My son devestated me today

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I have a 13-year-old daughter on the autism spectrum, and while she is doing socially rather better, I relate to the problem of hover-don’t hover.

My daughter, bless her heart, alternates between lamenting “Why didn’t anybody tell me XYZ!” and getting mad because I reminded her about XYZ. That can be irritating.

Good luck!
 
Perhaps this is a stupid question, and if so, forgive me. Is there a reason that you couldn’t have compromised on your going, but not being in his Communion line? I understand that was very important to you, but if it would have made him nervous, could you have gone to another line?
He would not buy that. Also, I had to give my husband a birthday present crucifix that I want blessed by the Aux. Bishop even though it was mine and I wanted to wear to while he blessed it. I wouldn’t even be in the same room as DS. He would be in the church and I would be in the parish house.
 
I think this is a good compromise to make. Can you suggest it to your son as a plan going forward, so you both know what will happen if this situation comes up again?

Lou
I actually told him I would abstain from the masses he serves at.
 
I have a 13-year-old daughter on the autism spectrum, and while she is doing socially rather better, I relate to the problem of hover-don’t hover.

My daughter, bless her heart, alternates between lamenting “Why didn’t anybody tell me XYZ!” and getting mad because I reminded her about XYZ. That can be irritating.

Good luck!
Thanks X. He is really pushing old buttons…those that go back from to my in-laws. I think he needs to be back in a brick and mortar school. He needs the services…whatever little they get.
 
Thank you for all the prayers and replies. Honestly, home schooling his has really burnt me out. Doing social skills for 22 years of my marriage plus adding DS’s has been too much for me to handle.
 
I admit that I yelled at him because I felt used for rearranging his schedule to attend two special events and felt rather unappreciated for what I done. I also am in severe back pain so, I was suffering the better part of this week with cold weather. My fuse was short.

I apologized to son and DH for yelling at them but for not being rude and hurting my feelings. Right now, I feel like I want to move out for a while.
Based on wanting to move out for a while and seeming anger toward DH… is it safe to assume the issues in the house are far more, and that this issue in particular is nearly mute since it is just a point of the much larger spear? Idk who is right/wrong, but I get the sense that his desire for you not to be there was based on a overaching sentiment and your provided glimpse with DH is that it is in your hone a them vs you feeling?
 
Thank you for all the prayers and replies. Honestly, home schooling his has really burnt me out. Doing social skills for 22 years of my marriage plus adding DS’s has been too much for me to handle.
Yeah. I hear you.
 
Based on wanting to move out for a while and seeming anger toward DH… is it safe to assume the issues in the house are far more, and that this issue in particular is nearly mute since it is just a point of the much larger spear? Idk who is right/wrong, but I get the sense that his desire for you not to be there was based on a overaching sentiment and your provided glimpse with DH is that it is in your hone a them vs you feeling?
Just guessing (Domer, tell me if I’m wrong), but I’m assuming that Domer feels like she is carrying everybody else, and nobody is carrying her.

Did I get that right?
 
One thing I’ve done over the years is that occasionally, I’ll grab one of my daughter’s psychologist appointments and use it to catch the psychologist up on stuff without my daughter being around.

That’s relatively easy for me because she’s in school during the school year and my husband is around during the summer, but if you can figure out how to sneak in an appointment, it could do you a lot of good to talk to a sympathetic and knowledgeable person.

Best wishes!
 
One thing I’ve done over the years is that occasionally, I’ll grab one of my daughter’s psychologist appointments and use it to catch the psychologist up on stuff without my daughter being around.

That’s relatively easy for me because she’s in school during the school year and my husband is around during the summer, but if you can figure out how to sneak in an appointment, it could do you a lot of good to talk to a sympathetic and knowledgeable person.

Best wishes!
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It sounds like it’s been so tough for you, OP. Make sure you have someone to talk to and support you.

Lou
 
Also, just saw your other post mentioning his homeschooling abd bullying. I do not kniw the history, but it sounds like you two are joined at the hip. Also, I am very wary of the term “bullying” today since people seem to want to live the bubble boy life… I could be very wrong, but if he is bucking against “hovering” I would say it sounds like compared to what he was used to in school just a year or so ago, you spend an extreme amount of time with him and may or may not be a bit overprotective and obviously as you mentioned you like to run damage control for all his interactions… he is becoming a man and has everything he says translated, he barely has his… er male parts and they sound very choped off. I can understand it a bit especially when you consider his syndrome based bluntness.
 
