My wife just told me cheated on me.

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You’re going to have to get a grip on reality. So you’re wife couldn’t resist temptation well that’s the world we live in. By carrying on blaming God just reveals chinks in your armor that demons will exploit.

If you think things are bad now the experience of others has shown they can get a lot worse if you don’t put this behind you. Before it’s too late for your marriage you better drop all discussion about this and start reciting a daily rosary.

Now get a hold of yourself and take stock of all the good things in your life. Maybe that will give you some perspective on how small your wife’s transgression was.
 
First: I know how you feel.

Prepare for the worst and pray for the best.

She is going to have to show constant signs of remorse. Work out new boundaries for her. If she loves you and wants this to work out she will accept the boundaries you put up to save the marriage. SHE MUST BREAK OFF CONTACT WITH THE OTHER MAN. This is a must for your healing.

Talk to friends and family who will support you without going too far in attack her.

Pray. Always pray.

Go to marriage counseling together as well as have her go to counseling herself. Something is wrong with her to do that. You need to find out what. I strongly recommend Retrovauille as well.

Remember that her act of infidelity is not your fault!

Vent off steam with friends like working out together. Never get aggressive with your wife. Sometimes you may want to hit her or yell in her face BUT DON’T! Be the better person. If you never cheated on her you have the advantage. Keep it that way.

This part will suck: see if she is pregnant. That is a whole other can of worms if she is.

If she works with you and does everything you need then reconciliation is possible. If she keeps up the affair or gives you flak for not trusting her then a divorce and possible an annulment (depending on the circumstances) are in order. The Church recognizes wronged parties and divorce is allowed to protect you (remarriage is not unless via an annulment).

I’ll be praying for you, buddy. Contact me if you need any private advice.
 
I totally understand wanting to drink. But you know that it will not help - you may go numb while you are drinking but after the effects wear off, your feelings and the reality will still be there to deal with. I have turned to alcohol to deal with pain in my own marriage and all it did was give me another problem to have to address before I even face what is really going on. If you need someone to talk to, PM me. I just quit drinking this past March, and all I do is make the decision not to drink TODAY. I tell myself “not now,” or “not today,” and my brain can accept that as not scary - I might be able to drink tomorrow. I don’t consider myself an alcoholic but that is the way alcoholics have to think, so maybe I am. I only know that I have used alcohol as a crutch to numb my emotions, and it doesn’t fix anything. You damage yourself and the other person goes on doing whatever they were doing.

Your wife has problems. You already know that. She needs help to deal with all that junk in her past. I don’t know if you will be able to stay with her, don’t decide that at this point. The trust is a huge issue. Work on it in counseling. And keep seeing your priest.
 
You’re going to have to get a grip on reality. So you’re wife couldn’t resist temptation well that’s the world we live in. By carrying on blaming God just reveals chinks in your armor that demons will exploit.

If you think things are bad now the experience of others has shown they can get a lot worse if you don’t put this behind you. Before it’s too late for your marriage you better drop all discussion about this and start reciting a daily rosary.

Now get a hold of yourself and take stock of all the good things in your life. Maybe that will give you some perspective on how small your wife’s transgression was.
It was NOT a small transgression by any stretch. However, if the wife is remorseful, the marriage may be saved.

OP, I will pray for you and your wife.
 
Hello, distraughtlost,

It grieves me to see what you’re going through. I’ve only ever been betrayed by girlfriends at most and never by sleeping with someone else, which was already painful, so I don’t even have a full picture of what you must be going through. Which is, at any rate, horrible and it is with a lot of satisfaction that I see some of our posters insisting that your feelings are legitimate. In my view, it should be even more stressed that you’re not the offender there (the distinction is sometimes blurred when we really want to have compassion on whomever did the wrong thing, to the point of turning it upside down and ultimately “blaming the victim”).

Those feelings won’t go away as quickly as they came. They are not unnatural, nor are they there without a reason. In fact, I believe few people would be able to appreciate forgiveness (as opposed to thinking the forgiver doesn’t care or was not hurt) if they were just hugged and told it’s okay. Few people would be able to forgive like that and, of them, many would probably be, in fact, failing to understand forgiveness or failing to cover the whole scope of the matter with their imagination. After all, this is not about saying “it’s okay” and then bottling in yourself sensations of being betrayed as they keep coming later. You must process the whole thing properly (although I won’t pretend to know what processing it properly means in this case since I’m not a therapist and have not been in a situation like that).

