My mom won't enforce modesty--what to do?

[kozlosap]

Dear Baelor,

Sorry, my dear friend, but your line of reasoning is simply illogical, for the whole point is that a God-fearing and respectable Catholic woman would not don a bikini or mini-skirt because this sort of vesture is unbecoming a women who professes godliness. There is no circular reasoning because these garments are, by Catholic standards, unseemly and seductive and only someone desperate to uphold a liberal worldly viewpoint would ever argue to the contrary. Let us hear what our Catechism says:

"Modesty protects the intimate centre of the person. * It means refusing to unveil what should *remain hidden" (para. 2521, emphasis mine)

“Modesty is decency. It inspires ones choice of clothing” (para. 2522, emphasis mine)

“Modesty inspires a way of life that makes it possible to resist the allurements of fashion and the pressures of prevailing idealogies” (para. 2523).

God bless and goodbye for now, my dear friend, have a jolly splendid weekend.

Warmest good wishes,

Portrait

Pax/QUOTE

Good Afternoon from rainy Northern California! It seems to me that the OP has decided that the best course for her to take is to allow her awesome Mother to mother her sister and she will be a sister to her Sister. Advocating for the “fashion police” to decide on whom or whom not is a respectable and Godly woman based on the Fashion Police’s point of view is not exactly what is taught in the Gospels. As far as I’m concerned, the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the only one to know what is truly in each of our hearts, not other men and women who judge on the basis of outward appearances.

It must be very tiring to live day to day life looking at all the “ungodly” women that you encounter. I pray that you really don’t judge individuals without first getting to know them personally. I’ve read many of your posts, and it’s obvious that you are very strictly conservative, but also a man who wants to help fellow people find their way in everyday struggles. Quoting from the CCC is all good and fine, but your interpretation of a rule, and my interpretation of that same rule could be quite different. When dealing with teenagers especially, quoting rules of conduct and expectations is normally not the best way to teach. As others have written on this thread, being an example is a far better way to teach about modesty.

 

[fix]

Stick to what I say, please, and do not attempt to erect straw men. It simply will not work.

It is not a straw man. The poster’s position is that bikinis are immodest, period. Is that position not allowed? Is it wrong? If so why? He already makes it clear they are too revealing.

1. “Self-evidence” is a cop-out in almost every case I have seen.

1. If one should argue that it is not self-evident, the poster already relegates that person to the class of people trying to uphold the liberal worldview or whatnot, hardly a productive way of reaching any sort of increased understanding of morality.

1. And what, pray, does the poster believe should not be revealed? I see nothing concrete, nothing specific. And jeans reveal no skin whatsoever. Is the shape of the legs something to be concealed? The poster does not say. How can anyone work with nothing?

Let us stick with just the bikini example for now. What should not be revealed? Apparently all that is revealed by wearing a bikini. Again self evident. Do we need an anatomy lesson?
As I said you would have better luck by choosing some other example.

I have no position at this point.

ok

 

[fix]

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“Desensitization” – is not necessarily a bad thing. A culture where less clothes is the norm/acceptable – and boys grow up to see a woman in a bikini-- as just a woman wearing an acceptable form of swim attire-- there would be less incentive to view her as an object.

Just the opposite. Desensitization is being desensitized to what is good and virtuous, not to some physicalist view of moral life.

 

[Walking_Home]

Just the opposite. Desensitization is being desensitized to what is good and virtuous, not to some physicalist view of moral life.

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I disagree. Growing up – not viewing women as objects – because in that culture – the lack of clothes – does not tend to objectifying the person – is Not a bad thing.

 

[Baelor]

It is not a straw man. The poster’s position is that bikinis are immodest, period. Is that position not allowed? Is it wrong? If so why? He already makes it clear they are too revealing.

Fix, only respond if you can respond in a productive manner.

You said this:

Why not? Is any fashion acceptable simply because it exists?

I never even hinted at that, making the second question a straw man from which you are now trying to distance yourself.

Let us stick with just the bikini example for now. What should not be revealed? Apparently all that is revealed by wearing a bikini. Again self evident. Do we need an anatomy lesson?

Yes, yes we do. Otherwise I could say that about anything. Skirts reveal too much! Burkas reveal too much! Dresses reveal too much! It is self-evident – anything they reveal is too much. Self-evident.

