My sins are forgiven.. so why would I still need a priest?

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It certainly is, the Priest is acting “In persona Christi” Jesus gave them that authority!
Indeed. This misconception seems to be believers’ barrier.

Believers, you see, we understand that only God has the authority to forgive sins. We also understand the Apostles spoke for Jesus and that Jesus was sent by God with authority. Jesus in turn sent them with the SAME authority and then immediately breathed on them to forgive sins by the Spirit! And this power remains till the end of this age. Again, when you are absolved by the priest, it is Christ doing so through him. 🙂
 
First we need to be clear. Only God can forgive sins CCC1441, Mk:27. But Jesus, the God-man entrusted His apostles with the "ministry of reconciliation 2Cor5:18, and to accomplish this ministry gave them the power to forgive sins. We will hear it this Sunday at mass. John 20:21-23, Jesus told the apostles that any person’s sins they forgive are forgiven, and whoever’s sins they retain are retained.

Why didn’t Jesus just have his followers confess their sins directly to God in prayer or why did he tell us to go to a priest, another human being to confess & receive absolution? Simply because our sins not only wound our relationship with God, they harm our relationship with others and with the church CCC1443.
Priests, by virtue of their ordination have been given the power to forgive our sins and reconcile us to God and the church. The spiritual direction can be very beneficial for our growth, despite any embarassment or discomfort we may have in confessing our sins. Remember humility is good for us. However, personally, I receive so much more through confession…it is good for the soul and the spirit to know that my sins have been forgiven.

Since Jesus has established a way to have our sins forgiven, and thus return us to grace…we should do it regularly. Jesus knows us better than we know ourselves, and he gave us the sacrament of reconciliation because we surely need it!
 
Why did you leave the Catholic Church?

Do you remember what you say in the confessioal with the priest when you partake of this Sacrament?

I will help You

Act of Contrition

Oh my God, I am Heartily sorry for having offended You, and I detest all my sins because of Your just punisments, But most of all because they offend You, my God, Who are all good and deservingof all my love.
I firmly resolve, with the help of your Grace, to sin no more and to avoid the unnecesary occasion of sin.
Amen

Who are you talking to here?

First and foremost you must be truly sorry and have full intentions not to re-sin. A confession without the intention to not re-committ is useless.

The priest has the authority to forgive by the laying of hands and was clearly given to the Apostles by Jesus

Those sins you forgive are forgiven and those you retain are retained.

You as an ex-Catholic know that so therre must be an underlining reason why you left.

Baptism was given to take away the sin inherited from Adam (original sin) and any sins we personally committed before baptism—sins we personally commit are called actual sins, because they come from our own acts. Thus on the day of Pentecost, Peter told the crowds, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38), and when Paul was baptized he was told, “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). And so Peter later wrote, “Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 3:21).

For sins committed after baptism, a different sacrament is needed. It has been called penance, confession, and reconciliation, each word emphasizing one of its aspects. During his life, Christ forgave sins, as in the case of the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1–11) and the woman who anointed his feet (Luke 7:48). He exercised this power in his human capacity as the Messiah or Son of man, telling us, “the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins” (Matt. 9:6), which is why the Gospel writer himself explains that God “had given such authority to men” (Matt. 9:8).

Since he would not always be with the Church visibly, Christ gave this power to other men so the Church, which is the continuation of his presence throughout time (Matt. 28:20), would be able to offer forgiveness to future generations. He gave his power to the apostles, and it was a power that could be passed on to their successors and agents, since the apostles wouldn’t always be on earth either, but people would still be sinning.

God had sent Jesus to forgive sins, but after his resurrection Jesus told the apostles, “‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21–23). (This is one of only two times we are told that God breathed on man, the other being in Genesis 2:7, when he made man a living soul. It emphasizes how important the establishment of the sacrament of penance was.)

God Bless and I hope you find your way back home.

Apostles by Jesus = Disciples by Jesus

How many quantity of Apostles. Are apostles means same as disciples.if it is than i know the quantity.
 

