Myth of the Pre-Tribulational Rapture

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MaggieOH:
Go back and read my post about cosmology. I have already given you the answer that there is not a literal understanding in the sense that you want.

Everything that was supposed to happen at that time happened when the Temple of Jerusalem was destroyed. That does not mean that there will not be a Second Coming, which will be the Last Judgement.

Go do some further reading on the subject, because there are plenty of theologians who disagree with the interpretation that you give.

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If EVERTHING that was SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT THAT TIME HAPPENED, then on what day in what month in 70 A.D. did Jesus return in glory???. The text emphatically states:**“but immediately after the tribulation of those days…”**the Son of Man comes in glory. According to the text this was one of the things that was"supposed to happen." Now, please give me the month that event occurred.

I would ask this question even of those “theologians” who try to avoid the text as you do.
 
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Ozzie:
If EVERTHING that was SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT THAT TIME HAPPENED, then on what day in what month in 70 A.D. did Jesus return in glory???. The text emphatically states:**“but immediately after the tribulation of those days…”**the Son of Man comes in glory. According to the text this was one of the things that was"supposed to happen." Now, please give me the month that event occurred.

I would ask this question even of those “theologians” who try to avoid the text as you do.
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Immediate for you does not equate to immediate for God. For you, with your very narrow concept of time (I don’t mean you personally, I mean mankind in general) immediate means NOW. For God, who lives in all times and all places at once, 2000 years could be immediate. 5 seconds could be immediate. You seem to be trying to constrain God to the same set of physical rules tha we have to abide by. God is the creator of rules, and is therefore above them.
 
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Benadam:
Hi Dennis,
you’re right, and this struggle has been echoed at the beginning and ending of ages since the dawn of time.
An internal spiritual interpretation is the abomination is a lie, the desolation is that it’s complete in it’s replacement of it’s opposite Truth, and the Holy place is the sanctuary of God in man, his heart or conscience where the law of God is written and completely replaced by another law based on lies that we accept from our infancy and cling too in fear.
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The problem is you need to spiritualize the text in order for it to fit your own nonliteral interpretation. Rather than submit to the Word of God, you make it submit to you. That’s a form of dishonoring His Word. This goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden when the serpent said to Eve, "Indeed, has God said…? (Gen. 3:1). People are still challenging God’s Word today. Even those who claim to be Christians.
 
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Scott_Lafrance:
Immediate for you does not equate to immediate for God. For you, with your very narrow concept of time (I don’t mean you personally, I mean mankind in general) immediate means NOW. For God, who lives in all times and all places at once, 2000 years could be immediate. 5 seconds could be immediate. You seem to be trying to constrain God to the same set of physical rules tha we have to abide by. God is the creator of rules, and is therefore above them.
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Actually, it sounds like on this one you’re making the rules. What you say is true but it can’t apply here. What is said there in Matt. 24:29-30 falls in line with other Biblical, prophetic revelation. There’s no need at all to impose a prophetic gap.
 
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Ozzie:
If EVERTHING that was SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN AT THAT TIME HAPPENED, then on what day in what month in 70 A.D. did Jesus return in glory???. The text emphatically states:**“but immediately after the tribulation of those days…”**the Son of Man comes in glory. According to the text this was one of the things that was"supposed to happen." Now, please give me the month that event occurred.

I would ask this question even of those “theologians” who try to avoid the text as you do.
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You see Ozzie, its in two phases. One phase in when the “Abomination of Desolation” takes place and the other is when Jesus returns in glory.

Don’t you see this? One event in two phases, its clear to me.

Hey, if you can have two phases of the one Second Coming, we can have two phases here. Let’s play fair now.

Peace
 
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Ozzie:
The problem is you need to spiritualize the text in order for it to fit your own nonliteral interpretation. Rather than submit to the Word of God, you make it submit to you. That’s a form of dishonoring His Word. This goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden when the serpent said to Eve, "Indeed, has God said…? (Gen. 3:1). People are still challenging God’s Word today. Even those who claim to be Christians.
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Ozzie,
what you are calling spiritualizing I call internalizing the Word.
We all like to see ourselves on the right side when we identify ourselves within the stories. If we really open up to the Word the Holy Spirit helps us see our true selves and after we have been honest and identify ourselves as anti-christ then we are in the proper disposition to see anti-christ in the world. After all everything out there originates in human hearts right? My post didn’t spiritualize the Word it was an attempt to show the necessity of 'internalizing it.
 
Traditional Ang:
Benadam:

Part of the problem is the problem is that most of the people posting see Jerusalem and environs as they are TODAY, or even in the 1940’s, NOT as they were when the Roman Legions deforested them starting in 66 AD during the 1st Judean War.

What most people now see in the Judean countryside that hasn’t been reforested by the Israeli Jews is really the combined result of the Roman Deforestation campaign (preventing attacks on their rear and building seige machines) and the Roman Field salting campaign…

…Most of the really fertile areas in Israel required modern technology to reverse what the Romans did nearly 1950 years ago (and again 1870 years ago). That was definitely DESOLATION!

The Bart Kochba rebellion (132-135 AD) started because the Roman Emperor Hadrian sacrificed a PIG on the Temple Mount to the god Zeus (or was it Apollo)! That was definitely an ABOMINATION!

Blessings and peace.

In Christ, Michael
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I agree, so much is misinterpreted because of that projection onto the past. Teenagers do it to their parents. There is no doubt in my mind that the abomination occurred at the navel of the earth already. The abomination of desolation’s primary event was the Crucifiction of Christ wouldn’t you say? What happens afterwards amongst the nations is a response to the injustice that echos the sound of Christ’s Sacrifice.
 
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