That is not a line of reasoning, and it is as theologically unsound as it is intellectually sterile. Neither are traits that have permitted the Church to teach the truth in the past or now.

This is actually the line of reasoning presented by Portrait (and you, perhaps?). Forgive me if I am not convinced. There is no reason to pick any other example.

What specifically is too revealing about a bikini. The back? The neck? The breasts? The stomach? The legs? Why is a bikini not okay but a one-piece is? Why are dresses okay, given that they reveal ankles? All of these questions are emphatically not self-evident, because clearly this is disagreement, and the Church has not laid out explicit guidelines on all such matters. They permit pants on women, for example.

 

[LightBound]

Oh heavens! Here we go again! Can we not derail it…just this once? How nice it would be if everyone understood that the young lady has been given answers, and in fact, she has replied as to what she plans to do with the issue about her sister, based on the suggestions given way before it derailed. Situation has been resolved!!

 

[Luna_Lovecraft]

However, for whatever reason, although my mom generally dresses very modestly, my 11-year-old sister wears tight jeans, off-the-shoulder tops, and (the latest) a bikini.

By your own words you say you mom’s a good parent. So let her parent, Okay?

v v v You need to follow this excellent advice. v v v v

You are in college now, right? Enjoy your college experience and let your Mom deal with your 11 year old sister! As the mother of a former 11 year old girl (now 27!), I can tell you that worrying about bikini’s or shirts that fall off one’s shoulders is the least of the problems a parent can face. When I was in Hawaii last fall, the only girls who were not in bikinis were those my age (LOL!) or too heavy to fit in one. Foster a loving relationship with your sister so that as she moves through her teenage years you can become a confidant and friend - if you start criticizing her clothing at age eleven, that companionship will never have the opportunity to develop.

 

[severus68]

First of all this young lady has never said that this is a matter of doctrine so for you to use this term is in appropriate in this discussion.

Second polling young men from a range of backgrounds is a valid way of trying to gauge the general feelings of people. It may not be scientific but it is a step up from “I think” and with us fickle humans polling is, until they start employing some kind of mind reading technology, one of the few ways of finding out people thoughts and opinions in which case it IS perfectly legitimate to use the results of a poll in this sense.

Third, need I really add that this does not necessarily have to be, and is not, a Catholic issue. Where to draw the modestly line is a social issue. As I said before and I expand…the next step over the ‘modesty line’ from a bikini is to be naked but there are some who would say there is nothing wrong with that because God made us all beautiful and we should embrace our nakedness not hide it!

What inappropriate term did I use please?

A poll means nothing unless scientifically done with actuaries standing by to analyse the results.

I would think any real Catholic issue would be a social issue.
Well, God did make us and our bodies are beautiful in God’s sight.

 

[severus68]

Oh heavens! Here we go again! Can we not derail it…just this once? How nice it would be if everyone understood that the young lady has been given answers, and in fact, she has replied as to what she plans to do with the issue about her sister, based on the suggestions given way before it derailed. Situation has been resolved!!

 

[severus68]

By your own words you say you mom’s a good parent. So let her parent, Okay?

v v v You need to follow this excellent advice. v v v v

Good advice.

 

[ethereality]

Skimming through the first page of posts, I have the impression many of them were made by women: It seems women have a selfish close-minded view when it comes to the clothing they wear. “I’ll wear whatever I feel like, and don’t you dare tell me I shouldn’t or that it’s not proper.” The Barbie-doll vanity is very strong in the USA and I get the impression that some women can’t help themselves when they start thinking about clothing or jewelry: “If I like it, that’s all that matters, and I have no accountability for the thoughts of others, especially of men.”

I wish women would stop and seriously consider the matter objectively: It’s okay for women to walk around in their underwear – this is what a bikini essentially is – but men can’t? It’s okay for women to wear whatever they want, but men can’t? What about the “fashions that offend our Lord” that various mystics talk about? What about loving our neighbors as ourselves, and causing others to stumble?

Clothing seems like a drug for women; such heavy materialism, “I own about twenty pairs of shoes,” many young adult women seem able to say.

 

[Baelor]

It’s okay for women to walk around in their underwear – this is what a bikini essentially is – but men can’t?

Speedos and swim trunks are both essentially underwear, and I have not heard anyone complain about that.

It’s okay for women to wear whatever they want, but men can’t?

Men do wear whatever they want. My guess is that you see many more topless men than topless women.