Apostles by Jesus = Disciples by Jesus

How many quantity of Apostles. Are apostles means same as disciples.if it is than i know the quantity.
The two are not exactly the same. While Jesus had many disciples, only 12 of them were chosen to be Apostles and given the authority to forgive sins. By virtue of their offices, they also had the authority to appoint successors to carry on their ministries.
 
Confessing to a priest is not confessing to Jesus. Get on your knees, bow your head, and confess your sins unto the Lord.
Oh that’s really humbling.

And I am sure the Lord didn’t already know the sins until you filled him in, either.🤷
 
First we need to be clear. Only God can forgive sins CCC1441, Mk:27. But Jesus, the God-man entrusted His apostles with the "ministry of reconciliation 2Cor5:18, and to accomplish this ministry gave them the power to forgive sins. We will hear it this Sunday at mass. John 20:21-23, Jesus told the apostles that any person’s sins they forgive are forgiven, and whoever’s sins they retain are retained.

Why didn’t Jesus just have his followers confess their sins directly to God in prayer or why did he tell us to go to a priest, another human being to confess & receive absolution? Simply because our sins not only wound our relationship with God, they harm our relationship with others and with the church CCC1443.
Priests, by virtue of their ordination have been given the power to forgive our sins and reconcile us to God and the church. The spiritual direction can be very beneficial for our growth, despite any embarassment or discomfort we may have in confessing our sins. Remember humility is good for us. However, personally, I receive so much more through confession…it is good for the soul and the spirit to know that my sins have been forgiven.

Since Jesus has established a way to have our sins forgiven, and thus return us to grace…we should do it regularly. Jesus knows us better than we know ourselves, and he gave us the sacrament of reconciliation because we surely need it!
To give a good act of contrition is humbling indeed. For the embarassment and failure not to be everything we can to Jesus.

For we do hurt those we love, do feel remorse, and ask them for forgiveness and if we have hurt another then we break Jesus most important commandment to love one another as I have loved you.

For when we sin we break Jesus’s Commandment we hurt His Church and ask His Church --The Catholic Church (Jesus Himself) for confession and forgiveness.

To sin and not face the sin with another there is no repentance in it, no embarrasment, No reason to turn away from sin for we can just sin again and again and again.

Why in the early Church one had to confess one’s sins in front of the whole congregation to the priest to be absolved. I tell you that will help you turn away.

Sin --my definiton and how Jesus feels

We are Children of God and as such He loves us very much.

A child you have may committ a crime and then come the time to meet the Judge.

Your child is very sorry and truly repentent.

The judge gives your child ten years hard labor.

Would you not serve that time for your child?

Jesus has done that for us. He has served our time through His Passion.

The child must first be repentent otherwise he or she will meet you in jail for committing the same crime again.

You see Christ has not given us the ability to do as we please, to sin over and over again–for faith alone does not work for we must do a work and that is confess aloud,repentence, and pray we do not sin again but as human we fail.
 
What if that person dies before you have a chance to confess to them?

That is correct and very Catholic. Here is what the Catholic Church teaches:

Only God forgives sin
1441 Only God forgives sins.39 Since he is the Son of God, Jesus says of himself, “The Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins” and exercises this divine power: "Your sins are forgiven."40 Further, by virtue of his divine authority he gives this power to men to exercise in his name.41

1442 Christ has willed that in her prayer and life and action his whole Church should be the sign and instrument of the forgiveness and reconciliation that he acquired for us at the price of his blood. But he entrusted the exercise of the power of absolution to the apostolic ministry which he charged with the "ministry of reconciliation."42 The apostle is sent out “on behalf of Christ” with “God making his appeal” through him and pleading: "Be reconciled to God."43

Reconciliation with the Church
1443 During his public life Jesus not only forgave sins, but also made plain the effect of this forgiveness: he reintegrated forgiven sinners into the community of the People of God from which sin had alienated or even excluded them. A remarkable sign of this is the fact that Jesus receives sinners at his table, a gesture that expresses in an astonishing way both God’s forgiveness and the return to the bosom of the People of God.44

