My sister wants to be a Jehovah Witnesses

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Keep trooping on what you’re doing. It’s tough to persuade people to convert.
Be sure that when you talk to your sister, you ask the “why” questions and you let her do the explaining/talking, then you just listen and gently (but firmly) show her the truth. Like others have said before, pray, pray, pray! This will take time, and your progress will seem to be very little, but if you continue to perserver things will start taking affect. (Like the mustard seed).

I had a couple of JW come to my door and the one thing that sticks to my mind that they couldn’t answer is this: They clam to believe in the one true god, but ask look up John 1:1; and compare what the King James Bible says to what the true Bible says. In the King James’ version it says “The Word is a god,” compared to the Bible’s, “The Word is God…”

Hmmm…the Word is a god…I thought they believed that God was the only god…

You’ve probably been through all this and heard it all, but I just wanted to give you my support. God Bless you on this journey!
 
Wow good luck with this one, pray to Jesus for strength in overcoming this challenge to your family and life. We will pray for you also!

When you are most troubled, turn to prayer, Jesus, and the Bible…
 
My sister in law was a Jehovah’s Witness. She converted from Catholicism. She married a JW, but is now divorced. She has a child though who is now being "forced"to go with Mom to Lutheran Church and with Dad to JW Hall (not Church, its a Hall!). How confusing will that be when he gets older (he is preschooler now)?

There are a couple of things that were big issues. I haven’t checked this with their teachings though, but a JW had to “give her away” at the wedding. Also, they don’t believe in receiving blood even for surgery, so maybe ask that if she had a child, is she prepared to let the child die during surgery or let herself die. Some situation may require blood. Ask her if she knows about their belief on receiving blood? If she does and if they don’t receive blood, then maybe she will not want to enter something that will put her child’s health in danger, not to mention no Christmas presents or birthday gifts.

I don’t think I would spend as much time defending the Catholic faith as I would putting down the JWs. I think her friends will be way too prepared for counter- arguing your comments about our Catholic faith. Instead, ask her to teach you more about the JWs and then point out the problems. Maybe letting her know that your concern has less to do with her leaving the Catholic Faith as it does being concerned about her life (no blood allowed) and her quality of life (secluded from family - no holidays etc.).

I think they discourage socializing with non-JWs. Ask her to check into what things gets her ex-communicated from JW and see if it sounds reasonable to her. I think keeping her Christian is the first thing to worry about and hopefully she will turn from the JW temptation and not fall away from Catholicism. I just think you might lose valuable time if you teach her how Catholicism is right. Instead, maybe it will be faster to show her the danger involved with being JW.

Will she be allowed to choose her friends or do they have to be JWs?

Will she be able to have her Dad “give her away” at her wedding?

If she is in a car wreck or has a serious surgery, can she receive blood to save her life?

Can she vote as an American citizen (I’m told JWs don’t vote)?

Can she celebrate Independence Day?

How does she feel about not having any birthday celebrations for her children or Christmas, or fireworks, or Valentine’s Day?

Is she prepared to let her child die in case of an emergency that requires a blood transfusion or have Doctors turn down surgery because she won’t allow blood? (This happened to my sister-in law. He would not do the hip surgery because of the risks of not allowing blood transfusion and they ended up going out of state for the surgery.)

It might not hurt to set her up with a date. Perhaps loneliness is pulling her in as it did my sister in law. See if you can get her out among other people her age for fun before they get her wrapped up into THEIR social events (for JWs only). That is my two-cents.
 
I want you to know that you’ve gotten some excellent advise here, but none of it is going to help *until *you are able to break down the issue of authority. I know–I work with JW’s and Mormons all the time.

Do not argue translations, or the name of GOD–which is I AM (Eheyeh asher Eheyeh HB; Ego Eimi GR), not Yaweh–see Ex 3:15, etc. Do not hold the Catholic Church up for what it is, yet. Your sister has been very carefully indoctrinated to distrust and deny anything you tell her–even if she knows in her heart that it’s true. And this is because you belong to the Catholic Church, period.

You have to sever the Watchtower claim to being GOD’s sole authority and organisation in the world before you can tackle any other issues–and you have to use the Watchtower’s own literature to do it. If you want photocopies of lierature and refutations from authorised sources [like the UN, various Court transcripts, the Watchtower Society’s own 1945 Charter, the Fathers of the Church, etc…], I can get them to you, along with a list of the historical Watchtower events that prove (from the WT’s own literature) that the organisation is a false prophet.

