MY TESTIMONY: Salvation 101

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TESTIMONY OF ELLIS BRASHER, RUSK, TX
Like many youngsters I walked the aisle, joined the church and was baptized as an early teenager. I had no knowledge or understanding that true salvation does indeed involve more than just simply doing something dutiful that I had heard and read about.
Not knowing any better I was satisfied with my perceived salvation and then at about 18-19 years old I began drinking and then in 1962 I wound up in AA at the age of 29 and even then I still thought that years before I had completed my required functions as a Christian and was a saved person.
At this time in my life I had only a small knowledge of the Holy Spirit and had never experienced the feeling of His work. I had no idea that a person is only saved at the urging of the Holy Spirit.
I may have at one time or another read the below Bible verses, but apparently they did not sink in my young brain.

MATTHEW 18:20 “For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst.”
JOHN 14:6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”
John 6:44 “No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day.”
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 The last of the above verses unequivocally states that a person is only saved at the urging of the Holy Spirit and which is the Holy Spirit of the Father.
I now realize at that point in my life I was not saved and would not be until many years later.
In 1968 a workmate friend may have sensed that I was not saved and started witnessing to me about salvation, Jesus Christ, the Holy Spirit and many other aspects of true belief. A feeling came over me that I had never experienced before in my life. It was as if you want to rejoice and/or cry at the same time. My friend sensed what was happening and remarked “Ellis, I believe the Holy Spirit is speaking to you right now”. I was confused and simply replied that I did not know what he was talking about. Well, I never forgot that experience and I began to realize that sooner or later I was going to have to do something about it.
I carried that experience in the back of my mind some 25 years and then one day I asked my wife if she would like for us to start going to church, she replied, “Yes, I thought you would never ask”. We both started going to Eastside Baptist in Rusk, TX where we were warmly welcomed and in a short while we both moved our memberships there.
But I still felt that I needed to do something, but was filled with confusion and anxiety wondering what to do even though on several other occasions I felt the presence and urging of the Holy Spirit.
Then sometime later, lo and behold, a man walked the aisle with a story similar to mine apparently confessing his pent up belief and faith in Jesus Christ and wanting to be baptized which he was a few days later.
I then realized what I had seen was what I needed to do; so at the next service where I felt that urge I walked down the aisle, told the basics of this story and was baptized a few days later.
Now, this does not mean that I or other saved Christians would never sin again; we sin and fall short of the glory of God every day, but the work of Jesus Christ on the cross was and is sufficient for all past, present and future sins of a saved believer.
1 JOHN 1:8 “If we say that we have no sin we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”
At one time I struggled about the idea that many propose that the Bible can’t be proven as “cold hard fact”. A lady friend, church member cleared that up for me with this remark, “The Bible and salvation are about FAITH; if they were about cold hard fact, there would be no room or reason for faith.”
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 In the past 10-12 years I have spent considerable time reading and studying the Bible and have reached the following conclusions: When a child is born he/she is recorded in God's Book of Life as per Exodus 32:31&32.
31 "So Moses went back to the LORD and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold.
32 Yet now, please forgive their sin-but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.”
Even so, the child has a one-way ticket to hell EXCEPT for two circumstances as below:
  1. The child/person dies before achieving the knowledge of accountability.
  2. At some age and ONLY at the urging/prompting of the Holy Spirit the person accepts and confesses Jesus Christ as personal Savior at which time his/her name is recorded in the Lamb’s Book of Life and can never be blotted out.
    REV. 3:5 "He who overcomes shall be clothed in white garments and I will not blot out his name from the Book of Life; but I will confess his name before My Father and before His angels.
    REV. Chapter 13 speaks of the “beast” which is symbolic of the “antichrist” and significant is verse 8.
    REV. 13:8 “All who dwell upon the earth will worship him, whose names are not written in the Book of Life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.” This verse indicates that people’s names are entered in the Lambs Book during their life and when would be a more logical time than at the time they accept Jesus Christ.
    REV. 21:27 “But there shall by no means enter it anything that defiles or causes an abomination or a lie, but only those who are written in the Lamb’s Book of Life.”
    Note; if the person dies after achieving accountability and before accepting/confessing Jesus Christ; the name is blotted from God’s Book of Life.
    REV. 20:15 “And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.”
    God’s plan of salvation for mankind was preordained perhaps “forever ago” the plan calling for a '“Perfect Sacrifice” for the redemption of sin with the sacrifice being his only Son, namely Jesus Christ born sin free of the Virgin Mary. (Edited to remove e-mail address)
 
Hi Ellis and welcome! It gives me joy to hear someone express love for Scripture! 🙂 Are you thinking of joining the Catholic Church?
 