Thank you for all the prayers and replies. Honestly, home schooling his has really burnt me out. Doing social skills for 22 years of my marriage plus adding DS’s has been too much for me to handle.
Hugs and more prayers for you!!! :gopray:

It sounds like you have done an amazing job with your son! You sounded very encouraged about his progress in the other thread, so don’t let this one event upset you. He’s growing up, and it is fairly normal for a boy his age to pull back a bit from his mom. It’s a sign that relief is in sight! Even if you want to be responsible for all of his social skills, he doesn’t want you do be. He’s trying in his socially awkward way to take responsibility and face the consequences for his own social interaction by asking you to step back and let him face certain social interactions without you. He should have said that in a nicer way. But he was telling you in his way that it’s time to step back a bit, and your own burn-out is also telling you that it’s time to step back a bit.

You can–and should–still be proud of him. And you can–and should–get some rest.

Take some time off today. Perhaps if your back and the weather permits, take a walk in the sunshine. I will keep you in my prayers.
 
If you protect him from the consequences of his speech he will never learn. It’s better if he learns while he’s still at home how to talk to people rather than when he moves away to school or work. And, yes, people with Asperger’s can learn social interaction skills. I agree with 1ke that it’s time to cut the apron strings.
The OP’s situation is like learning to send one’s son out to cross the street by himself when he is blind or deaf. He can and ought to learn to be independent, but he cannot be expected to navigate with the same cues and the same level of outside support as everyone else. He lacks some of the natural senses that other people have. His brain does not get the same information the same way. He needs strategies and skill-building that other people do not need. He would be foolish to try to find these himself via trial and error. This is one wheel that he and his parents will NOT want to re-invent themselves!!!

The situation with serving for the confirmation Mass is an entirely typical issue between an altar serve and his mom exacerbated by the issue of Asperger’s.

I’m not discounting that Asperger’s is part of the issue, here. All I’m trying to point out is that there is almost as surely the issue of typical adolescence kicking in here, issues that can come up as soon as 10 or 11 years old but sometimes delay until 17 or 18 or even later. You’re also going to have the typical issues that can rear their head when a homeschooled student transitions to a different school model.

The son has reached the point where he wants independence. If he is typical, he wants more than he can handle and he is not going to be very mindful of his parents’ feelings as he tries to get it. The work of parents, regardless of whether their child’s neurological challenge is Asperger’s or the natural unwiring of the brain that goes along with a more run-of-the-mill adolescence, is to figure out how to guide and release the child to an independent life without erring too much either on the side of caution or the side of permissiveness.

There is no “right” balance of caution and permissiveness, because no one including the adolescent can predict how much of either they will need in a given situation. There will be days–in the most difficult cases, years!–when too much caution will still not keep the pre-teen, teen or young adult safe and too much permissiveness will still leave him or her feeling confined and oppressed. In other words, we’re not looking for a perfect trip. We’re looking to keep the vehicle out of the body shop as much as possible. OP, promise yourself that you will not beat yourself up because something very hard turns out to be hard for you, too. These painful trials are part of the process, not anything you did wrong. If you blame yourself for complaining or hurting, you may as well have blamed yourself for crying out when you gave birth in the first place, too.

Most parents need some support through this, either from books or from their children’s teachers or from parents of young adults who have made the transition and walked away from it without too many crashes. Double that for parents whose child can be expected to take this neurological transition even harder, and someone with Asperger’s will meet that condition.

OP, get your situation-specific support group in place. Make it bigger than you think you will need it to be. I would think this would involve finding someone who has gone through this with as many of your particular extra complication added in as possible. No one else can provide the reassurance, insights learned, and mercy that those folks can. Find them, as many as you can, enlist their aid, promise yourself to ignore what anyone else has to say if it doesn’t help you, and hang on tight. Again: It’s like giving birth. You are in charge, but don’t* ever* beat yourself up or cast blame because neither of you found the process of getting your child into adulthood a comfortable experience at the time. If you come out with a healthy child at the end, it will be a cause for great thanksgiving!

I wish there were an epidural for this. There’s not. Hang in there! 👍
 
The OP’s situation is like learning to send one’s son out to cross the street by himself when he is blind or deaf. He can and ought to learn to be independent, but he cannot be expected to navigate with the same cues and the same level of outside support as everyone else. He lacks some of the natural senses that other people have. His brain does not get the same information the same way. He needs strategies and skill-building that other people do not need. He would be foolish to try to find these himself via trial and error. This is one wheel that he and his parents will NOT want to re-invent themselves!!!

The situation with serving for the confirmation Mass is an entirely typical issue between an altar serve and his mom exacerbated by the issue of Asperger’s.

I’m not discounting that Asperger’s is part of the issue, here. All I’m trying to point out is that there is almost as surely the issue of typical adolescence kicking in here, issues that can come up as soon as 10 or 11 years old but sometimes delay until 17 or 18 or even later. You’re also going to have the typical issues that can rear their head when a homeschooled student transitions to a different school model.

