My religion is better than your religion

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RobHom said:
No, God wrote them. Moses brought them down off the mountain. They were laws given to the Jews. Catholics/Christians adopted them and these commandments were further codified into secular law in most countries…at least the “civilized” ones.
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So the Catholics cannot take credit for the Ten Commandments…

Back to my previous question which I’ll make more clear… are there any unique Catholic church rules that should be laws of the land?
 
DelScorcho said:
So the Catholics cannot take credit for the Ten Commandments…

Back to my previous question which I’ll make more clear… are there any unique Catholic church rules that should be laws of the land?
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You seemed to have a problem with governments making laws based on religious morality.

Are you now changing your position?

Assuming that you are, :o , you’ll have to be more specific about which Catholic laws you are referring to.

Should abortion, which I believe is murder, be illegal? I think most practicing Catholics would answer yes. What would you answer?

Should the requirement to attend mass be a law? I think that almost all Catholics would answer no.
 
CHESTERTONRULES said:
You seemed to have a problem with governments making laws based on religious morality.

Are you now changing your position?

Assuming that you are, :o , you’ll have to be more specific about which Catholic laws you are referring to.

Should abortion, which I believe is murder, be illegal? I think most practicing Catholics would answer yes. What would you answer?

Should the requirement to attend mass be a law? I think that almost all Catholics would answer no.
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I’m not advocating any new laws… this is simply an exercise in curiosity for me and an exercise in fantasy for you.

Pick anything that you’d like to see in a law… it does not matter if it is realistic or not.

For instance, would you like to see premarital sex illegal, or contraception illegal, etc?
 
DelScorcho said:
For instance, would you like to see premarital sex illegal, or contraception illegal, etc?
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Premarital sex IS illegal in many US jurisdictions and contraception was illegal until 1965.

Remember that ALL Christianity was opposed to contraception until the 20th century.
 
jmcrae said:
Ah. So you don’t believe the teachings of your own religion, either. No wonder you have so much trouble with ours! :newidea:
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Please enlighten me to these teachings of my religion to which you refer.
 
DelScorcho said:
You said a committee compiled a list and then asked me who wrote the list and I said men… that’s the fact jack.

Check this out (especially near the bottom of the page):

pcusa.org/pcnews/2004/04498.htm
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“I can’t imagine marrying someone without having sex with him first,” a young, single Presbyterian said in an interview. “What if we’re not compatible? And I don’t think it’s wrong.”
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Wow. Okay, so a life partner for marriage is a commodity, like shoes or a dress, and you need to try them on for fit, first, before deciding whether or not to marry them?

Newsflash, God designed us “one size fits all” - there is no need for a “try on” before marriage.
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  Annika Lister Stroope, a young married pastor from Minneapolis, put it this way in one of the small groups. In her 20s, as a single student in graduate school, “I was supposed to be able to pay my bills, get an education, drive a car, own property,” but not have sex. “I was supposed to be a grown-up in every way except having sex.”
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Grown-ups have this thing - it’s actually a gift from God and one’s parents - it’s called “self-control.” Even married people have to have self-control, or else what are you going to do when your spouse is seriously ill, or out of town, etc.? Or are you also excused for having sex with a stranger because your spouse was unavailable for some reason? (And all of the above assumes that marriage is all about sex, rather than being a covenant partnership.)
Underlying the debates in the church over sex are differing views of how to interpret Scripture, Stotts said. Some Christians look for pervasive themes in the Bible; others fasten onto particular verses they see as providing moral rules. Some start by considering sex in terms of relationships, others with moral law.
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  “If you begin with relationships, you’re open to change,” as the church has done with its views on divorce and contraception, Stotts said. “If you begin with moral law, there’s no way you can open yourself to change.”
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That’s actually kind of the point.
 
jmcrae said:
Wow. Okay, so a life partner for marriage is a commodity, like shoes or a dress, and you need to try them on for fit, first, before deciding whether or not to marry them?

Newsflash, God designed us “one size fits all” - there is no need for a “try on” before marriage.

Grown-ups have this thing - it’s actually a gift from God and one’s parents - it’s called “self-control.” Even married people have to have self-control, or else what are you going to do when your spouse is seriously ill, or out of town, etc.? Or are you also excused for having sex with a stranger because your spouse was unavailable for some reason? (And all of the above assumes that marriage is all about sex, rather than being a covenant partnership.)

That’s actually kind of the point.
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My point is that my religion is quite different form yours…

AND one size doesn’t always fit all… trust me, I’ve been with more than one person.
 
DelScorcho said:
My point is that my religion is quite different form yours…

AND one size doesn’t always fit all… trust me, I’ve been with more than one person.
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I assume you managed to “make it fit” with all of them? My point stands.
 
seeker_of_God said:
DelScorcho, please see my reply to you a while back.

How do you think that your church is correct? How do you think truth is relative, when no other truth outside of religion is said to be relative?
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I don’t believe that there is one true religion. I respect your right to believe that your religion is the one true religion, conversely I doubt you respect my right to believe that there is none.
 
DelScorcho said:
I’m not trying to be insensitive, but if you’ve only been with one person, how can you speak on that?
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Well, you know, like most other people, I did study anatomy in college - in my case, though, I took the class; I didn’t do the experiential model. So, although I was a virgin when I got married; I was not an idiot. 😉
 
DelScorcho said:
I don’t believe that there is one true religion. I respect your right to believe that your religion is the one true religion, conversely I doubt you respect my right to believe that there is none.
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If God hasn’t given us a religion to be in, then why bother to be in one? Obviously, it isn’t a requirement, if He never even gave us any to follow.
 
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