Mystic Spirit Transfer: The Guf and Confession

[CatholicSpirit]

I am a bit of a mathematical thinker and some variables are missing.

What I do know:

• Through Confession, the Priest’s involvement changes the old spirit with a new spirit
• Jewish Religion is often Approved in Catholicism
• Jewish Mysticism states that spirits/souls come from a place in heaven called “the Guf.”
• Unless a Catholic is deceased, they cannot permanently enter the afterlife (no evidence)
• There are no exits in hell except that which comes from heaven which is/isn’t attained until death (some evidence)
• Purgatory is (specifically for/where) spirits/souls can be cleansed

So, what happens in the transfer process? Any sources please?

 

[Fauken]

Through Confession, the Priest’s involvement changes the old spirit with a new spirit

Could you elaborate on what you mean by this?

 

[guanophore]

Through Confession, the Priest’s involvement changes the old spirit with a new spirit

I don’t understand what you are saying here. Can you explain how you “know” this, and what it means? What makes you think this happens?

Jewish Religion is often Approved in Catholicism

This implies that it is sometimes not approved. What does "approved’ mean, exactly?

Jewish Mysticism states that spirits/souls come from a place in heaven called “the Guf.”

ARe you offering this premise toward some point you wish to make about Catholic Confession? If so, it is not related at all.

Unless a Catholic is deceased, they cannot permanently enter the afterlife (no evidence)

This would seem to be self evident, but I am sure you have a reason for saying it?

There are no exits in hell except that which comes from heaven which is/isn’t attained until death (some evidence)

Are you asserting that when someone dies, an “exit” is created in hell? This is not a Catholic concept.

So, what happens in the transfer process? Any sources please?

I think you would have to first establish that “transfer” of any kind occurs during Confession. This is not a Catholic concept.

 

[CatholicSpirit]

I don’t know that I can elaborate on that notation. It was expressed to me from a church source. Then, I questioned it to them, and they were completely certain that my spirit was replaced with a purer or newer version.

I, myself, consider Confession to turn ones sins red as scarlet and crimson, to pure white as snow… in modern explanation, behaving as a detergent or cleaning agent of sorts. But, through our redemption of admitting our faults through the holy sacrament of reconciliation, it is also quite mysterious when put in a context of replacing one with another.

Thus, I am seeking a tidbit of clarity and the other information which was retrieved made (to me) a more complete question which I had hoped would introduce thoughtful insight.

 

[veritatisstella]

So, what happens in the transfer process?

Transfer process? That’s a bit confusing. Do you mean to say that a person’s soul is transferred and replaced with a different clean soul during the process of confession? Such a kind of transfer of souls is not part of Catholic teaching. What the Church teaches on confession is that it cleanses and makes like new the one and only soul you ever have had or will have. Any language of “replacement” is purely metaphorical, like “turning over a new leaf” is.

 

[guanophore]

I don’t know that I can elaborate on that notation. It was expressed to me from a church source.

I don’t know what Church that was, but this is not Catholic.

Then, I questioned it to them, and they were completely certain that my spirit was replaced with a purer or newer version.

If it was someone claiming to be a Christian, then they do not understand what happens in confession, or they did not explain it well…

I, myself, consider Confession to turn ones sins red as scarlet and crimson, to pure white as snow… in modern explanation, behaving as a detergent or cleaning agent of sorts. But, through our redemption of admitting our faults through the holy sacrament of reconciliation,

This much is Catholic.

it is also quite mysterious when put in a context of replacing one with another.

This is not Catholic

Thus, I am seeking a tidbit of clarity and the other information which was retrieved made (to me) a more complete question which I had hoped would introduce thoughtful insight.

I have been on CAF for many years, and have never heard anything like this here, even from people who embrace heresies. It may be you will not find what you seek here.

 

[thistle]

It was expressed to me from a church source.

Please give us the source.