Marco>>"“Hi Ellis and welcome! It gives me joy to hear someone express love for Scripture! Are you thinking of joining the Catholic Church?”"
Thanks very much Marco and say, you have quite a reputation ;-).
No, I am not presently thinking about changing the place where I meet with other saints to worship.
My only reason for writing the story was to use it as a witnessing tool to anyone who does not fit in the salvation guidelines noted in the story. And there’s jillions of people that do not fit these guidelines. I had to shorten the story to 6000 characters and the following was left out.
And by the way, the person can’t just roll out of bed at 9:00 AM Sunday morning and say, “I think I’ll just run by the Church a few minutes and get saved”, it just doesn’t really work that way.
God’s plan of salvation for mankind was preordained perhaps “forever ago”, the plan calling for a '“Perfect Sacrifice” for the redemption of sin with the sacrifice being his only Son, namely Jesus Christ born sin free of the Virgin Mary.
As you know we are being bombarded by the media and others about the shortcomings of “Evangelical” Christians. If a person is a Christian he at least occasionally reads the Bible and more than likely is aware of what is generally known as “The Great Commission” as it relates to this verse and other similar verses.
Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
The idea of “The Great Commission” is the root cause of all Christian evangelism and all Christians are, or at least should be, aware of the obligation these verses apply as well as the actual urging of the Holy Spirit to comply. Using the word “evangelical” to describe the word “Christian” is totally superfluous. In other words, it isn’t needed. Personally, I spend considerable time as a Christian, witnessing to other people and the following verse boosts me up.
MARK 8:38 “Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”
If anyone reading this would like to learn more about God’s plan of salvation; my suggestion is read the Bible and I suggest the New King James Version, Personal Study with center column references and footnotes at the bottom of the page. Mine is a Nelson 165.
And by the way, if a person does not believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God please consider what ISAIAH wrote some 2700 years ago: ISAIAH 40:22 “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers”. How else could ISAIAH have possibly known the earth was and is round unless inspired by God. And is it just coincidence that the word “circle” appears nowhere else in the Bible. Reading God’s plan of salvation and eternal life is very exciting; God Bless and good reading and remember, a person does not get to heaven simply for being “good” and does not go to hell simply for being a sinner.
 
Thanks very much Marco and say, you have quite a reputation ;-).
No, I am not presently thinking about changing the place where I meet with other saints to worship.
Ok well enjoy your stay here! And I did not know I had “quite a reputation”!
 
Marco> ""Ok well enjoy your stay here! And I did not know I had “quite a reputation”!

Thanks, marco.
 