1444 In imparting to his apostles his own power to forgive sins the Lord also gives them the authority to reconcile sinners with the Church. This ecclesial dimension of their task is expressed most notably in Christ’s solemn words to Simon Peter: "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."45 "The office of binding and loosing which was given to Peter was also assigned to the college of the apostles united to its head."46

1445 The words bind and loose mean: whomever you exclude from your communion, will be excluded from communion with God; whomever you receive anew into your communion, God will welcome back into his. Reconciliation with the Church is inseparable from reconciliation with God.
I have forgiven all who have sinned against me. So, my sins can be forgiven. My sins are forgiven.

Rom 4:7 [Saying], Blessed [are] they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
 
Oh that’s really humbling.

And I am sure the Lord didn’t already know the sins until you filled him in, either.🤷
The Lord knows your sins. But to have them forgiven you must forgive all who have sinned against you first.
 
And a Muslim is qualified to know, one way or the other? 🤷
You shouldn’t talk about Muslims. According to the CCC (but not according to the Word of God), Muslims worship the same god you worship.
 
Indeed. This misconception seems to be believers’ barrier.

Believers, you see, we understand that only God has the authority to forgive sins. We also understand the Apostles spoke for Jesus and that Jesus was sent by God with authority. Jesus in turn sent them with the SAME authority and then immediately breathed on them to forgive sins by the Spirit! And this power remains till the end of this age. Again, when you are absolved by the priest, it is Christ doing so through him. 🙂
Here is what the Vatican does not understand. You cannot have your sins forgiven by Jesus UNLESS you forgive others first. Your sins are retained because you failed to forgive. A priest cannot of override this.
 
You shouldn’t talk about Muslims. According to the CCC (but not according to the Word of God), Muslims worship the same god you worship.
So do Protestants, and so do Jews. It doesn’t mean that they have the fullness of truth about Him.
 
Why did you leave the Catholic Church?

Do you remember what you say in the confessioal with the priest when you partake of this Sacrament?

I will help You

Act of Contrition

Oh my God, I am Heartily sorry for having offended You, and I detest all my sins because of Your just punisments, But most of all because they offend You, my God, Who are all good and deservingof all my love.
I firmly resolve, with the help of your Grace, to sin no more and to avoid the unnecesary occasion of sin.
Amen

Who are you talking to here?

First and foremost you must be truly sorry and have full intentions not to re-sin. A confession without the intention to not re-committ is useless.

The priest has the authority to forgive by the laying of hands and was clearly given to the Apostles by Jesus

Those sins you forgive are forgiven and those you retain are retained.

You as an ex-Catholic know that so therre must be an underlining reason why you left.

Baptism was given to take away the sin inherited from Adam (original sin) and any sins we personally committed before baptism—sins we personally commit are called actual sins, because they come from our own acts. Thus on the day of Pentecost, Peter told the crowds, “Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38), and when Paul was baptized he was told, “And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on his name” (Acts 22:16). And so Peter later wrote, “Baptism . . . now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ” (1 Pet. 3:21).

For sins committed after baptism, a different sacrament is needed. It has been called penance, confession, and reconciliation, each word emphasizing one of its aspects. During his life, Christ forgave sins, as in the case of the woman caught in adultery (John 8:1–11) and the woman who anointed his feet (Luke 7:48). He exercised this power in his human capacity as the Messiah or Son of man, telling us, “the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins” (Matt. 9:6), which is why the Gospel writer himself explains that God “had given such authority to men” (Matt. 9:8).

Since he would not always be with the Church visibly, Christ gave this power to other men so the Church, which is the continuation of his presence throughout time (Matt. 28:20), would be able to offer forgiveness to future generations. He gave his power to the apostles, and it was a power that could be passed on to their successors and agents, since the apostles wouldn’t always be on earth either, but people would still be sinning.