Other than that, pray!

In His Grace,

miki

Omnia Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam!
 
I believe all your prayers have helped my family. We’ve made some progress. My sisters and brother told my parents. My mom was in a little denial stage insisting that she won’t become a JW, but my dad was devestated. He like myself was mad because we saw signs earlier and didn’t take any early actions. He broke down really bad first crying in his room and then furious blaming her JW friend. He was convinced that he had plans to end up marrying her which made my dad sick to think about since she was only 23 and he was 39 years old. She still denies that she had any interest for him though. Anyway, she did not expect my parents reaction, she thought they would just get over it. The first day, she was really quiet with a wall up but agreeing to stop talking to her friend and forget about JW. She was just telling us what we wanted to hear. We were constantly talking to her showing her love with concern. I had taken her to Church a few days later and noticed she didn’t do the sign of the cross or take bread. That day, she had told my dad she didn’t want to go to Church anymore. My dad lost his temper and told her to leave the house. I took her home with me that night. She is very close to my dad so that got to her on an emotional level thinking she might lose her family. That night she decided that she would really open her mind and heart to the catholic faith and open her mind to the corruption of JW. She listened and acknowledged all of the wrong things I’ve found out about the JW and the history behind the Catholic faith. We also started going to a Theology class in my church. Obviously, my dad opened his home and heart back to her, but we’re still very concerned and know that is far from over. My husband, brother and father have all called her JW friend and his family and made it clear that he must stay away from her, but I fear that he still might try to contact her when things die down. She’s made progress but I need to make sure I am taking the right approaches. I would like to find out more about how corrupt and incorrect this organization is. Any suggestions?
 
As I said before, I can give you photocopies of any historical Watchtower literature you need–I have a full library, from the first Watchtower magazine to the present. As well, I have several historical documents that may be of help coming from outside sources that the WTS attacked by subterfuge or libel later on, and WTS documents that the Society denies exist to it’s current membership (like the 1945 Charter that states, in part, that witnesses publically worship Jesus Christ and GOD the Father Almighty…)

Your sister’s friend is not going to stay away–that’s guaranteed. The WTS has a book, Defending and Legally Establishing the Good News, originally published in 1950, that the Watchtower leadership still use to this day in coaching witnesses of their “rights” in responding to opposition and pushing propaganda (I have one if you’d like a photocopy). This and other more recent literature from their legal department are used to assert that witnesses have not only a right, but a duty, to impose themselves where they are not welcome to “save lives for the kingdom.” Being “persecuted” by outsiders is what witnesses live for–makes them feel like they are truly doing something great for GOD.

It’s a given, now, since your family has made an overt protest to their interference in your sister’s life, that they (he) will not only seek all the more to convert your sister, they will use the words and actions of your family members to make you look like “tools of Satan” wanting to keep her from “the Truth of Jehovah’s organisation.” They will also be encouraging your sister’s friend to “persevere for the Truth” and get your sister out of your family of “opposers” as quickly as possible…

Now is the time to start showing that girl proof in black and white, from the Society’s own records, of the WTS’s lies and mind-control techniques. You also might want to look at the watchtowerobserver website, among others, and download some personal stories of young women who got caught up in the Watchtower with stars in their eyes because of some man–many spend years of their lives being abused and terrorized before escaping, *if *they escape.

I’ll say it again, you have to show her that the Watchtower is not what it claims to be, now. My housemate found out eight years too late–and it was devastating to her. Now she doesn’t trust anyone at their word. Studies everything like a savant just so she can be certain she’s not being decieved–and it’s hard on her.

Still praying for you and yours…
 
Perhaps just start with finding out all the wacky things that these people believe and share with her…focus in on things that you know that your sister will have a hard time with. It will get her mind going.

I have a couple of friends who were JW (now converted to Catholic and to christianity) and they admit that it really messed them up psychologically. In particular, it really affected their self esteem and feeling of self worth. If you read up on it and see how they segregate people for their actions- its unbelievable.

Again, instead of arguing…presenting the facts should be enough. And, cheers to you for fighting for her! Sometimes prayer in addition to actions is needed to get results. After all, if we just pray and never act on our God given instincts, we wouldn’t get anywhere. Good for you for being strong and standing up.
 