Marco>>"“Hi Ellis and welcome! It gives me joy to hear someone express love for Scripture! Are you thinking of joining the Catholic Church?”"
Thanks very much Marco and say, you have quite a reputation ;-).
No, I am not presently thinking about changing the place where I meet with other saints to worship.
My only reason for writing the story was to use it as a witnessing tool to anyone who does not fit in the salvation guidelines noted in the story. And there’s jillions of people that do not fit these guidelines. I had to shorten the story to 6000 characters and the following was left out.
And by the way, the person can’t just roll out of bed at 9:00 AM Sunday morning and say, “I think I’ll just run by the Church a few minutes and get saved”, it just doesn’t really work that way.
God’s plan of salvation for mankind was preordained perhaps “forever ago”, the plan calling for a '“Perfect Sacrifice” for the redemption of sin with the sacrifice being his only Son, namely Jesus Christ born sin free of the Virgin Mary.
As you know we are being bombarded by the media and others about the shortcomings of “Evangelical” Christians. If a person is a Christian he at least occasionally reads the Bible and more than likely is aware of what is generally known as “The Great Commission” as it relates to this verse and other similar verses.
Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
The idea of “The Great Commission” is the root cause of all Christian evangelism and all Christians are, or at least should be, aware of the obligation these verses apply as well as the actual urging of the Holy Spirit to comply. Using the word “evangelical” to describe the word “Christian” is totally superfluous. In other words, it isn’t needed. Personally, I spend considerable time as a Christian, witnessing to other people and the following verse boosts me up.
MARK 8:38 “Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”
If anyone reading this would like to learn more about God’s plan of salvation; my suggestion is read the Bible and I suggest the New King James Version, Personal Study with center column references and footnotes at the bottom of the page. Mine is a Nelson 165.
And by the way, if a person does not believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God please consider what ISAIAH wrote some 2700 years ago: ISAIAH 40:22 “It is He who sits above the circle of the earth and its inhabitants are like grasshoppers”. How else could ISAIAH have possibly known the earth was and is round unless inspired by God. And is it just coincidence that the word “circle” appears nowhere else in the Bible. Reading God’s plan of salvation and eternal life is very exciting; God Bless and good reading and remember, a person does not get to heaven simply for being “good” and does not go to hell simply for being a sinner.
How do you interpret these scriptures in your current church?

Matthew 18

17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Luke 10
16"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

John 20
21Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

1 Timothy 3
15if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

2 Thes 2
15So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.

Matthew 16

17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
 
CR>>"“How do you interpret these scriptures in your current church?”"

Just as written and as they might apply to other verses of similar subject matter.

How do you interpret the verses of my testimony?
 
ellisbrasher

Welcome to the forums.

I have to admit that I did not read your whole testimony (I apologize if this is rude since you took the time to write it up for us). I have a short attention span and posts need to be short and sweet for me to follow along 😊 😃

But it sounded interesting so I will try to read it in sections.

Question; what brought you to a Catholic forum to share this story?

God bless you.
 
CR>>"“How do you interpret these scriptures in your current church?”"

Just as written and as they might apply to other verses of similar subject matter.

How do you interpret the verses of my testimony?
I don’t generally try to interpret revelations.

With regard to the passage from John, I agree with your interpretation. We are all sinners in need of God’s grace and forgiveness.

God is merciful, however, and he calls to each of us.

I believe his greatest gift for helping us to follow Jesus is his Church.

The verses I posted seem to confirm this understanding.

Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?
 
RomanCatholic"""But it sounded interesting so I will try to read it in sections.

Question; what brought you to a Catholic forum to share this story? “”"

Basically the following; first off, I believe there will be people in Heaven from all walks of life, but I also believe there are many in all walks AND denominations that call themselves christians that do not fit the items in my story such as a person is ONLY saved at the urging of the Holy Spirit. So I post it anywhere that it could possibly do good.
As you know we are being bombarded by the media and others about the shortcomings of “Evangelical” Christians. If a person is a Christian he at least occasionally reads the Bible and more than likely is aware of what is generally known as “The Great Commission” as it relates to this verse and other similar verses.
Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
The idea of “The Great Commission” is the root cause of all Christian evangelism and all Christians are, or at least should be, aware of the obligation these verses apply as well as the actual urging of the Holy Spirit to comply. Using the word “evangelical” to describe the word “Christian” is totally superfluous. In other words, it isn’t needed.
 
CHESTERONRULES>>>"“Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?”""

I believe The Holy Bible is first and foremost and generally a church building is where the saints meet to worship and learn.
 
RomanCatholic"""But it sounded interesting so I will try to read it in sections.

