Nabre 2010, non-Septuagent?!

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I have a Catholic Book Publishing Corperation, St. Joseph edition NABRE 2010 and my Old testament books:
Exodus 1:5
Genesis 46:26-27
Count 70 travelers to Egypt.
But it thought the setuagent counted the same number of people as Stephen did in:
Acts 7:14???
75 persons. I realize deut counts 70 in the Septuagent but Stephen quoted the Septuagent and/or Luke intended readers to know this. My question is, why is the number 70 in my bible? Is the Catholic Book Publishing Corperation, St. Joseph edition NABRE 2010 not a true catholic Bible?
 
Why would a numerical discrepancy in one passage (which could be due to any number of factors–typos, even) make a Bible “not a true Catholic Bible?” It’s not as though the Ten Commandments were altered or Jesus doesn’t rise from the dead in it.

-ACEGC
 
Why would a numerical discrepancy in one passage (which could be due to any number of factors–typos, even) make a Bible “not a true Catholic Bible?” It’s not as though the Ten Commandments were altered or Jesus doesn’t rise from the dead in it.

-ACEGC
I don’t believe it to be a typo. The Catholic OT is based on the greek Septuagent and thus has all 7 deuterocanonical books, unlike a Protestant OT that is based on a Hebrew collection of lesser books. In addition, the Septuagent is actually worded a little differently and is quoted about 300 times in the NT. I’m wondering why my NABRE OT is worded like the Hebrew bible.
 
I don’t believe it to be a typo. The Catholic OT is based on the greek Septuagent and thus has all 7 deuterocanonical books, unlike a Protestant OT that is based on a Hebrew collection of lesser books. In addition, the Septuagent is actually worded a little differently and is quoted about 300 times in the NT. I’m wondering why my NABRE OT is worded like the Hebrew bible.
Modern Christian Bibles (Catholic or Protestant) tend to translate the OT mainly from the Masoretic Hebrew text, although they will occasionally make use of other ancient versions - including the biblical texts foung among the Dead Sea Scrolls, the Syriac Peshitta or the Greek Septuagint - whenever there is an interesting textual variant or whenever (as is sometimes the case) the Hebrew is obscure or corrupt.

I think you’re confusing the text with the Scriptural canon: Protestants do use a canon almost similar to the Jewish Tanakh, while Catholics use a canon close, but not exactly similar, to the ‘standard’ LXX canon (at least as it is used in the Eastern Churches).
 
I have a Catholic Book Publishing Corperation, St. Joseph edition NABRE 2010 and my Old testament books:
Exodus 1:5
Genesis 46:26-27
Count 70 travelers to Egypt.
But it thought the setuagent counted the same number of people as Stephen did in:
Acts 7:14???
75 persons. I realize deut counts 70 in the Septuagent but Stephen quoted the Septuagent and/or Luke intended readers to know this. My question is, why is the number 70 in my bible? Is the Catholic Book Publishing Corperation, St. Joseph edition NABRE 2010 not a true catholic Bible?
To answer your question:

The Hebrew text of Exodus 1:5 does say that šiḇə‘îm nāfeš, “seventy souls” went down to Egypt: Genesis 46:8-27 gives us a list (Young’s Literal Translation):

And these [are] the names of the sons of Israel who are coming into Egypt: Jacob and his sons, Jacob’s first-born, Reuben.
And sons of Reuben: Hanoch, and Phallu, and Hezron, and Carmi.
And sons of Simeon: Jemuel, and Jamin, and Ohad, and Jachin, and Zohar, and Shaul son of the Canaanitess.
And sons of Levi: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari.
And sons of Judah: Er, and Onan, and Shelah, and Pharez, and Zarah, (and Er and Onan die in the land of Canaan.) And sons of Pharez are Hezron and Hamul.
And sons of Issachar: Tola, and Phuvah, and Job, and Shimron.
And sons of Zebulun: Sered, and Elon, and Jahleel.
These [are] sons of Leah whom she bare to Jacob in Padan-Aram, and Dinah his daughter; all the persons of his sons and his daughters [are] thirty and three.

And sons of Gad: Ziphion, and Haggi, Shuni, and Ezbon, Eri, and Arodi, and Areli.
And sons of Asher: Jimnah, and Ishuah, and Isui, and Beriah, and Serah their sister. And sons of Beriah: Heber and Malchiel.
These [are] sons of Zilpah, whom Laban gave to Leah his daughter, and she beareth these to Jacob – sixteen persons.

Sons of Rachel, Jacob’s wife: Joseph and Benjamin.
And born to Joseph in the land of Egypt (whom Asenath daughter of Poti-Pherah, priest of On, hath borne to him) [are] Manasseh and Ephraim.
And sons of Benjamin: Belah, and Becher, and Ashbel, Gera, and Naaman, Ehi, and Rosh, Muppim, and Huppim, and Ard.
These [are] sons of Rachel, who were born to Jacob; all the persons [are] fourteen.

