My parish/church: Is it traditional or new order

[JohnnyReb]

How do I tell? I know my parish was established after Vatican 2, and embraces the V2 reforms. Coming in from a Protestant background, I do not see the church as “liberal”. The RCIA seems to affirm traditional stances of the Catholic church, as far as faith and morals go. What are some things I can look for to tell. I read alot on here about traditional mass versus new order. Are there any othe types. Sorry if this sounds elementary.

 

[Kielbasi]

“New order” or “novus ordo” means that the church uses the vernacular liturgy as opposed to the traditional Latin mass.

Does the priest pray in English? Does he face the people when he says mass?

If so, its definitely “new order” , which is 99% of the Roman Catholic churches in the US and definitely not derogatory.

 

[JohnnyReb]

“New order” or “novus ordo” means that the church uses the vernacular liturgy as opposed to the traditional Latin mass.

Does the priest pray in English? Does he face the people when he says mass?

If so, its definitely “new order” , which is 99% of the Roman Catholic churches in the US and definitely not derogatory.

Thanks, exactly what I needed to know, the priest faces the people and prays in English, so that makes it our church new order.

 

[StatCrux]

Just to clarify-

Your *church *isn’t new order. It is Catholic. It celebrates the Mass according to the new order, but there are other Catholic Churches that celebrate the Mass according to an older order. They are both 100% OK. You can get solid, faithful Catholicism at either. (Not always the case, but you can). Welcome home!

-SC

 

[BobP123]

Does the priest pray in English? Does he face the people when he says mass?

If so, its definitely “new order” , which is 99% of the Roman Catholic churches in the US and definitely not derogatory.

I doubt if 99% use all English in the liturgy.

 

[Kielbasi]

I doubt if 99% use all English in the liturgy.

The 99% figure is the approximate percentage of Catholic churches that use the ordinary novus ordo rite, not just English speaking churches.

I do know that there are still a sizable number of ethnic based parishes that use Polish, Slovak or other foreign languages, as well as some Latin masses in the new rite. I couldn’t guess what the numbers of those parishes would be.

I sort of assumed that the English typing OP would be attending an English speaking parish.

 

[bear06]

“New order” or “novus ordo” means that the church uses the vernacular liturgy as opposed to the traditional Latin mass.

That’s not quite accurate. I go to a Novus Ordo Mass and the whole thing is in Latin. Besides that, there are other people here who attend the Novus Ordo in Latin ad Orientum.

 

[cascherman]

Just to clarify-

Your *church *isn’t new order. It is Catholic. It celebrates the Mass according to the new order, but there are other Catholic Churches that celebrate the Mass according to an older order. They are both 100% OK. You can get solid, faithful Catholicism at either. (Not always the case, but you can). Welcome home!

-SC

wonderful points, agreed!

 

[MrS]

That’s not quite accurate. I go to a Novus Ordo Mass and the whole thing is in Latin. Besides that, there are other people here who attend the Novus Ordo in Latin ad Orientum.

… which is the way it was meant to be. All the other abuses-turned-norms are NOT what was intended.

Very few NO Masses are celebrated correctly today… very few.