As for what pertains to the wife and her suffering, I’m sure it’s great and it’s great that her betrayed husband is so willing to forgive and compassionate with her but we as posters, responding to his situation and his call for advice and emotional support, shouldn’t be focusing primarily on the wife as the sufferer here or principal victim. There needs to be some reason and some cool. If we see a child beaten by another child, we don’t go on about how terribly suffering must be the other child that hit him, suffering from what caused all that aggression (though we may be willing to approach the matter from that angle) and from the feelings of guilt that possibly came afterward. We hug that beaten child.

Back to the opening poster. Attention, which seems to be the temptation here, is a temptation many people face in relationships. It’s a tried and true pitfall for young women (and not only young) (and I’m sure men aren’t free of the problem either). Therefore I’d try to remember that your wife may be particularly needing it from you, which is a normal thing because not everybody has the same needs, some people need more attention, others need more space.

I know how it hurts that a woman would need validation from the outside, although in my case it’s only been girlfriends or not even there. Must be even more hurtful in your case. I don’t know how it works but I’m perfectly sure that a competent therapist (or basically someone who knows psychology) knows a lot about that, since it’s not an unexamined matter. Some therapy could help and I believe therapy is most probably needed. In some cases people need validation from more than one source because of their insecurities or whatever other problems they have, so if that’s the case, then you shouldn’t worry that you’re not delivering her the validation she needs. If she has that kind of problem, then you can be a perfect husband and she will still have those problems.

I also know how it feels to feel ditched aside for someone random who showed only a fraction of the effort. It’s a horrible thing. On the other hand, if your wife has some problems that can be described as a real disorder, with a concrete cause and a remedy, then it’s not how she consciously thinks of you. As you say, even some hours before the event, she was going on about how much she loved you (even though she mentioned cheating and it might have been a result of whatever mental conflicts she might have been having). Insecurities and unresolved traumas from the past can indeed push women to the point they fall for the simplest (and dumbest) of pickup lines and the most “interesting” choices of a partner (in life or in crime). If only they knew. But, fortunately, they typically learn from experience.

As for the stories she told you that were inconsistent with the truth, and for bragging and laughing about it with friends, she needs to sort that out. Maybe after this event, she will see that there’s no glory in those tales and that the humiliating parts are nothing to laugh at. Again, the most I can say I’ve experienced is an inconsistent girlfriend, but I can relate, at least remotely, and it sucks to see you go through that. I hope your wife learns from it.
When this information came out, bit by bit, I became more and more depressed. I stopped going to Mass and was angry that God wasn’t helping with my pain. I hated God for that and cursed his name everytime I had those depressing thoughts. We went to non Christian counseling and through the course of it my wife told me the entire truth. I know many of you may think I didn’t need to know, that it seems like I was judging her for her past but I wasn’t. It wasn’t a matter of “I need to know everything” it was that I was finding this stuff out in some of the most humiliating ways possible.
I know it’s different when somebody’s been lying to you, it’s different from when you’re merely curious about the matter itself. I’m sorry to hear about your rift with God but glad to hear how it was repaired later, with help from your wife (which gives her some credit, can help you see her as someone close to you, who has done something good for you; hypothetically, if she had helped you fix a rift with God, that may have been more good than whatever evil adultery caused—someone who helps you fix a rift with God helps you save your soul).
 
My wife quit her job. She also changed her phone number and cut ties with her friends at work. She said she wants to rebuild trust, that she doesn’t have to work and that she wants to be open and not hide her communications with friends. Mostly i find this reassuring but a small part of me is very scared she is going to resent all of these changes and leave me.
I wouldn’t neglect that feeling. I’d ask the therapist how to avoid those kind of feelings awakening in your wife.
I am not drinking. I want to. I want to really badly. I just want to feel numb. But I don’t think I could stop if I started right now. And I know alcohol and depression don’t mix very well.
Don’t. You do very well to stay away from alcohol in that kind of circumstance.
 
You’re going to have to get a grip on reality. So you’re wife couldn’t resist temptation well that’s the world we live in. By carrying on blaming God just reveals chinks in your armor that demons will exploit.

If you think things are bad now the experience of others has shown they can get a lot worse if you don’t put this behind you. Before it’s too late for your marriage you better drop all discussion about this and start reciting a daily rosary.