 

[TheRealJuliane]

I want to first say that I have incredible parents. It is because of them that I am dedicated to my faith, and without the strong and vibrant example of their own faith, I would be far from being a good Catholic.
However, for whatever reason, although my mom generally dresses very modestly, my 11-year-old sister wears tight jeans, off-the-shoulder tops, and (the latest) a bikini. I’ve brought this up with my sister and she won’t listen to me (which is to be expected). Worse, I’ve brought it up with my mom and she just seems to brush it off. The most she’ll do is say something like, “Why don’t you wear a t-shirt under that?” but won’t enforce it. I don’t understand. I feel powerless to do anything.
Don’t get me wrong–my mom is a beautiful person. She is an incredible mother. I know this is just a lack of understanding on her part, and I know her far too well to think that there could be any kind of malice on her part. I will always love and respect her. I just feel like there is a problem here, and I don’t know what to do about it. Any advice?

I think your concern for your sister’s manner of dress is, well…very sisterly of you! I believe that part of the problem is the wide age gap between you and your sister. I have seen many parents of older teens who also have a much younger child, treat the younger child with a much more permissive set of rules/morals than they did their first child. In fact it is common for parents to relax a bit more with every child, until the “baby” of the family can get away with almost anything, and the older children are horrified that he/she is allowed so much freedom! I’m not saying it’s a good thing but I do believe it is a natural process of parenting that seems almost unavoidable. Parents do get tired of fighting the battles. And the culture only gets stronger as we parents find our energy being drained.

I think it is very honorable of you to be concerned for your sister’s modesty. However, as others have said, you do not have to take on the role of parent, even if you think she needs extra parenting. It actually removes your chance to influence her in a positive direction, for she will rebel against your dictates just as she would those of a parent. Try to stay in the role of older sister, and have fun with her. You can talk to her as you go on outings as sisters, not coming at her from way above her level, but trying to meet her where she is. If you don’t make disparaging remarks about her current clothing choices (not assuming you have done that, just saying it’s not as effective!), but instead talk about her choices in clothing, behavior, modesty, chastity, it might be more helpful to her and wouldn’t end up in her shutting you out. She might even turn to you for advice on boys, future dating, even to find out about sex! And then you can guide her in a sisterly way.

Siblings can have a very beneficial influence on each other. It’s obvious that you love your little sister dearly and want her to be safe and happy. And that is a noble goal.

 

[wald]

valoramedia.com/products-page/books/dressing-with-dignity/
Good book on the subject.

Dressing with Dignity

by Colleen Hammond

At last…The help you need to help you win the battle against indecent fashions!

Over 90,000 copies have shipped!

We are surrounded by an abundance of racy, tawdry clothing. Clothing that only a short time ago would have made the most immodest of men and women blush!

Gone are the days when women dressed with beauty and charm that accentuated their femininity. Much of what passes for women’s fashions today appeals to the baser senses of men and women, making it increasingly difficult to maintain the respect that women deserve.

You can change the world–one outfit at a time!

 

[wald]

Modesty in Dress Something to think about Part 1
St. William - Abbot
J.M.J.
THE REQUIREMENTS FOR MODESTY IN DRESS
LOOK TO THE BLESSED VIRGIN MARY AS A PERFECT EXAMPLE
Taken from olrl.org/virtues/modesty.shtml
In order to benefit from reading this article it is highly
recommended that you say the following prayer from Sacred Scripture:
“Speak Lord, your servant listens.” (Kings 3:9) It is also necessary
to reflect on the virtue of humility which is the indispensable
foundation of all Christian life. This truth God wished especially to
impress upon us by His Incarnation, when “He humbled Himself, becoming
obedient unto death, even to death on a cross.” (Phil. 2:8) We are
also taught in the Holy Bible that: “God resists the proud but gives
grace to the humble.” (James 4:6) It is realized that this appeal
will only affect a few because Our Lord tells us by another passage
that the road to hell is broad and many are those who go in thereat.
How narrow is the gate and straight is the way that leadeth to life,
and few there are who find it! (Matt. 7:13-14) But if this article
eliminates only one mortal sin, it will be worth the effort.

