C
CatholicKrishna
Guest
Our Diocese doesn’t have Lay Deacons, only Transitional Deacons.
- Status
P
Panis_Angelicas
Guest
Ditto!
T
TableServant
Guest
(Said without rebuke…)
There actually aren’t Lay Deacons. Deacons in the Catholic Church are ordained, so deacons are either transitional or permanent.
God bless you,
M
misericordie
Guest
Thank God, my parish has none. Why is it most of these permenent deacons lean to the LIBERAL SIDE?
S
system
Guest
Who said that they do?
A
aByzantineCatho
Guest
Melman,
We assign labels because many of these men are harmful to the faith and should be avoided at all cost.
Might I suggest a good book for you?
goodbyegoodmen.com/
God Bless!
We assign labels because many of these men are harmful to the faith and should be avoided at all cost.
Might I suggest a good book for you?
goodbyegoodmen.com/
God Bless!
K
KCT
Guest
Our deacons give the best homilies! One is particularly challenging. When I see him on the altar, I know we’re in for a great homily!! —KCT
S
Stu
Guest
Oh how I miss Our Lady Star of the Sea! As you said, outstanding clergy that complement each other. (Cut Father some slack, he was an accountant after all
) I truly miss a church where Mass is done by the book. How I wish I had that in Maine.
S
system
Guest
I’m sorry, but that makes no sense.
The point, which is made time and again on these forums, is that one person’s “traditional” is often another person’s “liberal”.
And Goodbye, Good Men has nothing at all to do with this particular discussion.
D
Deacon2006
Guest
All deacons are chosen by God. While some maybe mistaken about a liturgical practice the main puprose of their ordination is service to the marginalised.
I have found that some of the most liberal deacons to also be the most devoted to their service ministry.
So yes I keep my BS radar on when I run into an older deacon in a liturgical setting but I am all ears when they share how they ministered in a pallative care ward or a prison for over 20 years.
When you discern the the best and leave the rest you will realize what a silly thing it is to say that we must avoid these men at all costs.
Peace and God Bless
P
Panis_Angelicas
Guest
Well, I kinda think we’re all chosen by God, or we wouldn’t be here.
Even Jesus hand selected Judas.
Being “chosen” doesn’t insure infallibility, holiness, or anything of the kind.
In fact, I do honestly feel that those who are especially called by God also have “higher ranking spiritual enemies” (tempters) and truly deserve our prayers.
As far as liberal or traditional goes, deacons are formed by their dioceses, are they not? There, you have it. As the diocese goes, there goes the deacon. I’ve seen a very, very conservative man go into the deaconite, and come out amazingly liberal. So liberal (since he used to be a conservative) that he knew who all the conservatives in the parish were, and how they felt, and actually took steps to break them apart while serving on parish committees. One conservative to say, seven liberals at a meeting.
But that’s no big deal, really. The Spirit God gives is no cowardly spirit.
Anyway, I think that being called to the deaconite is wonderful blessing ~ God bless all deacons!
I do hope that they do much reading of the instructions coming from Rome, just to be certain that their diocese is obedient.
The one thing we do not need here in the US is any more men thinking that they know better than the pope.
Deacon2006, May God especially bless you in your studies. (I just gave you “my” blessing!
)Pax Christi. <><
P
Panis_Angelicas
Guest
Panis Angelicas:
Pax Christi. <><
*or women!
Pax Christi. <><
K
kmktexas
Guest
I belong to a parish with no deacon. Just the pastor. Our diocese had 60+ deacons ordained last year but since most went back to their own parishes, this didn’t help the situation in the far off parishes. Most of the parishes outside the city limits have the same situation. One priest, no deacons.
On the other hand, I am spending a few months in Venezuela while my husband is on a project. The church we attend here has one priest and a deacon. The deacon is a transitional Deacon, rather than permanent. He does not read the gospel or preach, so I have no idea about his orthodoxy. But he is very reverent at the altar.
On the other hand, I am spending a few months in Venezuela while my husband is on a project. The church we attend here has one priest and a deacon. The deacon is a transitional Deacon, rather than permanent. He does not read the gospel or preach, so I have no idea about his orthodoxy. But he is very reverent at the altar.
S
space_ghost
Guest
I would guess (just a guess mind you) that he is orthodox, traditional, liberal, conservative and fair minded too… he’s a fair example of person trying to serve others… yeah, a really nice guy trying to spread kindness to all who meet him… 
D
deaconswife
Guest
Handsome - but then again I am probably not the most impartial person to ask that question about him.
P
Patrick
Guest
Not to be picky but there is a lot of misinformation out there about deacons. There is no such think as a “lay deacon”. All deacons are ordained and as such are clerics. Permanent and transitional deacons have the same status and rank - it’s just thant transitional deacons will be ordained priests as well - but even when they become priests, they are still deacons.
D
Deacon_Ed
Guest
Melman:
Deacon Ed
On the contrary, deacons give homilies for the same reason priests do – it’s part of the charism they received at ordination. According to Rome deacons should preach regularly:
This statement comes from Congregation of Clergy in the Directory for the Ministry and Life of Permanent Deacons issued this year.
Deacon Ed
T
TJD
Guest
Well I blew my vote. My Deacon is Orthodox not Traditional. He is a fine man, with a fine wife. (She is probably our Parish’s best lector.) He proclaims the Gospel well and says an occasional homily. He does very well serving at the alter. One minor quality that I respect about him is he does not attract attention to himself when on the alter. He moves purposefully, otherwise remains reverently still. I have pointed this out to my son on occasion who should remember this example when he serves as an alter boy. Our Deacon serves at the local hospital. They are blessed to have him.
Many thanks to all our deacons and their wives. Their sacrifices are appreciated.
Christ’s Peace,
Many thanks to all our deacons and their wives. Their sacrifices are appreciated.
Christ’s Peace,
D
Deacon_Tony560
Guest
My parish deacon is me. Which proves that God has a sence of humor, when he called someone as unworthy as me to his service. But then, we are all unworthy!
F
frdave20
Guest
i dont know… to be honest. he is hardly ever there, and i haven’t seen him at Mass since Feast of the Baptism of Our Lord.
- Status