And sons of Dan: Hushim.
And sons of Naphtali: Jahzeel, and Guni, and Jezer, and Shillem.
These [are] sons of Bilhah, whom Laban gave to Rachel his daughter; and she beareth these to Jacob – all the persons [are] seven.

All the persons who are coming to Jacob to Egypt, coming out of his thigh, apart from the wives of Jacob’s sons, all the persons [are] sixty and six. And the sons of Joseph who have been born to him in Egypt [are] two persons. All the persons of the house of Jacob who are coming into Egypt [are] seventy.

Exodus 1:5 in the Septuagint, meanwhile, has “seventy-five souls.” Here is how Genesis 46 looks like in the Greek (Lancelot Breton translation); differences with the Hebrew in bold.

And these are the names of the sons of Israel that went into Egypt with their father Jacob—Jacob and his sons. The first-born of Jacob, Ruben.
And the sons of Ruben; Enoch, and Phallus, Asron, and Charmi.
And the sons of Symeon; Jemuel, and Jamin, and Aod, and Achin, and Saar, and Saul, the son of a Chananitish woman.
And the sons of Levi; Gerson, Cath, and Merari.
And the sons of Judas; Er, and Aunan, and Selom, and Phares, and Zara: and Er and Aunan died in the land of Chanaan. And the sons of Phares were Esron, and Jemuel.
And the sons of Issachar; Thola, and Phua, and Asum, and Sambran.
And the sons of Zabulun, Sered, and Allon, and Achoel.
These are the sons of Lea, which she bore to Jacob in Mesopotamia of Syria, and Dina his daughter; all the souls, sons and daughters, thirty-three.

And the sons of Gad; Saphon, and Angis, and Sannis, and Thasoban, and Aedis, and Aroedis, and Areelis.
And the sons of Aser; Jemna, Jessua, and Jeul, and Baria, and Sara their sister. And the sons of Baria; Chobor, and Melchiil.
These are the sons of Zelpha, which Laban gave to his daughter Lea, who bore these to Jacob, sixteen souls.

And the sons of Rachel, the wife of Jacob; Joseph, and Benjamin.
And there were sons born to Joseph in the land of Egypt, whom Aseneth, the daughter of Petephres, priest of Heliopolis, bore to him, even Manasses and Ephraim.
And there were sons born to Manasses, which the Syrian concubine bore to him, even Machir. And Machir begot Galaad.
And the sons of Ephraim, the brother of Manasses; Sutalaam, and Taam. And the sons of Sutalaam; Edom.

And the sons of Benjamin; Bala, and Bochor, and Asbel. And the sons of Bala were Gera, and Noeman, and Anchis, and Ros, and Mamphim. And Gera begot Arad.
These are the sons of Rachel, which she bore to Jacob; all the souls eighteen.

And the sons of Dan; Asom.
And the sons of Nephthalim; Asiel, and Goni, and Issaar, and Sollem.
These are the sons of Balla, whom Laban gave to his daughter Rachel, who bore these to Jacob; all the souls, seven.

And all the souls that came with Jacob into Egypt, who came out of his loins, besides the wives of the sons of Jacob, even all the souls were sixty-six. And the sons of Joseph, who were born to him in the land of Egypt, were nine souls; all the souls of the house of Jacob who came with Joseph into Egypt, were seventy-five souls.
 
I must have been mistaken.

Our canon comes from the Septuagent not our translation. Correct?
 
This is not peculiar to the NABRE, even my old (and very Catholic) Douay-Rheims Bible reads 70 in those verses in Genesis and Exodus, instead of 75 as found in the Greek Septuagint.
 
I must have been mistaken.

Our canon comes from the Septuagent not our translation. Correct?
As far as I know, no Catholic Bible (Old Testament) translation is based solely on the Septuagint or solely on the Hebrew. Instead, they are based on a combination of those and of other translations.
 
This is not peculiar to the NABRE, even my old (and very Catholic) Douay-Rheims Bible reads 70 in those verses in Genesis and Exodus, instead of 75 as found in the Greek Septuagint.
That’s because the Vulgate is based on the Hebrew at this point.
 
As I recall, St Jerome learned Hebrew in order to make the translations for the Vulgate.
 
As I recall, St Jerome learned Hebrew in order to make the translations for the Vulgate.
He did; he studied some Hebrew with a Jewish convert. Just how proficient he really was is still a matter of debate though. He apparently did not know Aramaic: when a request came to him from two bishops asking that Tobit be translated into Latin (something he was hesitant to do at first), he had someone who knew both Aramaic and Hebrew translate the extant Aramaic version of Tobit into Hebrew first, which he then paraphrased into Latin.
 
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