 

[wald]

part 2
Let us listen to the Holy Ghost speaking to us again in the Holy
Bible: “Do not love the world, or the things that are in the world.
If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him;
because all that is in the world is the lust of the flesh, and the
lust of the eyes, and the pride of life; which is not from the
Father, but from the world. And the world with its lust is passing
away but he who does the will of God abides forever.” (1 St. John
2:15, 17)

Our Sorrowful and Immaculate Mother, who in all her apparitions is
fully covered, is presented by her divine Son to us as the perfect
model of modesty and purity. She is terribly saddened by the immodest
and impure conduct so prevalent in our society. Our Lord speaks to us
through His Blessed Mother in condemning the modern trends of
uncovering the body. In fact, Our Lady came down from heaven to warn
against this disrobing trend. Listen to what she revealed to little
ten-year-old Jacinta of Fatima while she was dying in a hospital in
Lisbon, Portugal, in 1920: “Certain fashions will be introduced which
will offend Our Divine Lord very much. Those who serve God ought not
to follow these fashions.　 Our Lord is always the same.” And she
also revealed to Jacinta that “the sins that lead most souls to hell
are the sins of the flesh.”

Now let us look at pictures of Our Lady in three of her most famous
apparitions (olrl.org/virtues/modesty.shtml).

In her appearance to Blessed Juan Diego in Mexico, she left a self
portrait which has been miraculously preserved for over four
centuries. It is on display in the Basilica in Mexico City. The
pictures of Our Blessed Mother as she appeared at Lourdes to St.
Bernadette and to the three children at Fatima are from descriptions
provided by the seers. These appearances occurred over a period of
more than four centuries, but see how her dress is always the same.

Ladies, men, girls and boys should always wear clothing that they
would not be ashamed of in the sight of God. This would certainly
eliminate shorts, bathing suits and pants for females. Christ’s words
are very clear: “A woman shall not be clothed with man’s apparel,
neither shall a man use woman’s apparel; for he that doeth these
things is abominable before God.” (Deut.22:5) If Christ said that the
sexes should not wear each other’s clothes, it stands to reason there
is a distinct difference in men and women’s clothes. Now let us
reflect again on how the Mother of our Savior has been adorned in her
various appearances. Can you imagine her wearing slacks? How can we
say that we have a true devotion to Our Blessed Mother and continue
to follow worldly fashions and trends? Should we not follow her
perfect example?

Now if you are inclined to think that what this paper suggests is not
really necessary or that it is too demanding, reflect again on how few
take that narrow path to heaven and how many lose their souls.　 It
seems that very few people really think of hell and think that not
too many go there. Yet Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, warned that
“few find the narrow way to life, but many find the broad way to
hell.” (Mt. 7:13-14) So we cannot dispute this argument for we know
His words are infallibly true. But how many are saved? St.
Bonaventure, once speaking in Constantinople, asked this question
and, giving his own answer, said: “Of all the thousands in this city,
how many will be saved? How ought I to answer this question, or ought
I answer it at all? Perhaps hardly a hundred. Would to God I could be
certain of so many.” When St. Bernard died, a holy anchorite who had
also died at the same time appeared to the bishop of Langres and told
him that 30,000 had died at the same time. He and St. Bernard went
straight to heaven, 3 others went to purgatory and all the rest were
damned.

Father Eusebius Nieremburg, who resided at the College of Madrid,
where he died in the odor of sanctity in 1658, relates the story of a
noble and exceedingly pious lady, who asked God to make known to her
what displeased His Divine Majesty most in persons of her sex. The
Lord vouchsafed in a miraculous manner to hear her. He opened under
her eyes the eternal abyss. There she saw a woman a prey to cruel
torments and in her recognized one of her friends, a short time
before deceased. This sight caused her as much astonishment as grief:
the person whom she saw damned did not seem to her to have lived
badly. Then that unhappy soul said to her: “It is true that I
practiced religion, but I was a slave of vanity. Ruled by the passion
to please, I was not afraid to adopt indecent fashions to attract
attention, and I enkindled the fire of impurity in more than one
heart. Ah! If Christian women knew how much immodesty in dress
displeases God!” At the same moment, this unhappy soul was pierced by
two fiery lances and plunged into a caldron of liquid lead.