Question; what brought you to a Catholic forum to share this story? “”"

Basically the following; first off, I believe there will be people in Heaven from all walks of life, but I also believe there are many in all walks AND denominations that call themselves christians that do not fit the items in my story such as a person is ONLY saved at the urging of the Holy Spirit. So I post it anywhere that it could possibly do good.
As you know we are being bombarded by the media and others about the shortcomings of “Evangelical” Christians. If a person is a Christian he at least occasionally reads the Bible and more than likely is aware of what is generally known as “The Great Commission” as it relates to this verse and other similar verses.
Matthew 28:19 “Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,”
The idea of “The Great Commission” is the root cause of all Christian evangelism and all Christians are, or at least should be, aware of the obligation these verses apply as well as the actual urging of the Holy Spirit to comply. Using the word “evangelical” to describe the word “Christian” is totally superfluous. In other words, it isn’t needed.
I think sometimes the use of the term ‘Evangelical Christian’ is appropriate. I have and do evangelize and I am a Christian, however, I do not consider myself an ‘evangelical Christian’.

By the way I share a similar story as yours, however mine did not carry on as long as yours did. I was lost in my sins during my teenage and into my college years. I was saved by the Grace of God in a college setting that was the pit of liberalism and humanism. As soon as I was convinced of my sins and my need of God, I was immediately repentant and led by the Holy Spirit into His Church.

God bless
 
CHESTERONRULES>>>"“Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?”""

I believe The Holy Bible is first and foremost and generally a church building is where the saints meet to worship and learn.
ellisbrasher,

Please consider what the Scriptures have to say about this:
if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth. 1 Tim 3:15
God bless you
 
CHESTERONRULES>>>"“Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?”""

I believe The Holy Bible is first and foremost and generally a church building is where the saints meet to worship and learn.
Hi Ellis, welcome to the forums. If the bible is first and foremost in otherwords “the first and foremost way of knowing any revealed truth” What truth would the early Christians of had before the bible was cannonized. Even after the bible was canaonized how did illeterate people (I’m susre 90% of the population, only a quess). What did they do before the bible or before litereacy rate were much greater.

Peace!👍
 
Prodigal-Sun>>’"" What did they do before the bible or before litereacy rate were much greater."""

I would speculate it would have been word of mouth.
 
CHESTERONRULES>>>"“Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?”""

I believe The Holy Bible is first and foremost and generally a church building is where the saints meet to worship and learn.
That’s what I thought you might say, which is why I posted these verses:

Matthew 18

17If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Luke 10
16"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me."

John 20
21Again Jesus said, “Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.” 22And with that he breathed on them and said, “Receive the Holy Spirit. 23If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.”

1 Timothy 3
15if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and foundation of the truth.

2 Thes 2
15So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the teachings we passed on to you, whether by word of mouth or by letter.
Matthew 16

17Jesus replied, “Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven. 18And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. 19I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”
 
Hi Ellis
My testimony is similuler to yours. Isn’t being a Baptist great !
 
Prodigal-Sun>>’"" What did they do before the bible or before litereacy rate were much greater."""

I would speculate it would have been word of mouth.
welcome ellis. i’m so happy for you that the Holy Spirit has touched your heart. knowing the Lord and having a relationship with him is a step closer to holiness. i am re-reading the book by Patrick Madrid, “Surprised by Truth” and i’m truly inspired by the many testimonies of people touched by the Holy Spirit who led them to the Truth. btw, your answer is correct that before the canonization of the Holy Bible, teachings were purely by word of mouth. the Bible was compiled sometime in 4 a.d. when the pope convened the bishops (council of hippo) to sift through many early writings and determine which truly were sacred and inspired writings under the guidance of the Holy Spirit. many so called “gospels” did not make it, like the gospel of thomas, the shepherd, etc. many christians don’t realize this but the whole christiandom owe the Bible to the Catholic Church. 🙂
God bless.
 
Originally Posted by ellisbrasher View Post
CHESTERONRULES>>>"“Do you agree that the church is the pillar and foundation of truth?”""

I believe The Holy Bible is first and foremost and generally a church building is where the saints meet to worship and learn.

The you are disagreeing with the Bible itself, Ellis Brasher.
 
Hi Ellis and I would like to welcome you also to the Catholic Forums. I read your testimony and am glad you came to Christ. At the end of your testimony you stated that a person must accept Jesus Christ or his name would be blotted out of the book of life. So, what happens to an adult (say in the Amazon) who dies and has never even heard of Jesus?
 
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