Now get a hold of yourself and take stock of all the good things in your life. Maybe that will give you some perspective on how small your wife’s transgression was.
The transgression was not small. You put a lot of emphasis on a grip on reality. But we can’t achieve a solid grip of reality by trying to alter our minds to perceive big transgressions as small ones to make ourselves into more forgiving people. On the other hand, no transgression is comparable to the mercy of God, who also helps those who forgive.

I’m also not sure if not discussing the matter would help. Certainly, beating the subject to death, repeating it over and over and trying to analyse things while not being emotionally stable (due to the pain), would hurt. On the other hand, bottling it all inside and pretending it doesn’t exist would also.

Generally the problem must be dealt with rather than wished away. Where those problems exceed the knowledge and skills of normal people like we are, on the mortal side, we have science to help us and on the supernatural side, we have God, who is even more powerful. But we can’t pretend the problem doesn’t exist. I’ve tried that, it doesn’t work. Sooner or later stuff blows up in your face. It can actually even lead to stupid mistakes such as cheating (e.g. by those who do so on a fit of revenge or insecurity or long-forgotten feelings of being appreciated). In fact, I suspect the OP’s wife might have fallen victim of bottled up problems that weren’t discussed.
 
If she works with you and does everything you need then reconciliation is possible. If she keeps up the affair or gives you flak for not trusting her then a divorce and possible an annulment (depending on the circumstances) are in order. The Church recognizes wronged parties and divorce is allowed to protect you (remarriage is not unless via an annulment).
Divorce to protect you is, say, divorce to cut off the possibility of being forced to pay a gambler’s debts or of being abused by a violent spouse, or having children molested by a paedophile spouse. But in my opinion emotional relief coming from cutting ties in the eyes of the state with a non-habitual cheater would not qualify as “protecting oneself”. This because, knowing that we cannot terminate a marriage contracted in front of God, we shouldn’t pretend like we can do so by terminating the marriage contracted in front of the civil authorities and recognised by the state. The Catechism (c. 2383) teaches that it is only tolerable if it remains the only way of protecting certain legal rights (e.g. inheritance, protection of children).
 
I am not drinking. I want to. I want to really badly. I just want to feel numb. But I don’t think I could stop if I started right now. And I know alcohol and depression don’t mix very well.
You are very right. Alcohol is about the worst self-medication for sadness, anger, or depression that there is. Get some counselling; it will help you to talk these things over (and over and over and over and over) with someone whose eyes you can see. Hang out with people you love, too, even if you never talk about this with them. Give and receive love and friendship, the healthy kind instead of the deadly kind your wife chose, and do it where it is easy and natural, too, and not just with each other. You need some mutual care that is not as much work as that will be.

I think what people mean by having had a bout with infidelity ultimately making their marriages better is that it forced an opportunity in which self-esteem issues (in this case, both your wife’s and yours) communication issues, and other profound structural problems in the relationship may have “hit bottom”. You realize that if you’re going to survive at all, you will be forced to address the issues in a thorough and constructive manner.

Those issues, whatever they are, are a rot in the foundation of your marriage. It would have been better to have had the rot fixed without being forced into it by structural collapse, but the truth is that many of us don’t want to commit ourselves to the upheaval and expenditure required for such a fix until we are literally forced to either fix the problem or abandon the structure. Then, when it is fixed, the people involved say, “Wow, this is better than ever, we had no idea how out of whack the walls and the floors had gotten, all the doors will actually shut correctly now, we should have had the foundation done years ago.”

In other words, infidelity doesn’t fix marriages. It doesn’t make them better. It wrecks them, makes them uninhabitable. It does force issues, and it is the work of facing those issues that makes things better. You have a chance to have the best marriage you’ve ever had, but it will because you two decide to go back to square one, build it sound this time, and then keep up with the maintenance, so this won’t happen again.
 
You have a lot of work to do, but look at the Cross and remember: the message of the Cross isn’t that bad things never happen to those who are faithful. The message of the Cross is that for those who are faithful, God can take the worst thing in the world and transform it into the best thing in the world. What it takes is to be willing to hang in there and believe that if you do your part and accept the cup that comes, if you do not let despair tempt you, God will do the heavy lifting and God will give you the victory. That is true no matter what your wife has done, or what she does tomorrow, either.