 

[wald]

part 3
St. John Chrysostom (347-407), the illustrious Bishop of
Constantinople and one of the 32 doctors of the Church, had this to
say about women who dress immodestly: “You carry your snare
everywhere and spread your net in all places. You allege that you
never invited others to sin. You did not indeed by your words, but
you have done so by your dress and your deportment. And much more
effectively than you could by your voice. When you have made another
sin in his heart, how can you be innocent? Tell me whom does this
world condemn? Whom do the judges in court punish? Those who drink
poison or those who prepare it and administer the fatal potion? You
are more criminal than those who poison the body. You have given the
death-dealing drink. You murder not the body but the soul, and it is
not to enemies do you do this nor are you urged on by any imaginary
necessity nor provoked by injury. But you do it out of foolish vanity
and pride.”

Woe to women who dress immodestly! Woe to fathers and husbands who do
not correct their wives and daughters! Woe to pastors of souls if they
remain silent! Woe to us, for this is one of the sins which causes
most souls to go to hell, sins of the flesh. “O that they would be
wise and would understand and would provide for their latter end.”
(Deut.32:29) “There is a way that seemeth just to a man; but the ends
thereof leadeth to death.” (Prov.14:12) “Few find the narrow way to
life.”
The problem of salvation is a very difficult thing; for according to
the maxims of the theologians, when an end demands great efforts,
only a few attain it; but not to make every effort to avoid eternal
damnation and to make sure of one’s salvation is something
inconceivable. God wants all men to be saved. He tells us so in the
Holy Bible; that He enlightens every man that cometh into this world.
In a hundred places in Holy Scripture, God tells us that it is truly
His desire to save all men. “I live, saith the Lord God. I desire not
the death of the sinner. Be converted and live.” (Ex.18-32) He
provides us with all the means most proper for us to be saved.

Now let us listen to St. Anselm, Bishop, Confessor and Doctor of the
Church, on this matter of salvation: “If you want to be certain of
being in the number of the Elect, strive to be one of the few, not
one of the many. And if you would be quite sure of your salvation,
strive to be among the fewest of the few; that is to say: do not
follow the great majority of mankind, but follow those who enter upon
the narrow way, who renounce the world, who give themselves to prayer,
and who never relax their efforts by day or night, so that they may
attain everlasting blessedness.”
Let this paper be ended on a positive note. The eminent way to
protect and nourish an unsullied and perfect chastity, as proven by
experience time and again throughout the course of centuries, is
solid and fervent devotion to the Virgin Mother of God. St. Gregory
of Nicomedia encourages sinners by assurance if they have recourse to
Our Blessed Mother, with a determination to amend their lives, she
will save them by her intercession. To obtain favors from Our Lady,
we must perform certain devotions practiced by her servants: First,
to recite at least five decades of her Rosary every day. Second, to
wear the Brown Scapular of Our Lady of Mt. Carmel. Third, to have a
picture or a statue of Our Lady in our home and recite her litany
every day. There are other devotions by the servants of Mary, but
most of all we should recommend ourselves frequently to her in
prayer. “If you persevere until death in true devotion to Mary, your
salvation is certain.” St. Alphonsus Maria Liguori, Bishop and Doctor
of the Church.

You are urged to adopt a true devotion to Mary by beginning to
practice the exercises listed above. This is a small price to pay to
be assured of our eternal salvation.

 

[LightBound]

Here we go again…

 

[LightBound]

part 2

Our Sorrowful and Immaculate Mother, who in all her apparitions is
fully covered, is presented by her divine Son to us as the perfect
model of modesty and purity. She is terribly saddened by the immodest
and impure conduct so prevalent in our society. Our Lord speaks to us
through His Blessed Mother in condemning the modern trends of
uncovering the body. In fact, Our Lady came down from heaven to warn
against this disrobing trend. Listen to what she revealed to little
ten-year-old Jacinta of Fatima while she was dying in a hospital in
Lisbon, Portugal, in 1920: “Certain fashions will be introduced which
will offend Our Divine Lord very much. Those who serve God ought not
to follow these fashions.　 Our Lord is always the same.” And she
also revealed to Jacinta that “the sins that lead most souls to hell
are the sins of the flesh.”

Now let us look at pictures of Our Lady in three of her most famous
apparitions (olrl.org/virtues/modesty.shtml).

Ladies, men, girls and boys should always wear clothing that they
would not be ashamed of in the sight of God. This would certainly
eliminate shorts, bathing suits and pants for females. Christ’s words
are very clear: “A woman shall not be clothed with man’s apparel,
neither shall a man use woman’s apparel; for he that doeth these
things is abominable before God.” (Deut.22:5) If Christ said that the
sexes should not wear each other’s clothes, it stands to reason there
is a distinct difference in men and women’s clothes. Now let us
reflect again on how the Mother of our Savior has been adorned in her
various appearances. Can you imagine her wearing slacks? How can we
say that we have a true devotion to Our Blessed Mother and continue
to follow worldly fashions and trends? Should we not follow her
perfect example?