God had sent Jesus to forgive sins, but after his resurrection Jesus told the apostles, “‘As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.’ And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained’” (John 20:21–23). (This is one of only two times we are told that God breathed on man, the other being in Genesis 2:7, when he made man a living soul. It emphasizes how important the establishment of the sacrament of penance was.)

God Bless and I hope you find your way back home.
The RCC is religion… legalism thru sacraments. I’m not a fan of legalism. I’ve been set free and I now worship God in spirit and truth.
 
So do Protestants, and so do Jews. It doesn’t mean that they have the fullness of truth about Him.
The RCC is wrong, anyone not believing in the Son has not the Father.

1Jo 2:23
Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also].

That includes Muslims and Jews. However, Jews are different. They have a covenant with God. God will turn again to the Jews and fulfill this covenant after the Church leaves (rapture).
 
John 20:22-23
“And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’”

Protestants believe that Christians should confess their sins privately to God, and not to a priest. Why, then, does Jesus give the apostles the authority to forgive and retain sins? Because, unlike the Protestant belief, Jesus believed that Christians could best grow in holiness by confessing their sins to His priests and receiving absolution in the sacrament of confession. Confession is thus the normative way in which God forgives us our sins.

This passage is very powerful and troubling to the Protestant position. First, we see that Jesus breathes on His apostles in the upper room. The only other time God breathed on man was when He created him and breathed life into his body. Genesis 2:7. When God breathes on man, a transformation takes place. Here, the apostles were transformed into “other Christs,” filled with the Holy Spirit and endowed with Jesus’ divine authority to forgive sins. Thus, Matthew writes that God gave the authority to forgive sins “to men.” Matt. 9:8. We also note that Jesus makes no distinction between very serious sin (called “mortal sin”) and lesser sins (called “venial sin”). See 1 John 5:16-17. By virtue of God’s mercy, the apostles are able to forgive all sins.

We also note that the apostles were not only given the authority to forgive sin, but to retain sin as well. What does this mean? This means that the apostles were given the gift of rendering judgment on the sincerity of the penitent, and binding the penitent to works of penance in order for him to be forgiven of his sin. If, in the apostles’ judgment, the penitent was not sincere, or should be required to perform acts of penance in reparation for his sins, the apostles could retain the sin (withhold forgiveness) until their conditions were satisfied. While such authority is reserved to God alone, Christ shared this authority with the apostles.

The power to retain sin is extremely important because it gives priests the authority, not only to forgive sin, but to remove the temporal punishments due to sin (the Church calls the removal of temporal punishments due to sin already forgiven an “indulgence”). Certainly, if a priest can forgive a mortal sin (which, if unforgiven, would have sent the person to hell), the priest can certainly remove the temporal punishments due to venial sin. This is part of the priests’ binding authority (retaining sin and imposing penance) and loosing authority (forgiving sin and removing punishment due to sin).

Of course, Jesus’ gift of authority described in John 20:22-23 only makes sense if the penitent orally confesses the sins to the apostles. The apostles were not given the gift of mind reading, and, even if they were, forgiveness of sin would still depend on the sinner’s desire to be forgiven (the sinner would express that desire by confessing his sins to the priest). If oral confession were not required, the way that Jesus granted the gift to the apostles would not make any sense.

Finally, for the small group of Protestants who do acknowledge that the apostles had the authority to forgive and retain sins, they can only disregard John 20:22-23 by arguing that this authority terminated at their death. The problem with their argument is that it cannot be proven from Scripture (there is no place in Scripture that teaches the apostles’ binding and loosing authority terminated at death). Neither can the argument be proven from any historical record (the Church has been confecting the sacrament of confession for many centuries).

Moreover, these Protestants fail to provide an adequate explanation of why Jesus would grant such an incredible gift to the apostolic age, and then remove the gift from future generations. The answer, of course, is that He didn’t remove it. The gift was preserved through priestly succession by the sacrament of ordination as Christ intended, which the Scriptures often refer to as “the laying on of hands.” Acts 1:20; 6:6; 13:3; 8:18; 9:17; 1 Timothy 4:14; 5:22; 2 Timothy 1:6.