Your whole post is excellent advice but this last part is absolutely beautiful!!👍
 
Hi dear,
thank you for the information about your past life with your wife. She needs a good psychologist to address her self steem problems indeed. You should really ask her that if she really loves you and really wants to make your marriage work, she must go to a psychologist. It is not right now and later on that you become the victim of her infidelities. Keep yourself firm about that issue and also worthy in her eyes and in your eyes, be determinant about getting psychotherapy and be also strong enough to tell her that this would be the first and last time you forgive this great offense. That if there is any issue that has not been satisfied in your marriage to let you know frankly so that both of you can work it out.
Do not get into alcohol dear, it will ruin you, your wife, your life, your work, everything. These are momentary and false escapes to avoid facing reality. That is not the case here, you must face reality and do your work in order that your marriage becomes more stable. Besides the important points above mentioned, try to go out both of you with married couples, stable couples who are not also prone to cheating. Pray, do not get angry at God, because he is not the one who made her cheat on you, but your wife. Have faith, and involve her also in improving the spiritual side that both of you have, to get higher in our faith make us less prone to sin and to be more worthy of God. Do not worry about that your post is “all over the place”, we do not know each other personally, so, we just come here to listen to people, unknown to us, but with the best intention to help each other in our times of weakness. I will keep you in my prayers, dear. And come here to this place everytime you want to vent out your sadness.
May God be always with you.
 
Life is more than drinks and fun. We are meant to be in this world to do more worthy things than that. Try to be more involved in your parish. Both of you can find good fellows there who might live a more stable life and who have better awareness about what a good married life is all about. Be compassionate towards her and towards yourself. We do not need riches in order to be happy, we need the richness that a good spiritual life lead us and the richness of a stable, healthy marriage. Have both the pleasure of giving more to the people around you, help your parish, do good things for a good cause. It is more rewarding to give than to take. Human have so many talents and so many things that can be given to improve the quality of the world we are living today. By giving we receive. Even if it does not seem so, sooner or later, we do receive our blessings.
 
My wife and I went to morning Mass and meet with the priest afterwards, went to confession and talked with him. He is going to find an appropriate counselor and he also said that just a week ago a couple told him that if any married couple was contemplating divorce because of infidelity to have them contact them…



…I am not drinking. I want to. I want to really badly. I just want to feel numb. But I don’t think I could stop if I started right now. And I know alcohol and depression don’t mix very well.
I am so sorry you are going through this. I feel for you and it’s really a horrible thing.

Your feelings are legitimate, normal, natural. Please be merciful with yourself and allow yourself to feel whatever you feel. You have been hurt in a very real way. Your emotions are symptomatic of the emotional trauma. Your healing is a process and you will heal at the rate you are capable of healing and your emotions will do what they will in the process. The process of healing can’t be rushed, nor should it be.

I read both your posts and I can’t tell if you’ve expressed your feelings to your wife. Sorry if I missed it. I think it’s important that she is very very clear on the damage she has done to you and the relationship. She sounds quite young. Going out drinking with friends without the spouse is never a good idea. Frankly, and I don’t mean to sound harsh but it may come across harshly, it sounds to me like this crush was longer than a week or two. She already indicated a certain level of planning; I will be honest to say that I don’t believe it cropped as quickly as she claimed. I have no basis for my assertion here, except seeing this sort of thing with friends several times.

I wish I had more to offer, because I know you are hurting. I will remember you in my prayers this evening.
 
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distraughtlost:
Your priest said 6 months I say one day, one hour, one minute, one second. Live thre present for it is a everchanging situation.

The past does not exist. It is gone.
The future is yet to come. It does not exist. It will come if it will.
Only the present exists.
S.Augustin said that if you do not ask me what the time is, I know. If you ask me, I just do not know.
The present is a fine line which moves forward between a past that does not exist already and a future that does not exist, yet.

Brother, that is all we have: the present. And if your present is hard, let’s not put more burdens on your shoulders.

Things are changeing every second and I notice a change of tones from last post.

As I said: better said than done: if my post is uselees, just throw it to the bin.
But I am going to talk. As the couple you mentioned, I would like to work with couples thinking on divorce. As i came from a completely broken family…

What I see here is:

