m doubting, but how do I associate the true Church with the spiritual joy I have when thinking about Protestantism?
Why is this necessary?

Do you imagine somehow that the emotional state of joyous/free/happy is some kind of litmus test of Truth?

Do you think Jesus felt this way when He was hanging on the cross?
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Pictures of little white churches in the country,
I love these too. I like to look at pictures and visit them in person. How does this create a mess of any kind?
trouble rejecting sola fide, trouble accepting saintly intercession.
These things make you feel more joyous/free/happy?

How does having trouble accepting things or having doubts create a problem? Perhaps you have difficulty tolerating ambiguity.
 
Pictures of little white churches in the country…
Not to overstate it, but it’s easy to grab on to mental images and build a little world around them only to find out that you were building on sand. It’s dangerously easy, at least for me, to make little idols out of ideas, people (saints and sinners alike), really out of wishful thinking. Have you ever had a crush on someone, then gotten to know them and find out they weren’t at all the person you had concocted in your head?
For that matter, there are beautiful Catholic churches in the country, even here in the USA. My family and I visited the shrine in Starkenburg, MO, pretty much in the middle of nowhere, a couple of years back and it’s one of my happiest memories.
You may see less happy-clappy in the Catholic faith, but, if you look for it and persist, you’ll find abundant joy in the Catholic faith. It’s a pearl of great price.
 
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