I’m against people who object to my argument and then provide proofs that support me.
You’re quite happy to do this; it’s part of the illogic of Islam - to hold mutually exclusive points at once.
Illogical of Islam…this is the key, you claiming to be knowledgeable of Islam, so use reason and commonsense as so frequently noted in the Quran.
Let’s be honest with each other and answer me these, Do you Like Islam…or Muslims or do you think Islam is a sort of Bogus faith, if in fact you answer “Yes” to these questions then the whole discussion is pointles, why because you ahve already formed a strong opnion to justify your feelings and strenghting your arguement, so let’s move on, if not read on
Remember, it’s what you are claiming not necessarily what it’s, it’s very likely that you could be illogical unless you are so immensely knowledgeable which I doubt is the case.
You objected to me saying you’re allowed to lie in Islam, then you gave examples where this is okay.
I object to the nature, reason, end game, benefit of the lie not whether it’s allowed or not and again under what circumstances, reasons, to who’s benefits…use common sense…in addition, your quoted a Hadith and I was trying to inform you about the nature of hadiths, their authenticity, etc.
Let me kindly disagree with you, I object to how you presented the fact not where these facts are already there, you basically collecting what you think where shortcomings of Islam without giving enough explanations, that is what I object.
You objected to me saying Apostates are killed, then you said that they are.
Again, we are not talking about the same thing, your point is this, Islam is bad because this what it does or the teachs “no compulsion in religion” is not true because this is how Islam deals with people who leave Islam and I was not dis-proofing the fact Islam deals with Apostates but how and under what part of the Fiqh.
You challenged me to provide evidences. I did so. You still say that I’m only offering my opinion -without addressing where in fact you think I’m wrong. In short, you’re just argumentative; arguing for arguments sake.
You have provided an outstanding arguments but no evidence of knowledge, again I ask you how does Islam deals with apostates, please give clear evidence and references from The Quran, The Fiqh, The Hadiths and from School of Thoughts.
I will safe you the hustle and time, you will not because you don’t know it and please don’t refer to those Anti-Isalmic sites, they do the best of cherry pickings and will be any use to neither of us or the folks who are reading this thread.
Well, I’m not Catholic. I’ve already told you this
Given you don’t even note where I say I’m not Catholic, then yes, you’re probably not going to change your mind - let alone address anything I say
Sorry, my mistake, I thought you were but then that was a mistake, I forget believe or not, you can remind me if you don’t mind.
Yes, but that just becomes an insinuation itself, given you’ve not shown where it is you think I’m wrong.
Wrong, what I said and repeatedly saying is that you point out something you would like to believe is wrong with Islam without actually explaining it or giving it’s contacts, etc.
You also have to realise that I’m not the only one reading your posts. If you can’t even begin to form ANY argument in response then you’re just confirming that in Islam, logic has no place.
My counter arguments is simple, you hardly know much about islam because if you did we would be having this discussion, it’s not fair to pick up what you like to paint as negative and then stop short of explaining why, How, etc, etc.
This is what lots folks who don’t like Islam or don’t want understand it do…
My solution, don’t cut and past from some ill informed sources…let it be or and unless you are really interested then let’s go on point to point but no cherry picking. the end.
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