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John 20:22-23
“And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.’”

Protestants believe that Christians should confess their sins privately to God, and not to a priest. Why, then, does Jesus give the apostles the authority to forgive and retain sins? Because, unlike the Protestant belief, Jesus believed that Christians could best grow in holiness by confessing their sins to His priests and receiving absolution in the sacrament of confession. Confession is thus the normative way in which God forgives us our sins.

This passage is very powerful and troubling to the Protestant position. First, we see that Jesus breathes on His apostles in the upper room. The only other time God breathed on man was when He created him and breathed life into his body. Genesis 2:7. When God breathes on man, a transformation takes place. Here, the apostles were transformed into “other Christs,” filled with the Holy Spirit and endowed with Jesus’ divine authority to forgive sins. Thus, Matthew writes that God gave the authority to forgive sins “to men.” Matt. 9:8. We also note that Jesus makes no distinction between very serious sin (called “mortal sin”) and lesser sins (called “venial sin”). See 1 John 5:16-17. By virtue of God’s mercy, the apostles are able to forgive all sins.

We also note that the apostles were not only given the authority to forgive sin, but to retain sin as well. What does this mean? This means that the apostles were given the gift of rendering judgment on the sincerity of the penitent, and binding the penitent to works of penance in order for him to be forgiven of his sin. If, in the apostles’ judgment, the penitent was not sincere, or should be required to perform acts of penance in reparation for his sins, the apostles could retain the sin (withhold forgiveness) until their conditions were satisfied. While such authority is reserved to God alone, Christ shared this authority with the apostles.

The power to retain sin is extremely important because it gives priests the authority, not only to forgive sin, but to remove the temporal punishments due to sin (the Church calls the removal of temporal punishments due to sin already forgiven an “indulgence”). Certainly, if a priest can forgive a mortal sin (which, if unforgiven, would have sent the person to hell), the priest can certainly remove the temporal punishments due to venial sin. This is part of the priests’ binding authority (retaining sin and imposing penance) and loosing authority (forgiving sin and removing punishment due to sin).

Of course, Jesus’ gift of authority described in John 20:22-23 only makes sense if the penitent orally confesses the sins to the apostles. The apostles were not given the gift of mind reading, and, even if they were, forgiveness of sin would still depend on the sinner’s desire to be forgiven (the sinner would express that desire by confessing his sins to the priest). If oral confession were not required, the way that Jesus granted the gift to the apostles would not make any sense.

Finally, for the small group of Protestants who do acknowledge that the apostles had the authority to forgive and retain sins, they can only disregard John 20:22-23 by arguing that this authority terminated at their death. The problem with their argument is that it cannot be proven from Scripture (there is no place in Scripture that teaches the apostles’ binding and loosing authority terminated at death). Neither can the argument be proven from any historical record (the Church has been confecting the sacrament of confession for many centuries).

Moreover, these Protestants fail to provide an adequate explanation of why Jesus would grant such an incredible gift to the apostolic age, and then remove the gift from future generations. The answer, of course, is that He didn’t remove it. The gift was preserved through priestly succession by the sacrament of ordination as Christ intended, which the Scriptures often refer to as “the laying on of hands.” Acts 1:20; 6:6; 13:3; 8:18; 9:17; 1 Timothy 4:14; 5:22; 2 Timothy 1:6.

Clipped from here.
They are believers and so am I. I have the power to forgive those who sin against me and to retain those who sin against me. However, if I do not forgive… my sins will also not be forgiven by GOD.

The RCC has that wrong.
 
That includes Muslims and Jews. However, Jews are different. They have a covenant with God.
If to deny Christ is to be worshipping “a different” God, then with what God do the Jews have a covenant? Since obviously, they deny Christ and consider Him to be worse than a blasphemer.
 