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KAS:
I I would like to find out more about how corrupt and incorrect this organization is. Any suggestions?
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Get yourself a copy of Jason Evert’s book, “Answering Jehovah’s
Witnesses” That book is very detailed about the organization.
It will help you with your sister. Had one of my family members
shown it to me when I was a jw, I would have left that organization
immediately! It is a fabulous book! Keep your eyes open with your
sister, it might not be over. They are very very pursuasive! They
don’t quit, especially if she shows sings of interest. I have been
told thay they will even go behind your back and secretly study
with the person you know, or family, ext. This suation worries me.
I have seen it before. Arm yourself with knowledge about their
history. Talk to Jeff Schwem, he is very knowledgeable about the
organization. He is a member here. He can give you very good
sound advice. Keep us posted!
 
Your sister is, at this point, probably convinced that any opposition to her “JW BIBLE STUDY” is coming from the Devil himself. I was a JW, so I know how they think and how they train prospective converts to think. They TELL them to expect Satan to stir up opposition from family members and friends to their studying “The Truth” with Jehovah’s Witnesses. If you oppose her directly, she will regard you as a tool of Satan. She has already been trained to think that way.

I’d suggest that you have her get out the Bible, the book of Acts, and go through and name ALL of the cities and towns where Paul and the other apostles had preached the gospel and established churches before 100 A.D. You will find that this covers the entire mediterranean area. Then ask her gently, if Jehovah’s witnesses have the true doctrines of the ancient apostolic churches, then how come there is no evidence in ancient history of
an ancient Jehovah’s Witness doctrinal church gradually becoming a doctrinally-Catholic church. Such a thing would have provoked riots among the (allegedly) ancient JWs!!!
Yet there were no such things. Gently show her, from early church writings, that the churches OUTSIDE of the main body (the Catholic church) did not believe in what the JWs believe, either, so WHERE in the 1st and 2nd Century WERE the ancient Jehovah’s Witnesses??? Hundreds of thousands of people do not fall away from the faith overnight and all into the Catholic faith!!

Use REASON with her, but again, be very GENTLE,
because she has already been told by them to expect Satan to use you and her other relatives and friends to try and turn her away from “Jehovah’s Organization.” Any frontal attack by you will only confirm to her what the JWs have already taught her.

May the Lord help you in your task.
God bless,
Jaypeeto3
 
good for your sister. she should join the church her heart tells her is true. just because she is no longer a catholic makes her no less. why not just love her and respect her choices. maybe if you were to spend time studying why she felt the need to join another church you may learn something about your relationship which just may improve it. i assure you by critising her choice of faith you hurt your relationship with her. this does not mean that you have to agree with her choice but you must respect it.
 
paul barlow:
good for your sister. she should join the church her heart tells her is true. just because she is no longer a catholic makes her no less. why not just love her and respect her choices. maybe if you were to spend time studying why she felt the need to join another church you may learn something about your relationship which just may improve it. i assure you by critising her choice of faith you hurt your relationship with her. this does not mean that you have to agree with her choice but you must respect it.
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Ummm… actually no. If she loves her sister (and it sounds like she does very much) she has an obligation to warn her that becoming a JW and thereby denying the divinity of Jesus Christ, she’s making the biggest mistake of her life.

You said good for her sister that she should join the church her heart tells her is true. Well God says in His word that “the heart is deceitful above all things” (Jer 17:9) - and clearly this illustrates that perfectly because her sister is leaving the Fullness of the Faith - the Catholic Church for a faith that is based on the very misguided beliefs of Charles Russell - who rejected all that Christians throughout the centruries had believed. It is a very sad situation - one that requires much prayer & intervention.
 
Seven Sorrows:
Just ask her a few things…if Jesus is not God…how come no one knew for 1800 years until JW’s said it. Also, ask her what Jehovah is…if she says the name of God…check it out…the “biblical scholars” to got together to find the true religion and started JW’s…couldn’t even translate God’s name right…it is Yahweh…look for articles for proof of that. Even JW scholars now admit their name for God was mistranslated…but say “it is too late to change it now”… If they couldn’t evne get something like that right, what else did they get wrong? or if you get mad you can just say “well at least I will save alot of money not buying you presents” j/k
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can you reference this information stating that the JW’s misinterpreted the name of God, and that todays JW scholars have said that it is true and it is too late to correct it now?
 
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