The son has reached the point where he wants independence. If he is typical, he wants more than he can handle and he is not going to be very mindful of his parents’ feelings as he tries to get it. The work of parents, regardless of whether their child’s neurological challenge is Asperger’s or the natural unwiring of the brain that goes along with a more run-of-the-mill adolescence, is to figure out how to guide and release the child to an independent life without erring too much either on the side of caution or the side of permissiveness.

There is no “right” balance of caution and permissiveness, because no one including the adolescent can predict how much of either they will need in a given situation. There will be days–in the most difficult cases, years!–when too much caution will still not keep the pre-teen, teen or young adult safe and too much permissiveness will still leave him or her feeling confined and oppressed. In other words, we’re not looking for a perfect trip. We’re looking to keep the vehicle out of the body shop as much as possible. OP, promise yourself that you will not beat yourself up because something very hard turns out to be hard for you, too. These painful trials are part of the process, not anything you did wrong. If you blame yourself for complaining or hurting, you may as well have blamed yourself for crying out when you gave birth in the first place, too.

Most parents need some support through this, either from books or from their children’s teachers or from parents of young adults who have made the transition and walked away from it without too many crashes. Double that for parents whose child can be expected to take this neurological transition even harder, and someone with Asperger’s will meet that condition.

OP, get your situation-specific support group in place. Make it bigger than you think you will need it to be. I would think this would involve finding someone who has gone through this with as many of your particular extra complication added in as possible. No one else can provide the reassurance, insights learned, and mercy that those folks can. Find them, as many as you can, enlist their aid, promise yourself to ignore what anyone else has to say if it doesn’t help you, and hang on tight. Again: It’s like giving birth. You are in charge, and if you come out with a healthy child at the end, don’t* ever* beat yourself up or cast blame because neither of you found the process of getting their a comfortable experience at the time.

I wish there were an epidural for this. There’s not. Hang in there! 👍
Very nice.
 
I think i had mentioned my son was chosen to hold the Bishop’s crozier at our church’s Confirmation Mass . As we were getting ready, he tells me that he is so not sure if he wants me to go, but it is OK for DH to go.

A few minutes later, when DH was out of the shower, he told me that I was hovering and would make him nervous. He no longer wanted me to go. DH tried to explain we would be sitting in the back, so there was no worry of that.

I burst into tears. Because he has Aspergers, there is a degree of hovering I have to do in order to smooth out social situations for those who do not know he has it. Otherwise, he could really come off as rude and insensitive.

I am beyond hurt but not sure what kind of therapy or discipline we should inflict.

Thank you for reading.
I think you son was a bit nervous about the occasion. I would not punish him for expressing his feelings. I would revisit the comment and ask when he thinks you hover.

It’s will help to open communication for him,that he can come to you in the future…I think punishing will do the opposite.
 
One thing I’ve done over the years is that occasionally, I’ll grab one of my daughter’s psychologist appointments and use it to catch the psychologist up on stuff without my daughter being around.

That’s relatively easy for me because she’s in school during the school year and my husband is around during the summer, but if you can figure out how to sneak in an appointment, it could do you a lot of good to talk to a sympathetic and knowledgeable person.

Best wishes!
This is a REALLY good idea. Domer…who is YOUR support system?
 
Just guessing (Domer, tell me if I’m wrong), but I’m assuming that Domer feels like she is carrying everybody else, and nobody is carrying her.

Did I get that right?
Xantippe, you hit that nail on the head. And having elderly parents who also rely on you doesn’t help.
 
One thing I’ve done over the years is that occasionally, I’ll grab one of my daughter’s psychologist appointments and use it to catch the psychologist up on stuff without my daughter being around.

That’s relatively easy for me because she’s in school during the school year and my husband is around during the summer, but if you can figure out how to sneak in an appointment, it could do you a lot of good to talk to a sympathetic and knowledgeable person.

Best wishes!
Xantippe, I do also do that. Sadly, my DH is not around enough to corrects social skills so often there is a lot of that therapy I have to do alone. The fact that DH is also a loner and has no social life is a buzzkill.
 
Hugs and more prayers for you!!! :gopray:

It sounds like you have done an amazing job with your son! You sounded very encouraged about his progress in the other thread, so don’t let this one event upset you. He’s growing up, and it is fairly normal for a boy his age to pull back a bit from his mom. It’s a sign that relief is in sight! Even if you want to be responsible for all of his social skills, he doesn’t want you do be. He’s trying in his socially awkward way to take responsibility and face the consequences for his own social interaction by asking you to step back and let him face certain social interactions without you. He should have said that in a nicer way. But he was telling you in his way that it’s time to step back a bit, and your own burn-out is also telling you that it’s time to step back a bit.

You can–and should–still be proud of him. And you can–and should–get some rest.

Take some time off today. Perhaps if your back and the weather permits, take a walk in the sunshine. I will keep you in my prayers.
I agree but I guess’s hard hearing that your son is a smart mouth with really negative attitude which will serve to isolate him.
 
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