Their are deadly sins and not so deadly sins, but sin ultimately leads to death.

Venial sins which are not deadly yet, can be confessed directly to God.

Mortal sins have to be confessed directly to Jesus, through his merciful eternal Priesthood, so that the sacrifice is made for your sins through his body and blood.

Confessing your sins to a valid priest **guarantees **your removal of sin on your soul through the Priesthood of Jesus.

If you confess your mortal sin to God, Without his Son present you do not have his guarantee and promise that you will be forgiven.

This is the difference from Catholics confessing their mortal sins to God through Jesus eternal priesthood which he established on earth through his apostles and successors.

Catholics have the guarantee and promise from God that their sins are forgiven.

Non Catholilcs are not sure if their mortal sins are forgiven.

It starts if you believe in the Priesthood of Jesus and his authority he placed on the apostles to forgive sins, or retain them. which is scriptural.

Jesus is always present when two or more are gathered in his name, in the confessional this passage comes to pass at every confession.

Jesus instituted the ministry of reconciliation for all of God’s children.

Now you have to be a part of the body of Jesus Christ for this ministry to apply, a child of the kingdom of God. There are some exceptions when it applies to the terminal ill, that makes this sacrament valid.
 
Believers, how do any of those verses contradict confession to a priest as Christ commanded? Please articulate. 🙂

It would also help to understand confession to a priest is not different than confessing to Jesus. 🙂
First of all, you have to find a priest. This is getting harder and harder to do. A number of posters have complained bitterly about the difficulty of even finding a priest available for confession , that they don’t even show up at scheduled hours.

Second, it is invalid to assert that something is true because the relevant verses or facts doesn’t contradict it. If this logic were followed generally, then one could assert anything that facts do not directly contradict.

I think that Jesus was referring to the Jewish custom of confessing sins to the offended party at Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement; one atones to G-d by atoning to the offended. This is still the requirement, even if it isn’t carried out very often. It is so much easier to confess directly to G-d.
 
I have the power to forgive those who sin against me and to retain those who sin against me. However, if I do not forgive… my sins will also not be forgiven by GOD.
What if you are *unable *to forgive someone? What if someone sins against you and you immediately die? So you have the power to keep someone from Heaven?
The RCC has that wrong.
According to whom?
 
They are believers and so am I. I have the power to forgive those who sin against me and to retain those who sin against me. However, if I do not forgive… my sins will also not be forgiven by GOD.

The RCC has that wrong.
Your view is impossible for two reasons. The first reason is that Jesus qualifies His statement. He starts off by saying, “As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” This raises the question, in what manner was Jesus sent to forgive? Mark 2:5-12 gives us the answer:

And when Jesus saw their faith, He said to the paralytic, “My son, your sins are forgiven.” Now some of the Scribes were sitting there, questioning in their hearts, “Why does this man speak thus? It is blasphemy! Who can forgive sins but God alone?” Jesus, knowing what they were thinking, said in part, “But that you may know that the Son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins,” – He said to the paralytic, “I say to you, rise, take up your pallet and go home.” And he rose, and immediately took up the pallet and went out before them all.

Jesus didn’t need to perform a miracle to show that He could forgive someone of a personal offense. The forgiveness spoken of is the forgiveness that makes salvation possible.

The second reason that John 20:21-23 does not refer to believers forgiving others who have wronged them, is that we are not given the option of retaining anyone’s sins. In fact, our own forgiveness is dependent on our forgiving others. Jesus tells us this very thing in Matthew 6:14-15: “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father also will forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.”

The only time sins would be retained, is when there is an obvious lack of repentance. This is only natural as Acts 3:19 tells us that repentance is necessary for forgiveness. The fact that the apostles could forgive or retain sins means that they would have to know what the sins were, and the disposition of the person in question. That could only happen if the person were to tell or confess his sins to the apostle. Furthermore, if this function were necessary in the first century it would be equally important today.
 
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