Now if you are inclined to think that what this paper suggests is not
really necessary or that it is too demanding, reflect again on how few
take that narrow path to heaven and how many lose their souls.　 It
seems that very few people really think of hell and think that not
too many go there. Yet Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, warned that
“few find the narrow way to life, but many find the broad way to
hell.” (Mt. 7:13-14) So we cannot dispute this argument for we know
His words are infallibly true. But how many are saved? St.
Bonaventure, once speaking in Constantinople, asked this question
and, giving his own answer, said: “Of all the thousands in this city,
how many will be saved? How ought I to answer this question, or ought
I answer it at all? Perhaps hardly a hundred. Would to God I could be
certain of so many.” When St. Bernard died, a holy anchorite who had
also died at the same time appeared to the bishop of Langres and told
him that 30,000 had died at the same time. He and St. Bernard went
straight to heaven, 3 others went to purgatory and all the rest were
damned.

Father Eusebius Nieremburg, who resided at the College of Madrid,
where he died in the odor of sanctity in 1658, relates the story of a
noble and exceedingly pious lady, who asked God to make known to her
what displeased His Divine Majesty most in persons of her sex. The
Lord vouchsafed in a miraculous manner to hear her. He opened under
her eyes the eternal abyss. There she saw a woman a prey to cruel
torments and in her recognized one of her friends, a short time
before deceased. This sight caused her as much astonishment as grief:
the person whom she saw damned did not seem to her to have lived
badly. Then that unhappy soul said to her: “It is true that I
practiced religion, but I was a slave of vanity. Ruled by the passion
to please, I was not afraid to adopt indecent fashions to attract
attention, and I enkindled the fire of impurity in more than one
heart. Ah! If Christian women knew how much immodesty in dress
displeases God!” At the same moment, this unhappy soul was pierced by
two fiery lances and plunged into a caldron of liquid lead.

Oh no!
Here we go, yet again…

Those bifurcated pieces of fabric (PANTS) have been worn by people of either gender in many cultures since time began! This has been explained on CAF more time than I care to count. As we all know, in Biblical times, in Biblical lands, NOBODY wore pants…men wore robes and tunics and women wore robes.

This may cause someone to have a heart attack, but yes, I can imagine the Blessed Mother wearing modest ladies’ pants…had she been born in a different culture (the Orient) or a different time (the 20th or 21st century if we are speaking of the Western World). In fact, Br Joseph has stated this over in the Traditional Catholicism section before.

What the Church says about Fatima can be found here: vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html

Saint Gianna Beretta Molla wore ladies’ trousers and I would hardly call her immodest or dressing as a man.

Even the signs outside Vatican Churches have “stick people” figures showing what is considered modest and appropriate wear inside the Church.
It includes illustrations of women in pants! If it’s good enough for the Pope and the Vatican, it’s good enough for me. (Which is what Colleen Hammond herself said on post #92 :forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=644491&page=7)

 

[TheRealJuliane]

part 2
but see how her dress is always the same.

Ladies, men, girls and boys should always wear clothing that they
would not be ashamed of in the sight of God. This would certainly
eliminate shorts, bathing suits and pants for females. Christ’s words
are very clear: **“A woman shall not be clothed with man’s apparel,
neither shall a man use woman’s apparel; for he that doeth these
things is abominable before God.” (Deut.22:5) **If Christ said that the
sexes should not wear each other’s clothes, it stands to reason there
is a distinct difference in men and women’s clothes. Now let us
reflect again on how the Mother of our Savior has been adorned in her
various appearances. Can you imagine her wearing slacks? How can we
say that we have a true devotion to Our Blessed Mother and continue
to follow worldly fashions and trends? Should we not follow her
perfect example?

Christians are not bound by the Old Testament. We are under the New Covenant, and nowhere in the New Covenant does Jesus say “Women are not to wear pants.”



and, p.s. - when Jesus walked the earth, MEN wore long “dresses.” Is that “man’s apparel?” Should men wear long flowing robes and women wear slacks? This whole idea is absurd.