  1. *]a woman who has not “digested” her sexual past. This past comes to haunt her. I mean, past passions are past passions we cannot bring them along with us. Someone who could help her to overcome this would be good.
    *]a woman with insecurities problems. Again. this is more than enough for adultery. one searches in adultery some security. but adulltery does not provide. that insecurity cannot be solve by the husband being sensitive to it. it must be solve so that the husband wont need to treat her as he had penty of wounds on her soul. How? Studying, Counselling, Reflection on why those insecurites, therapy to make the wife stronger and stronger and stronger so that she may be as strong as a mountain: no one may move her from where she stays.
    *]a husband insecure for his virginity on marriage, what is the trouble?, but he is insecure. that is a society problem, to have multiple partner is “macho man”, to be a virgin is “sissy”. that is a society problem not yours.
    *]you have got a deep wound¨, or you broke your leg. You know the wound will heal, but you care not about the future when it will heal, for it hurts now. The soul is like the body: it takes time to go through trauma, wounds and so one. That is why thinking on the present is important: to treat the wound, to be careful not to touch it too much, to see was caused it, to mend the levies, to think strategies 1,2,3,4 so that the levies are mended and wont break again. Eventually it will heal. It will be a scar that remembers what happened but does not hurt anymore. But, up to now, let’s care for the present.
    *]last but nor least, I see a couple fighting on rolling waters and that makes me glad, for in calm waters everybody swims. you love each other,you are strugling with the deepest of hurts and you are alive.

    GBY
 
You are in my mind, and yesterday I was walking back home and i thought on you and siddenly came to my mind another couple and I said I must ell you this.

It is terrible to say this, but I would say that your suffering (both) is a sign of your love. If you did not love, you would not suffer. One suffer with the loved ones.

And then came into my mind a friend of mine (I have not seen for years but all my friends reaim friends) who said to me that his agreement with his wife, was like that: “You do whatever you want as long as you use condom”. Both agreed and both went by the rule.

Did they suffer? No. It was in the books, it was on the contract and agreement.

This would not be for me. I would prefer suffer and mend ways, like you.
 
I am so sorry you are going through this. I feel for you and it’s really a horrible thing.

Your feelings are legitimate, normal, natural. Please be merciful with yourself and allow yourself to feel whatever you feel. You have been hurt in a very real way. Your emotions are symptomatic of the emotional trauma. Your healing is a process and you will heal at the rate you are capable of healing and your emotions will do what they will in the process. The process of healing can’t be rushed, nor should it be.

I read both your posts and I can’t tell if you’ve expressed your feelings to your wife. Sorry if I missed it. I think it’s important that she is very very clear on the damage she has done to you and the relationship. She sounds quite young. Going out drinking with friends without the spouse is never a good idea. Frankly, and I don’t mean to sound harsh but it may come across harshly, it sounds to me like this crush was longer than a week or two. She already indicated a certain level of planning; I will be honest to say that I don’t believe it cropped as quickly as she claimed. I have no basis for my assertion here, except seeing this sort of thing with friends several times.
I’m not sure if I said it, but yes I have told her these things. She actually knows I’m posting here and has read these posts. And sadly, she really has only known him for a couple of weeks. In a way, it makes it feel so much worse for me that she could stray so quickly after nearly 8 years.
 
You are in my mind, and yesterday I was walking back home and i thought on you and siddenly came to my mind another couple and I said I must ell you this.

It is terrible to say this, but I would say that your suffering (both) is a sign of your love. If you did not love, you would not suffer. One suffer with the loved ones.

And then came into my mind a friend of mine (I have not seen for years but all my friends reaim friends) who said to me that his agreement with his wife, was like that: “You do whatever you want as long as you use condom”. Both agreed and both went by the rule.

Did they suffer? No. It was in the books, it was on the contract and agreement.

This would not be for me. I would prefer suffer and mend ways, like you.
I have also heard people say that humans were not meant to be monogamous. That is such a lie. If we weren’t meant to be monogamous, then why does this hurt so much?
 
I’m sad for you about what has happened, and will pray for you, and your wife.
 
I’m not sure if I said it, but yes I have told her these things. She actually knows I’m posting here and has read these posts. And sadly, she really has only known him for a couple of weeks. In a way, it makes it feel so much worse for me that she could stray so quickly after nearly 8 years.
OK thanks for writing again.

Again sorry if I you already mentioned this but I am wondering: are you getting counseling? I am thinking of you as an individual. Not to imply that there’s something wrong with you, but just to help you sort out your feelings over the next few months while you decide what you need to do with your marriage and future.
 
OK thanks for writing again.

Again sorry if I you already mentioned this but I am wondering: are you getting counseling? I am thinking of you as an individual. Not to imply that there’s something wrong with you, but just to help you sort out your feelings over the next few months while you decide what you need to do with your marriage and future.
We are going to see a marriage counselor and my wife said she wanted to see one for herself but I haven’t thought about it.I probably should.
 
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